I want to move the boom of my catamaran to a hardtop and get rid of the traveler. The height of the boom above the hardtop is exactly the same as 38.1 and your video clearly showed me how I would rebuild the system. My question is: can I place the blocks at a decent distance from each other on the hardtop and will this make the boom more uncontrollable? Now I have a boom sheet traveler of 4 meters and this is the distance at which the blocks on the hardtop will be located. Thanks in advance for your answer.
You’ve made a good, informative video although your comments on the traveler (“you don’t really need it”) and those who’ve added one “hardly ever use it”….. I respectfully disagree. I have the Performance version, no arch, and installed a traveler. It was a surprisingly easy installation. I love it and use it all the time. The O38.1 was Beneteau’s most successful model- 765 built! No longer being produced, and its replacement is…..well, no comment. TheO38.1 is a terrific design, versatile and comfortable, and when properly modified and set up, is an outstanding blue water-capable sailing vessel.
Thank you for your great comment Kirk. Whether you "need" a traveler depends on how you sail. The fact that you got a performance vesrsion tells everything and obviously would be of far more importance for you and the way you sail but for most of our Southern California customers, many of whom are new to boating and therefore are not performance sailors, they don't need or want the extra complication but if they did, fortunately they have the option to add one and once they have progressed in their learning curve and start racing a bit, then they will often opt for these more performance oriented options. Everyone enjoys boating differently and as long as they are getting out on the water it's a good thing. I heartily agree about the design of the 38.1. Fantastic all round but the initial offering of the 38 was not nearly the boat that the 38,1 became and so it goes with each new Beneteau design ( which they completely change every 5-6 years) they nearly always find a way to make them better than the previous model and if not, the pretty quickly fix the major objections. Fortunately Beneteau are big enough that they have the means and creativity to do so and be nimble in their design changes. Enjoy, enjoy your wonderful boat
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I get the way that the rig works, but my big issue with these designs is twin rudders. Sure they work fine when sailing but I have owned a conventional 45 footer and when manoeuvring it in harbours and having to contend with crosswinds I found the ability to kick the stern of boat sideways with a burst of revs pushing water against the angled rudder a huge advantage, which is completely lost by having no rudder directly behind the prop.
It is a trade between near to perfect steering while you sail on a good heel (though our 38.1 just stops heel with the lee rudder vertical) and manouverability. With our bow thruster we are able to compensate the missing rudder kick.
@@covi9465 So a 38 foot boat needs a bow thruster. I had one on my Jeanneau 45.2 but quickly learned not to rely on it at all because any sort of cross wind defeated it.
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I promise you will never miss it. End boom sheeting means the traveller on top of the arch is of little value as it would only move the boom a foot or two either side of Center
If you have traveller and you just keep it centered then you have the same ease of use as in this configuration but you have more options if you want to and you can have more safety with unintended gibes when your boom is held by traveler on the side.
Actually this design is far better than having a traveler, the ability to center the boom is far easier. The only downside which isn’t any loss is you cant get the boom to windward. Anyways who uses a traveler for unintended jibes? Even as secondary safety it would be minimal on most designs.
Me too at heart. Grew up sailing wooden gaff-riggers in Cape Town so I love traditional boats too. What I find very interesting is that many of the working boats-- fishing boats and pilot boats from the 17 and 1800s had a lot of the elements that m,odern hull and rig designs have...plumb bows, flat, wide transoms, mast back and raked with multiple headsails. But then people started racing them and rules got involved and boats started to be designed to racing rules and everything went pear-shaped for a very long time until the open-class single-handers came along and everything changed back to stable, predictable designs easily handled in any weather by one person and thats what we have today....thank goodness!!
"Detailed" review and you just walk past the mainsheet system with not even a mention that there's no traveller! Also, what about cockpit storage, handholds, backstays, manual bildge pump?? 🤔
Not big on the galley configuration, i.e. cooking when heeled over with no backrest. My preference is still on the older style Beneteau galley config, or current Jeanneau/Catalina. But, to each their own ...
Thank you Mondo for your feedback. 99.9 % of our customers will never need or use a backrest in the galley. Additionally it creates too many compromises. I will note that some form of backrest is not essential. I sailed about 35000 Mi of Bluewater cruising including to Atlantic Crossings with no backrest in the galley. I also know a Jeanneau 49 Sun Odyssey that crossed the Pacific to New Zealand and back with a linear Galley and no backrest......many thousands of miles of offshore cruising so its not an essential item.
@albionparrot5607 keeping in mind that virtually no other dealer in the world takes the time to label every switch breaker or major system at all let-alone taking the the time to make a label....what would you recommend? Maybe some hand carved out of teak with gold-leafed lettering?
Thank you for your interest, the price is there in the description above. $2,750,000. We have just lowered the price from $2,850,000 and that is the reason that I don't mention it in the video as I would have to then re-make the video with the updated price. I usuually put the asking price in the description below the video.
Ugh I like Beneteau Sailboats, but twin Rudders on a Cruising Sailboat is an instant turnoff as an unacceptable Sailing Hazard. Looks like I’m going to have to look for an older model before this idiocy started. Any indication from Beneteau as to when they may be ditching this Twin Rudder Nonsense ? Best Wishes. Bob. ⛵️🌟🌟🌟
Hi Bob. I appreciate your input and feedback. There are many advantages to the two rudder system that I and many naval architects, designers, offshore sailors( racers and long distance cruisers) have recognized and experienced and that outweigh the disadvantages. Having said this however everyone's requirements and expected cruising grounds are different. For example if one were planning to go into regions with lots of ice then twin rudders would not be optimal but then neither is a boat built of fiberglass and I would choose a steel or aluminium boat for that. I would be happy to have a chat with you and illuminate some of the advantages and disadvantages of twin and single rudders. There may be some advantages that you have not thought of. I have sailed these twin rudder boats in many different regions conditions and am a convert. Please feel free to call me on my cell and we can discuss. ( 619) 823-6186
@@fluffi8161 There’s usually more than one pissed off Orca in the attacking Pod sadly. It’s places where there are lots of Crab and Lobster pots that are the real twin rudder hazards though. Best Wishes. Bob.👍⛵️🌟🌟🌟🙂
What about a Water Maker, A/C & Heat, Washer Dryer? Where's the Tender? How big is the engine and generator? Maybe in the 50+ footer? What's the cost as is?
Beneteau selbst gesegelt zu zweit, ist eine sehr gute Segelyacht, den Preis muß man vergessen, können sich halt nicht alle leisten. Übrigens bin sie richtig gesegelt nicht nur zum Kaffee ☕️.
Übrigens das ist eine ganz neue, die wird kaum einer schon gesegelt haben, aber die Größe ist ideal, größer ist Quatsch, oder man hat zuviel Geld. Natürlich gibt es wesentlich größere Segelyachten aber die haben 10 Mann Besatzung und die müssen auch bezahlt werden.
Sorry to say this. Your videography is too shake yfor my liking. For example, go to YMB Yachting channel and see how steady that Turkish man holds his cell phone. Nope, I'm not Turkish, just being awfully frank.
Glad to see a video showing this necessary maintenance. There is a tip I would offer however: The DST style transducers are a bit of a pain to clean properly. If you don’t remove the paddlewheel itself for cleaning, you cannot easily get to any growth on the upper surface of the yoke. At first glance, there doesn’t seem to be a way to remove the pin because it cannot be pushed out like the Speed only transducers. However, the plastic support which forms the outside of the paddlewheel yoke will bend inwards and then it is possible to use a small pair of flush cutters (“side cutters” in the UK, “dikes” in the US), grip the pin and pull it out. You can then clean the paddlewheel and the yoke properly. If you are careful you can paint the recessed yoke area with water based transducer paint (not regular antifouling paint because it is too thick and will gum up the works!), but be careful not to put too much paint because even the correct paint can impede rotation of the paddlewheel.
