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You missed the duck at 40 yards ... I can see that it is the same target. All the holes in the duck are from the short shot not the 40 yard shot. Why lie ?
Sorry man, but I really don't know what you mean. I took one shot at 40 yards and showed the results. I have never and will never lie or fake anything for the camera. I show my real world results, and this test was no different. It was one shot, at 40 yards, and I showed those results
Good video. Yes I know it's a year old. Would like to add to the constriction comment. That is specifically for 2 shot. 2 steel will increase by .010., 3 steel between .007-.008, and 4 steel .005. I'm still doing testing myself.
My calculations say there should be 46 to 48 pellets in that load and they weight almost what a #4 Buckshot weights in lead (Lead #4 Buck is 20.1 grains, TSS T is 18.7 grains each) so with that being said I can tell you that is a really good load there. Those pellets can easiy break a spine etc. Good Job Tyler. That TSS is expensive but when hunting not target shooting they would bring home the bacon.
I really enjoy your videos! Great tests, I dumped a coyote yesterday with a Remington # 3 buck out of my 20 gauge @ 60 yards and thought it was impressive. Keep up the good work!
Glad you are enjoying! I haven't had the best luck with 20ga buckshot in my testing recently, so I'll have to find some of the Remington stuff and see how they do
Wow. Bro that shell is a hard one to guard. I believe the strait rifeling in the choke doesn’t allow the wad to free float which causes things to go left. But either way what ever one chooses to pull the trigger one ain’t going to make it. My $ .02. Thanks for the info and keep it coming.
@danielking5553 The 100 percent technically correct way to do it is to use a gage pin set, but not very many people have those and they can be pretty expensive. The other two easy ways you can do it are number one, use a set of calipers (I like the digital ones) to measure the inside exit diameter of the choke. This will get you very close within a couple thousandths. And number two, you can get a telescoping gauge set from harbor freight for 15 bucks, run it through the choke, and measure the width of it after you pull it through the exit side of the choke with some calipers. Both of those tools can be gotten from harbor freight really cheap and easily and get you extremely close to the exact measurements
The old timer is a dime. Where it stops at and look how close it is to the end of the barrel. Kinda of an idea of how much choke there is. Used before they came out with these screw in chokes. lol.
You have me convinced now. Im going to have to pick up some of those just to see how it works in my setups. Looks like a good general truck/saddle gun load. You never know what you might run across, and that will most likely stop it.
Another great video. The Pattern wasn’t as good as the Modified Choke, but definitely would get the job done. It would definitely work well if you were Deer Hunting with Dogs.
We'll see. I definitely thought about it, but I don't think that choke is technically rated for a shell like this. Plus, loadings like this can sometimes perform weird with too much constriction. Either way, we may try it, but we'll see
Hey there from the Oil Patch! I truly enjoyed your Vlog and appreciated the format of your presentation, with one exception: I would have preferred you to provide a 'Table of Contents' as it were, at the opening of your vlog; what you were going to do, and in what order you were going to do it, which would have provided context to the rest of the video, rather than what is called a 'cold opening', which is what you actually filmed. I'm currently looking for S.D.A. (Self Defense Ammo) for my proposed purchase of the Keltec .410 Pump, which is second on my 'To Purchase List' (the first is the new Beretta Tomcat 30X in .32ACP; I'm a Boomer who is becoming more crippled up, so I'm 'thinking ahead' for my self defense needs: I'll be selling my Taurus G3C and all my 9mm ammo-Federal HST 147gr +P ammo with it, to finance my purchase of the 30X. I LOVE The Taurus, but my hands are getting worse, so time to adapt.), the third is a Panzer AR in 5.7x28, with the fourth being the S&W Pistol in 5.7x28: all of these weapons will be, or should be, shootable for the next decade for me, assuming I make it through the decade (which is up in the air of course). I tell you this because YOUR presentation, more properly the methodology of your testing (Real World Distances for firing, though I would have LOVED for you to continue the father distances in the 5 yard increments until 40yds, though price wise for what that Ammo costs, I DO understand the brevity of distance choices), coupled with your presentation, has proven to me that the Triple Threat by Horny will indeed get the job done. I would add that I wanted to hear from you about Recoil: now, you're a strong, health, young buck, and I'm a crippled up old Geezer, but Recoil is Recoil, though the 'felt recoil' is subjective, so I would have enjoyed hearing your thoughts on the matter for comparison purposes; and perhaps grabbing your Grandad next time out and have him give the ammo a whirl might bring in more Geezer Viewers! Anywho, I've subbed and Shared your video for others on FB and X to see; quality investigative Vlogging needs to be supported, so that's what I'm doing. Thanks for the reliable information and I look forward to seeing what else you have to offer. Cheers from the Oil Patch in Central WY
Thanks, I'm really glad you enjoyed! These shells definitely did pretty well considering they were technically made for handguns. The recoil is very manageable in a shotgun, but would probably be relatively stout in a handgun platform compared to a load of 410 birdshot. Either way, they definitely would get the job done just fine in a defensive scenario
please do this test with different chokes and barrel lenght. is there anyway we can support you? i tried them during a hog hunt and we did not bring any home😢. We went back to 3 inch 00 buckshot.
We are definitely gonna do a more in-depth test with these shells soon. I appreciate you wanting to support the channel! Right now, we only have the super thanks button where you can donate, the channel Instagram, or a mailbox where you can send stuff if you'd like. The info for those are in all of the video descriptions. Of course, nothing is expected, I just appreciate you watching
We are definitely gonna try them through some other chokes, but I honestly don't think that less constriction will help them with the way they are loaded. We did try some of the Federal 3 buck through a mod choke with even more disappointing results, so I guess we'll see what happens
Non plated through a full choke, probably a bit of deformation on the shot going through that much constriction. Try Mod or Imp cyl. 40 yds is a bit much too for buck. Not a fan of buckshot for hunting, main purpose IMO is self defense at close range.
Buckshot at 40 yards is more than good enough for deer. I doubt that less constriction will actually help these shells with how they are loaded. We will try them through some other chokes, but based on how they are loaded and the results we saw when we tested the Federal 3 buck through a mod choke, I doubt we'll see much better unfortunately
Odds are that the bb we were using played a part in that lower velocity. A steel bb would be lighter than these copper ones, so they would have a higher velocity. Plus, this rifle is 20 years old and has a crazy amount of shots through it, so it wouldn't surprise me if the springs are a little worn compared to what they used to be
I generally start with a full choke for regular 00 buck. It has always been a pretty solid starting point in my testing that should give some decent results with most decent quality shells
Yeah, it was definitely a little bit of a doughnut kinda pattern. It does have promise with how circular it is, but we need to try and condense it down a bit and have more pellets in the core
We tried some of the Federal 3 buck through a modified choke with some pretty disappointing results, but I guess you never know what these would do until we try it
It wasn't a perfect pattern, but it was still very usable. It was more than likely that particular shell that performed a little weird more than anything else. I definitely want to test the two chokes side by side, so we'll see how much of a difference they is
695 is the constriction of my full choke in beretta/benelli modil choke in my tri-star shotguns. Must have something to do with the 10 guage bore the 835 has?
Yes, the 835 is over-bored to 10ga spec, so a regular full choke would be roughly .727 constriction. A .710 constriction would be an extra full, and anything .700 or tighter is typically considered a turkey choke for an 835
Haha, I guess it did. I would probably want to test several more shells to see how consistent they are before I would take them out into the woods, but I don't think we're off to a bad start here considering how cheap they are
I want you to know that I really appreciate your approach to these tests. One shot. A certain, well-known RU-vidr likes to shoot 3 shots on the same target to give a better idea of average shot performance, but you've clued into the fact that a hunter is usually taking one shot, not three, and that one shot is the first shot. And that's what you're giving us. I approve. You're doing good work, Matt.
Glad you enjoy! There are definitely times where testing multiple rounds is beneficial, but for tests like these, one round is almost always enough to give you a decent idea if they are decent or not
Having watched at least a dozen of your tests I think about the randomness of shotshells...this shell did okay, but the next six might be all over the place, good and bad...and it honestly applies to even the 'best' shells, there will be a stinker somewhere in the box...the best anyone can do is KNOW where their own gun usually patterns, but each individual pellet truly has a mind of it's own, until it is bumped by another pellet somewhere along it's travels...that said, please keep up the good work...!
Yeah, I definitely want to see how consistent they are as we test them. Like you said, even the expensive shells can do weird things sometimes, so we'll see how these continue to perform
I ordered some of those military buckshot you tested at 1 a throw 4.99 for 5 I decided to go for it . I know you had some pretty good luck with the military ones.
Yeah, they were definitely pretty impressive. I've got a couple more tests in mind that I'd like to do with those soon, so we'll see what else I can get out of them
Yeah, it's definitely pretty tight. The good thing about TSS pellets is that they tend to penetrate pretty well. So inside of 40 yards, I doubt there would be very many if any pellets at all in the meat
We probably will at some point this fall, but don't know when exactly. We do have a waterfowl playlist up on the channel with a bunch of steel patterning on it though
Also, 3” loads are a waste. The same amount of powder in most of them, and all that powder is burned up in the first 18” of barrel length. Anything longer and the shot deforms even more.
That really isn't the case either. With some shells, maybe, but you get a larger payload in a 3" over a 2-3/4" shell. Does it mean you will see better or worse performance, no, but there is absolutely a difference
This is what you get from a young shooter who does not know guns. That should have been either CB or IC. When shooting slugs, 00, 1 buck or #2 buck, you need to be shooting through at least an improved cylinder bore. Also, the smaller the gauge the more open it needs to be. You could get away with a modified on a 12 gauge, but for a 20, it needs to be either improved or cylinder bore. Here is what it’s doing now. That shot is being shoved across itself as it goes through that tight choke. You will get horrible groups doing this. Trust me, I was a gunsmith for years. I see so many videos of what I call kids, trying to test stuff when they don’t know what they are doing. You don’t understand the science behind a choke and what it will do if pushed too much. If you went to a .410, it would do best with a cylinder bore sue to how right it is already. You are basically making videos and showing the world how much you don’t know.
Ha, ok bud, whatever you say. Almost 400 videos in and almost 20 years of shooting on my own time, trust me, I'm not new to this stuff. Yes, I am not as experience in 20ga buckshot in particular, but we had to start somewhere. That is why I started in the same place I would normally start with 12ga. Now that we have seen what the results were, we can make adjustments from here
