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The channel was established on September 2023 as I felt there was a lack of information around Bromptons when I looked to purchase my first used Brompton. Since then I've published lots of videos and hope certain gaps and questions have started to be answered.
We ride in all terrains and conditions and have a Brompton made for each one! Our M line to tackle all things off road and our P line to take on the toughest of challenges.
I'm just your average rider like most my viewers and love to share my honest opinion with the videos I make, my aim is to own all the different Brompton lines to draw the most fairest of comparisons
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How does doing your own service work invalidate your warranty? It's not an aircraft, it's s bike. Changing brake pads, seats, grips, tires, chains, etc. is all part of owning a bike.
What’s the fuss? Don’t you just buy the cheaper Brompton, get an upgrade kit replacing rear triangle, fork and rims/ wheel and change gear set to Shimano external or 11 speed internal, add disk brakes hydraulic and add a dual chain ring with or without derailleurs. You get a better lighter bike. Save the replaced parts or sell to minimize costs you’ll be converting these to carbon.
I wondered if the weight of the rim (205g) should more be compared to the Brompton rims only (all ranging 300g - 320g) and not the full wheel set which would include the spokes etc. ?
Thank you for the video I have just added 80 mm wheels to my P line I used the link you have for the screws. MY QUESTION IS DO YOU THINK THE screws might be a little bit short? I AN USING two washers on each screw on either side of the bearings. The washers that I chose are very thin. Thank you in advance for your opinion.
Glad you enjoyed the content. I personally think they are perfect size and ain’t had any issues but you could upsize them by 5mm if you find it better.
I've been following Bromton channels for years. Thought they were great bikes. BUT--the more I watched, the more parts and frame failures I witnessed. I am convinced they are not what they claim to be, that being, quality, strong, durable. I won't ever buy one.
I think that’s a very fair comment indeed. I do also think as the product becomes more popular and more people using them for stuff Brompton doesn’t intend more and more issues get seen. Also must be harder to quality control and stay on top of everything. Thanks for the input
I definitely agree as it’s the only logical market I can see it for. However I do worry that Bromptons 10kg maximum load and 110kg on the bike might limit people from enjoying touring 🤷🏻♂️
You could just mount them on the frame but obviously unable to change the one on the mudguard. I use the standard Brompton p line rack with no issues at all.
17:32 i had a problem keeping my gears indexed for a few weeks, then i committed to re-indexing them and locktiting the clamp screw on the derailleur -- and I havent had to adjust them in two months. There are multiple posts about with in r/brompton but most of them get resolved with proper torq specs and a bit of locktite
I had a 3 speed C line for 4 years before I past it down to my daughter. Served me well as a tucker. Fit right in the footwell of my passenger seat. If I were to buy another it would be a 6 speed. My only beef with Brompton is the proprietary parts unfamiliar with most bicycle mechanics. Other than that, great product.
I wish Bromptons have a frame-only DIY offering. I’ve never been satisfied with the stock drivetrains or the plastic fantastic shifters. I converted my Superlight to an external 5 speed w/ H&H 7 speed derailleur. Throwing a Shimano 105 CS-HG700 cassette and a HG DuraAce chain made the shifting so smooth with a non-indexed friction shifter.
6 months to get the gears indexed plus the lacklustre but expensive and hassle ridden service is a deal breaker for me. I was considering a Brompton as it’s a premium product but no longer.
I kept my Superlight and decided to change my wheels to an external cog 5 speed (with the intention of upgrading 7 in the future). I got so sick of the plastic fantastic shifter, I ripped them off and replaced them with trusty friction shifters. Yeah there’s no indexing, but the micro-clicks are so satisfying. I can dump the gears with a single throw without clicking up or down one gear at a time.
@@KennethWuAU there’s a new friction shifter called the UNO which supposedly can shift any derailleur of any size. I actually prefer friction shifters over indexing
I waded in and bought a P line on EBay a month ago. It is pretty much new, yet I paid 70% of the retail price - yep, I’ve had it away with the fairies, it is a peach. The only discernible downside is: I wish I’d done it earlier! My notable faults have been a slipping seat post, which I sorted quickly and the usual gear reindexing. A1 other than that. I gave it a service myself using my old big blue book. It now feels like Pegasus, I love it. 👍🏻
@@Sypossc thanks! I ended up ordering both the GP2 & GP3 as one set will be used on an MTB - good to know both will work and I can play about with them … 👍🏻
@@TheBromptonGuy thanks … as stated I bought both GP2 & 3 (as one set will go to an MTB. Think I will put my biocork GP3 onto the Brompton but swap out the GP2 ‘shorter’ horns and use the GP3 ‘longer’ horns on the MTB 👍🏻
Great video and I agree with the color - I am so jealous. I have a flame laqueur C-Line and these would make a great pair. I am more into sturdiness, and make my bike heavier these days (just got beefy folding pedals). One thing I have to say though. The perfect cockpit is not the GP2 - It's GP1s in combination with SQLabs inner bar ends. I run this setup on two bromptons - one has an awesome wider John Kuosac bar with back sweep. You can reach the brakes when you are on the "hoods" I am soo happy. The perfect cockpit for me anyways
Just got the JK carbon bars and agree they are awesome! Can decide if I need to trim them a little bit really liking the 600mm atm. Will take a look at your setup as I already have a set of GP1 I’ve not used yet.
My old, 2019, 6 speed Superlight has now a Selle Italia, slightly padded, superlight carbon saddle and a titanium, standard shape, black seat post. I had a Carbon Post but it wasn't equaI diameter along its length, so I changed it again. I have also changed much of my standard type brakes to quite similar looking titanium parts. But I have changed the clamps on my mudguards to Carbon and Alu, as they are definitely made from "Heavy Metal" from the Factory, and it gives a difference! On the other hand I have added a Dutch: "Bromptonian" Clamp to the mudguards end, not to damage it during folds or handling! "Bromptonian" specializes in repair- and strengthening parts for a Brompton, as he also makes a terrain model, triple folder for heavy duty use (Without any connection to British Brompton!). As I don't use my bike that much I have kept the standard folding pedal (not to be lost!) but with a titanium center bolt. I don't like to be able to loose a pedal as I did at a time with the - one bolt for the folding hinge in the growth of a wood (I now has nice black wheels with a security bolt in the end, preventing they are to be taken out and - lost, as the original models may easily be totally removed)! On the other hand, my bike is a Brompton so I have two grips made from - leather with a security ring in each end, and a nice "Brompton" printed on them, with large friendly letters, as in "The Hitchhikers Guide" (Don't Panic!). Finn. Denmark
I purchased a P line last week. I just got an email from my local Brompton dealer that they noticed a minor paint blemish on the handlebar stem, reached out to Brompton, and a new stem is on the way. I’m impressed! p.s. My K2 booster skate wheels and parts are on order. Thanks for the in-depth upgrade video!
I did indeed! He was from the Netherlands and had been cycling for around 3 weeks. Some tents and using a website called something like share a shower. Very pleasant dude
It has certainly made me think twice cause I’m sure all t line repairs would be very expensive however maybe more so the case to buy new for the 7 year warranty
They need to check all the fitments of all the moving parts to work out why it failed The welds haven't failed it failed on the Heat zone, its a material fail, on their part its rare, and they offered you a replacement They would have FEA. Modelled it i expect so it should be more then up to the job Glad your ok dude
@@TheBromptonGuy they should have a log of failure, it won't be disclosed, past a certain amount it needs a recall I have no idea if this has happened to anyone else , I suspect it's rare
Interesting. I have a titanium front & rear bits Brompton from 2012; no failures yet. Replaced a pedal and the seat clamp once, other than the usual maintenance.
On the Titanium frame - I have owned two Tiatanium framed bikes and both frames cracked on the down tube. Titanium may be lighter but in my experience, it cracks easilly and more alarming, it can do it with no prior warning. Stick to steel on a Brompton, mine hasn't cracked and being a time triallist, it has had a lot of power put through it. The other thing is, when you are doing a piece to camera, stand still. It is very annoying watching a talking human pendulum.
Thanks for the input and advice my friend, always appreciate it. For this episode I was reading from a teleprompter and felt without a little motion it just looked like reading a script. Maybe need to find my middle ground cause the swaying was an active choice but will keep the motion less in the next teleprompter episode
Having read mixed comments about other riders experience with Brompton re their frame issues, do you think yours was fixed quicker and to your satisfaction because you have a YT channel, and are likely to highlight every step of the process (good & bad, where applicable)?
I had a really bad warranty experience with Brompton recently. Had persistent shifting problems since when I bought it and the (steel) rear triangle by the chain pusher failed totally 9 months after I bought it. There was a braze that hadn't been done properly at all... Brompton were very unhelpful. They said it would take them 6-9 weeks to fix and they would only replace it with a rear triangle in a different colour to the rest of the bike... This was in the UK. Really upset with the service. They were totally unapologetic
Sorry to hear that indeed! On the colour point that is interesting cause I hadn’t considered that if my frame or stem breaks they don’t have the colour way as it was a limited run 🙈
I don't get why Brompton do this, part of the whole Brompton ownership experience is the community. Everyone shares their experience of warranty and customer service - it is self defeating especially when there are cheaper alternatives.
Why would you even think dismantling your bike BEFORE Brompton could inspect it was the right thing to do? Basically you are saying to them "Accept what I have told you is the truth and actually the cause. This is how I want you to repair my bike!". Really??? If you want something repaired by some one else under warranty then DON'T do anything to it. Your error, not Brompton's. You should have just sent them your bike in the condition it was in when it failed. End of. Given you did dismantle your bike prior to them receiving it, they were pretty generous to still repair it and do all the extra work you said they did. I can't but help feel that titanium is not as strong as steel. Given you admit you ride your Brompton hard, maybe you would be better off with an all steel Brompton frame rather than their titanium one. Just a thought.
You know looking back I definitely agree with you! Guess it was more just the “I want this up and running asap” mindset that thought that was the best idea. I deal with warranty claims so should have known better 🤦♂️
I’ve know what you mean (in your spoiler) about the P line. I’ve just acquired one through Ebay, almost new at only 70% of RRP (touch!). Simply put, I love it! My only regret is, I wish I’d got one sooner. Never mind, I’m making up for it. 👍🏻 Also, good to see Brompton were helpful and supportive. But then again, would we really expect anything else from this great company?
I can’t understand why you would expect Brompton to send you just the parts? They have no idea of individual owners skill set in being able to replace major parts, when they promote their bikes to people, who don’t even wear cycling clothing. I’m pleased you received a fantastic resolution from Brompton for this catastrophic failure. The majority of Brompton owners don’t have or want your skills would expect to send the whole bike bike, rightly thinking that if this weld could fail, so could others.
WTF. What does people "who don't even wear cycling clothing" have to do with anything? I have no doubt that there are many out there that "play the part" who couldn't change out their pedals. 🤣
Another brompton rider had a broken a-frame last week. Brompton turned him down for warranty. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sHILUbRJ4rw.html
Shame it happened in the first place and luckily you didn't get injured when it happened as the thought of going fast when it fails is a bit scary, but fair play to Brompton for sorting everything out with no complaints, I doubt that most companies would do the same.
That’s a really bad idea as titanium is not suitable for such a high load safety critical bolt. Brompton use a specially rated high tensile steel bolt. If you don’t understand the engineering of these component’s you shouldn’t really be offering advice.
@@rk-fc1he Reality proves you wrong as i have many titanium bolts on my diverse bikes-never had any issues,even if they had to hold higher loads. Why do you think Airbus and Boing use titanium bolts?I can tell you it’s not for the weight...
I use my bike only for ordinary commuting, so hopefully I don't have anything to worry about. Though it makes me wonder because this is the second person on RU-vid I have seen complaining about a broken rear triangle
Well Dave, I am not surprised you broke your Brompton. Would you be surprised if Thor broke the Earth with his hammer? Would you be surprised if Zeus shattered the rings of Saturn with a lighting bolt? That's the power of TheBromptonGuy. Dave, you've got to be super careful next time. You can move mountains and, upon a glance, change the flow of rivers but the next time you stand up on your pedals, remember to treat those cranks like delicate little daisies. I'm super happy that this story turned out to be a good one.
Did I miss the explanation from Brompton of why it happened = was it a Friday bike or a Monday bike , saying to customers that’s very unusual sounds like a line from the excuse sheet , not knocking Brompton just saying would of liked a bit more explanation, I still remember what that gentleman said to you when you was speaking with him at Kinetics = he thought they would have issues with titanium down the road = I wonder why he said that ? He also mentioned and I tend to agree with him that the triangle he makes being stainless steel is much better and will never have problems.
I have just seen an American here: "I bike unfolded", Brian from Denver, also having a failure on his Brompton back-triangle, but in this case a triangle tube was broken. And as he hadn't wasted his time for obtaining a longer Warrenty, his claim became denied by Brompton. And from his own films he is also a hard riding man, also using it for long rides to work and vacations with a "Chubby Trailer". But I have also lately seen a man riding his Brompton and making jumps on his bike from high positions and I would never try - anything like that! My Brompton is the old type (2019) with the near impossible exchange of the hinge for the triangle, with a lot of work and drilling, so I do hope it last my time, as soon to be 77! Finn. Denmark
