Over here in UK i have a gt silver 991.2 turbo s but i do loveeee the 997.2 turbo s always loved the shape. My turbo has full options inc rear wiper too. painted lower trims look so much nicer too and make car look lower. i put gt3 side skirts on mine and had the ppfd before putting on adds protection to rear arches. i normally dont like an aftermarket alloy on a porsche but those are nice, looks like u got a lovely 997 there
If someone can give me a tip on my current situation I would appreciate it very much. I am currently 18 years old making a little over $30k a year. I have been looking to purchase a car, and call me crazy, but I found a beautiful 2017 porsche 718 cayman, $5k downpayment, $600/month finance. I have just been doing as much research as possible and learning as much as I can about this car before I make the commitment, and I would love to hear the opinion of someone more experienced. Thank you for this helpful video, I made sure to take notes
@@breezeee122 if I were in your position I would absolutely wait. You are so young and that is a major financial burden at that income level and age. Think about the long term I.e. career, education, investing, real estate, etc.
Believe me, I understand your pain. I looked at cars obsessively for years, but ultimately you need to balance life with other important things. Progress in your career, plan for the future, increase your income, and work towards that goal. Good luck!
Beautiful car - I think the 997 Turbo is the perfect 911. Great extras on this example. Dream combo is a Mezger .1T with the 6 speed and the updated .2 rear end 😎
congrats man! just sold my 997.1 manual turbo making over 700hp and already looking to replace it with a 997.2... the 997 turbo might just be the perfect car.
You gotta do what you can yourself. The dealership will rip you off, and you def were ripped off on unnecessary costs and fees. Hope that was an expensive lesson you did learn from?
I have never paid for a dealer service on my 911s! My previous car was under warranty so no cost to me. I am just familiar with standard costs on some of these cars. DIY is an absolute MUST.
This is super relatable. Really appreciate your perspective! I am looking at a 996 C4S that is in excellent condition tomorrow. Might end up being my first Porsche. Owner is motivated to sell for family/practical reasons and it’s a very well maintained example. Fairly certain I can get a good deal, or walk away if he doesn’t budge. It’d be a dream come true if it worked out but trying not to get too attached 😅However, one of my holdups is that I don’t have a garage. I’m sure a lot of Porsche purists would say parking a Porsche outside is sacrilegious, but if the sale works out I plan to cover the car whenever weather is inclement, and generally drive the car often so it isn’t sitting. Plan to buy a house in the next year or two with a garage, but curious generally what your perspective is on this-is there a way to own and drive a Porsche consistently and care for it well even if you don’t have a garage?
@@nathanbrown8487 that’s awesome! It really depends on what you want to do. I personally would never want to store any of my cars outside, especially a Porsche. If there’s one thing I’ve learned in my extensive car searches it’s that there will always be another car! If all factors in your life align and it makes sense to purchase then that’s up to you. I know I tried to convince myself for a long time that I was ready for a Porsche and wanted to buy one, but in hindsight I definitely was not quite there yet. Whatever you decide, I hope it all works out! Cheers
Man objectively good advice, but if I followed this I’ll probably never end up with a 911. Especially homeownership. In this economy? Lol I’m fucked on real estate so I’m just going to buy the 911. From the perspective of not being able to check off all those bullet points = no 911, what do I have to look forward to, to dream of? I’d just be aimlessly working to survive
Thanks. The housing market is tough right now no doubt... like I said it's all about balance and what is important to each individual. Do what makes you happy so long as it doesn't ruin you financially!
997 Turbo Not cheap to maintain. I had the dealer change my plugs and coils, water pump which included of course new coolant, the thermostat, fuel filter, a few cheap coolant rubber bushing o-rings, brake flush and it was $11K. Just replaced front CV boots inner and outer both sides for another $1K. I just changed the oil and filter myself for $110, I think the dealer charges $550. And just smogged & paid DMV for another $1K.
A few big $ items were missed... 1) Property tax. Here in NC it's about $750/yr on a $70k car so that's $1,500. 2) Fuel cost. 3) Opportunity cost. Put that same $70k in a S&P 500 index fund and you'd get a tax deferred return of about 10%/yr, so $7k first year and $7.7k the second year for a total of $14,700 in lost income because that money was tied up in a car instead of being invested. Even if you compare it to the Camry, you'd still have $40k more tied up in the 911 which comes to about $8,400 in lost income.
1) It does not work like that in MN so that does not apply. 2) Fuel cost schmuel cost. 3) Every single dollar spent has an opportunity cost vs investment and that is an assumed compromise. You could also put 70k in the S&P500 and lose 10%. The intent is clearly to demonstrate direct cost of ownership for a used porsche.
@@Stuttgart_Spotlight 1) Lucky you to live in a state with no property tax on vehicles. Wish I did. 2) "Fuel cost schmuel cost." - Love it. Wish my wife agreed. :) 3) Saying that you could also lose 10% if invested doesn't negate the subject of opportunity cost. You could also make more than 10%. For this reason, I gave the example of the average return of the S&P 500 over its lifespan since 1957 which is 10.26%. Investing in a broad market index fund is pretty safe and consistent in the long run. Ignoring this as a cost of ownership is a big mistake. Another way of thinking of this is that most people will finance a car instead of paying cash. Should they ignore the interest on their car loan as a cost of ownership? It certainly costs more to finance a $70k 911 than a $30k Camry.
@@Dando77691 Not denying opportunity cost is a factor, but it is not unique to this car. Buying ANY car or any item presents opportunity cost thus it is not included. Fun fact, during my 2 year ownership of the car the S&P went from 4319 to 4455 or a total of 3.1%.
No way small world! When I was shopping anything good that popped up was sold almost immediately, so when this car came up I did not hesitate! The day it was posted on there I reached out and worked a deal with the seller.
Good video and Greatest all round sports car ever made and best version 911 Turbo ever the 997. Does it have a DCS suspension controller a must have. I like Europipe & as an exhaust option but also Fabspeed muffler bypass considering weight loss, sound & added power. I had a silver with Terrocatta 996 Turbo Stick and now a 997 Turbo Tiptronic meteor grey with rare Sea Blue which I love so much more. Check out my 997 Turbo with 20” Techart video. Cheers
@@Stuttgart_Spotlight the DSC controller is a must have and simple plug and play 10 min install to get the very noticeable 2017+ suspension technology A+ upgrade to help soften the stiff oem suspension specs.
Nice video. Never knew such a thing for that if I get a fix it ticket. Your 997 turbo is low. I got the DSC suspension controller plug and play and it made a big difference to smooth the ride. Cheers
981 Spyder bought new drove 8 years, 35k miles and sold for $10k less than paid. Only routine oil changes and couple sets new tires. 89 Carrera, drove for 2 years, put 10k miles, sold for $15k profit after all expenses. Price of entry is expensive in Porsche world, but cost of ownership is low if you buy the right car.
Very nice. I thought my 997.2 4S was well specced, but the buckets in your car take the honours. Well done. They are great cars and so much more analogue than the 991 onwards cars which I personally love. I've noticed lately also that my 997.2 is starting to get more attention on the road. I think they are just starting to get to that age where you just don't see as many on the road any more.
Great video and very interesting content. I think if you invested in a wearable microphone you would get more traction in your videos (not that it’s what you’re going for, but it’s really the only downside to your videos after I went back and looked at some of your other videos). I only comment because I really think you’re videos are interesting and feel that’s their only negative.
This video is just in time as I’m about to order one as well. Question for you, during the install it looks like you ran the cable inside the pcm area and out the footwell or are you planning on powering the Rennline charger from the center console or the 12v charger in the passenger footwell. Trying to decide if the charger aspect portion is worth or not. Thanks for the help.
I ended up not doing that as the cord provided is too fat and doesn’t fit between the trim panel. I left it in plugged until I find. Better solution. I think a flat ribbon cable style cord would fit through there nicely so it could be plugged into the passenger 12v.
i bought my 991.1 turbo s, i wasnt looking for one but when i saw a jet black metallic with two tone dark red and black + carbon interior with red dial and everything absolutely mint, i instantly bought it
"Used 911" means so much more. You can buy three 997's for the price of one good 964/993. You can buy five or six 996's for that price. LOL. I own a 996 and I know... people don't love it that much but it has been a perfect car for me for 5 years now. They are cheap and will always be cheap, because the production numbers were so huge. 996 and 997 will never go up in value like the air cooled cars just because of that. But that's only a positive thing. Cheers.
Good video thank you for putting it out. I had a 2005 997.1. I purchased four years ago with about 38,000 miles on it and it cost me about $5000 a year over four years maintaining it.
Atention!!!!! Brokies and loosers , while you miserable people are dreaming of a 911 turbo s out here, in the mean time in comfortably sitting in a 992 gt3rs with zero money out of pocket like you broke people out here, im so privileged that I dont even have to pay for coffee or gas, so you guys can keep dreaming about owning one!!! I probably should get going now tho because I've been at the porsche dealership all day and salesmen are starting to give me dirty looks now... specially with coffee and snacks in my hands.
Good stories. Everyone’s first Porsche is just a gateway to another Porsche. Also, once you have one, you recalibrate what you really want versus what you thought you needed. I started with one era, ended up with a totally different era. Cheers, enjoy
