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Both feet of the passer must be "IN or behind the neutral zone when the ball is released" to be a legal forward pass. The passer in this video is very close. Were both feet "in or behind" the NZ? I'd give the passer the benefit of the doubt here. Therefore, the ineligible illegally downfield is a valid call.
The right tackle and right guard committed an illegal chop block on the defensive tackle. Right tackle (with pink socks) delayed his low block as well. Did appear that there might have been an illegal shift by the offense. Nonetheless, the result of the play would stay.
It was a poor block, but an illegal chop block nonetheless. Read Rule 2, section 3, articles 7 and 8. Along with Rule 2-17 article 2-c. If the BBW was to be legal (with no engagement below the waist by another A player), it has to be an immediate move. A 74, In the video, raises his hands before going down on his own accord. You can't let something like this pass. It is a safety issue as well as a dirty play that can injure a player for a long time. Keep in mind we are officiating minors, their safety is paramount.
Great defensive play by the nose it would be a shame to penalize him for something that close by the offense. Me I would let them play but technically the offense was not set.
@@charlesallison6932correct, but if they never get set after breaking the huddle, as happens here, our philosophy is to shut it down as a false start (like the NCAA rule). Then the fumble never happens.
@@charlesallison6932 Under NCAA rules (I KNOW this is being played under Fed) this is the kind of illegal shift that converts to a false start and is shut down. Is there a similar rule in Fed?
That's a clear BSB at the B26. The Holding is there as well. Decline the Hold, enforce the BSB and you will have B 1/10 at the B13. Please Please Please stop saying using the 1990s / 2000s version of legal "blow up" blocks as your metric for BSB in NFHS football. Just because the kid isn't laid out doesn't mean it wasn't a foul. This video is text book NFHS BSB.
Poor management and mechanics by this LJ. If you are calling formation, on who and for what? Too technical. If you are calling substitution, why are you on the field? Use your voice, use good dead ball communication. Nothing good comes from being this robotic. Body language seems to say, I'm unapproachable and don't want to be here.
This is one of those "letter of the law" vs. "intent of the law" situations. Yes, A2 was never above the numbers after the timeout. But we didn't have a situation where the defense was taken off guard because of it. I'm not gonna kill him for throwing it, but that's probably one I keep in my pocket myself.
Looks like the LJ learned a new rule, today, but didn’t learn the purpose of the rule. At MOST tell his coach that he’s supposed to go inside the numbers, between snaps. Defense is lined up on him so there was no advantage gained. Keep the flag in your pocket…And, for heavens sake stay off the field and quit trying to coach the players!
That is just about the furthest back permissible. I would probably suggest to the coach to have his guys move up just a bit, because he's || this close to a flag and his players have zero margin for error. But if they do it exactly like this every play all game, I'll allow it.
It looks like the foul was for not being inside the numbers (9-yard marks) at some point before the snap. Nothing egregious and the receiver was covered by a defender, so no deception. This is one of those rules that by informing the coach and player(s) goes a long way in preventing an unnecessary flag. Communication is a wonderful thing. And, certainly, don't walk into the field. For my crews, I always emphasize "preventive officiating."
The only Illegal Formation I see is the LJ being on the field at the snap. We have all gone to a lot of trouble for several years to get that two yard safety zone. He needs to use it.
he's calling an illegal formation foul because A2 never got inside the numbers (9 yd marks) after the ready for play. Rule 7-2-1. Looks like he's trying to tell the WR to get inside them before the snap. It's a "I know the rules" call. Horrible call.
A couple of things here..I don't like the official being that far out on the field with a snap pending, referee and player safety. I also think this could be and should be a talk to. There isn't any deception, the WR is being defended by a DB that is ready to play at the snap. I would love for the wing official to talk to the coach after this play and let him know the rule without throwing the flag. This type of communication goes a long way with the coaching staff for the rest of the game. Now if there isn't a DB out there ready to play defense then that might force us to throw the flag.
Agree, I'm not coming that far in with a WR to my side. I worked H for a long time. I communicated with my receivers much more than some of my contemporaries who insisted on just patting their leg and saying "my foot's the line". I'm sure not going to flag a kid after I've pointed him to a spot. In fact I'm not sure what he threw the flag for. The LT looks a little shabby but his head appears to be breaking the waist of the snapper. I've seen way worse. And some 80's hair band is missing their stage pants - snakeskin????
Agree. After 15 years as an official, with a large portion being the LJ, I don't like it. He was clearly on the line, so I assume he is claiming deception for not coming to the numbers. If the defense recognizes it and sees him, where is the penalty? I am assuming this was the call since he looked like he was pointing at the 40-yard line. It was a horrible call, if that is the case. I have only called it once, and that time, it was clearly using deception.
100% right. Be an official. Don’t be officious. This is the latter. If the LJ’s profession is being a cop he’s the one who writes tickets for 67 in a 65.
I've made this mistake too. 94 is eligible. 78 is not far enough to warrant a flag. The crew, though took a while, got the call correct. Hats off to them!
I see both being holding fouls. Both are restrictions that prevent a player from making the play. Jersey stretch on both holds and both had an impact on the play.
This is a foul in my opinion. QB buckles at the 39. The defender lowers his target zone and knows that the runner is going down. The defender punishes the QB that is already going down.
@@Anthony-LIC the concern I have is the late slide, seems defender is already committed before the slide happens, doesn't seem to aiming at the head but they do make contact to the head. That being said, first look at full speed looks bad and I would flag it, just saying I see the point others are making.
and to answer the age old "what could the defender do?" question... I would say he could let up, yes he was already committed but he could have let up which he did not...ok, I moving into the should be a flag for sure camp lol.
@@Grape_Academic lol. Yes qb did slide late. But as you brilliantly pointed out. The defender had time to at least try to minimize the contact. He didn’t. He actually dipped his shoulder to punish him These are simple calls that should be consistent. Qb slides you better make an attempt to avoid him. - dont want to hear late slide. If it late it just a tackle. He gets his feet down and starts the slide u have time to try to avoid Qb drops back to pass and u take 2 steps and punish the qb its a flag Glad u came over to camp correct call side Had a call in a jv game. I was lj- my ref was a new guy. Qb gets lit up and he doesnt call it. I throw my flag - defender complains. Say he didnt see he didnt have the ball- i told him stop. He goes ok he just got rid of the ball - i said see u did know he didnt have the ball -
Thats the qb. Once the offensive player starts his slide he is down, so you cant touch him. Especially in the head This is a flag all day long He is giving himself up And before anyone or the coaches want to say- what do you want the defender to do he already started his tackle - i want him to not drive his shoulder into his head coach.
@@tombehling3934 he drives his shoulder into the head and neck area of the qb. The qb head snaps back. the act of lowering his shoulder after the slide is a 2nd action that he could of avoided. He makes now attempt to avoid head and neck area of a defenseless player. This is a flag all day
Not calling that a bsb. Dis he use open hands no, but he also didnt make forceable contact. this is still football - that rule was created to stop people from blowing players up. This hit doesn’t rise to the level of being dangerous. That play is even legal in soccer
Having played when a good hard BSB was not only legal but encouraged, I agree with you. However, you are probably going to be criticized less for flagging this than for letting it go.
@@gdholmfirth i hear you. And i understand your point. Too many officals are concerned too much with being liked. I call the fouls that i think are fouls. Whether i am right or wrong Everyone is reading unless initiated with open hands and stopping there. It also states the the contact mush be forceable. This offensive player make contact with his back U cant tell me a back block is forceable
@@ronquirk6930sorry that is the most ridiculous comment that i heard in a long time Then lets call every time a oerson grabs a jersey a hold. Why else would they put it in the rule book The rules states that unless the contact in made with open hands, its a foul if the contact is forceable - i think u stopped reading after open hands The receiving team player blocked him with his back. He literally just stepped in front of the player to make a block. How can a block initiated with his back be forceable Like i said before i am not calling this The player could of literally lite him up but chose to restrain Ps you will never be a good offical if you think the rule book is the bible Ever grab isnt a hold Every contact with a receiver isnt dpi Every hit with a body part other then the hand when player isnt llooking isnt a bsb
A couple of things, the Referee needs to hustle and get to the goal line in the middle of the field during the return. We need to better communicate the penalty and get the yardage correct. Great call by the umpire.
Definite BSB. Not in love with a hold there. You can see the K players arm around the back of R10 at the R12 yl. They were running along, holding each other, until the return man makes a cut back left.
The LJ needs to officiate the backside of the play. The BJ comes in not seeing the whole play, he guesses and guesses wrong. If you aren't sure just come in and talk to the players...I think this is nothing more than a talk to for either side. Make the punishment fit the crime.
It's the third quarter without a lot of scoring so I'll say it's too late to call it at this point but, the formation by K is not only sloppy but illegal.
I've come to the conclusion that teams must spend very little time practicing punt team now. The formations, particularly early in the season, are horrid.
Warn them on the first one unless it’s egregiously bad. 99% of time it’s gonna be a tack-on foul at the end of the play anyhow. If it’s a blowout I don’t call it.
Did u see that NFHS officals point of emphasis this year is formation - they think officals are letting too much go - they might be correct- but i will tell you a lot of teams dont line up correctly. Game travel time pre game is already 4-5 hours not looking to make it longer because the bad news bears dont know how to line up
@@Anthony-LIC I’ve found if you warn the coach and the player/s, give them a chance to fix, but if they don’t, a flag tends to fix things in a hurry. “Coach, fix it please, you don’t want a turnover or TD called back because of this”. Of course if it’s about receivers covered or not-blade of grass, make it legal if possible.
Just on a side note. Lets get face guarding out of our vocabulary. It’s playing the ball and not playing the ball. Or playing the majority. When a defender isn’t playing the ball, he gets less lead way when it comes to contact but the contact still has to cause a restriction We don’t throw flags because of a little contact
Not a fan of a lot of the “prerequisites” for ruling catch/nocatch. Through the process or two steps.. whatever. Did he keep the ball from hitting the turf? Did he have possession? Good catch and good call!
Two good calls. The first one has a definite jersey pull (restriction) and the second one is clearly a restriction, with a jersey pull, that keeps the defender from moving to the runner.
#1 is tough. Normally I would say that did not rise to the level of a holding foul, but in this case it is exactly at the point of attack. Probably would have thrown the flag. #2 looks more like a block in the back than a hold to me.
Agree on 1. " Holdee" still made the tackle. Did it keep him from tackling earlier? Doubt it. On #2, the block began at the side so I don't think you can have a BIB because he remains engaged. Maybe a jersey tug at the back numeral and then a takedown.