@@TheOmens666 What part of the highway code advises on cutting up a vehicle on a roundabout at speed from the incorrect lane for that exit?

Difficult to see the right side edge of the crossing as I zoomed the video in for the RU-vid short but they were on the pavement when the front of our car moved onto the crossing. Definitely a good point though, unless there's an island in the middle like the one further up this road towards Asda.

Though in this instance since the pedestrian was crossing (not waiting), they have priority

@@LeoGB So as far as I'm aware, the changes of road surface and dropped kerbs at where the mam was crossing invite pedestrians to cross but aren't zebra crossings or controlled crossings and therefore the pedestrians shouldn't assume they have priority or a "right to cross" if that makes sense. However, you can see where the situation can get unsafe as pedestrians see the surface and dropped kerbs as a "safe haven". Green cross code still needs to apply from the pedestrians point of view but as drivers we have to be on the lookout for pedestrians in that environment. I took the decision to get my student to stop in this case as the man was in a precarious position and vehicles behind us potentially wouldn't look for him or see him whilst he's already out in the road. As we were moving slowly having only just cleared the zebra crossing it was perfectly safe for us to slow to a stop for him. It's a difficult one on that road, high risk area and that's why the speed limit is 20mph on it. Definitely not a good idea to try and cross from behind a queue or cars or in-between vehicles though.

@@SimonBrownDriving thanks, that's what I was thinking. I had been wondering about this exact crossing, so I'm glad you made a video for it!

Thank you. It's that extra extra awareness needed in situations like this, high risk town centre area with big pedestrianised areas.

Hey I have no idea sorry. There are some good mechanics that can help with this. Hope you get it sorted

Hey there, if you find yourself in the wrong lane on Trench Lock or any junction for that matter and it's not safe to "fix" it safely, keep in the lane you are in and go the incorrect direction. You'll have gone the wrong way but you'll have still done it safely. If you are taking your driving test and are following the sat nav, it will re-direct you. Sometimes adding a few minutes to your journey because you've taken the wrong exit is far safer than trying to cut across a lane late and potentially causing issues to other vehicles. Hope that helps.

@@SimonBrownDriving thanks Simon that’s a massive help trench lock scares the hell out of me how do I manage my nerves on my test especially if the instructor tells me to go from hortonwood to trench lock or on the Easton primary

Thank you. To be honest on that one, not essential as the position of our car and lane choice was already helping others to judge where we were heading. Indicate if you want to be certain and sure though

Thank you 🙏 There are about a dozen driving test routes. Sometimes they alter them because of roadworks, closures, traffic levels, that kind of thing etc. I think I've included quite a lot of them on here but remember they could take you anywhere so it's well worth trying to see as much as you can around Telford in preparation for your test

@@SimonBrownDriving woooow, I'm sooo happy you replied 😊😊Thank very much, I really appreciate all your videos, your efforts, time, and patience used in taking these videos, words are not enough to thank you, I pray God Bless your effort and everything you do🙏🙏

​@@stellaadjei1766Thank you 🙏

Hey there are about a dozen driving test routes. Sometimes they alter them because of roadworks, closures, traffic levels, that kind of thing etc. I think I've included quite a lot of them on here but remember they could take you anywhere so it's well worth trying to see as much as you can around Telford in preparation for your test

Thank you 🙏

Hey there's just the one test centre but there are about a dozen driving test routes. Sometimes they alter them because of roadworks, closures, traffic levels, that kind of thing etc. I think I've included quite a lot of them on here but remember they could take you anywhere so it's well worth trying to see as much as you can around Telford in preparation for your test

Thank you for your support 🙏

So this is a weird one, personally I'd prioritise mirror checks on the left hand side over anything else as you need to know it's safe to move across and no one is coming round the side of you quickly. The reason I indicate when I'm moving across is because I've had instances in the past of vehicles trying to push round to the KFC exit from the middle lane (which is super dangerous) and also vehicles trying to push past me to the left before I've had chance to move across to the left side/lane. I get my students to do it on lessons and in their test scenario because sometimes they delay when they move across to the left slightly, sometimes they linger a bit too much to the right because they are concerned about traffic on the left side of them. The left signal tells others what their intentions are and gives them a bit more time and space to be comfortable to move across to the left. Hope that makes sense

@@SimonBrownDriving Thanks again

@@chaminweerasekera7958 Congratulations on the test pass! Thank you for your kind words 🙏. Safe driving 🚗

That was actually marked as a driver fault (minor) although it certainly was quite a lot of hesitation and not taking the whole roundabout into account.

@@neilwalton7955 Hey Neil, so I think it's unofficially called "slipping the wheel" (it's what I call it anyway haha). As long as the driver maintains full control while it's happening and the examiner feels that it is safe then yes it's fine to do and occasionally quite beneficial actually as well. The steering rigidity of driving tests has altered quite a bit even since I took my driving test (2005) and as long as the examiner is happy the student has full control and safety is adhered to, the rigid steering techniques everyone assumes are needed for a driving test aren't quite as rigid if that makes sense?

As long as there is no loss of control, no fault.

The "overtaking at speed" situation is definitely getting worse on that section. It almost feels unsafe now to be keeping to the speed limit which sounds ridiculous.

@@3l1t3buddy3 Hey there, frustratingly there are no speed change gateway signs as you leave Oakengates in the direction we go on test. I have emailed the council and the appropriate people many times about this (that road has just been shut for a few weeks as well so I hoped they would be sorting signs out there but they haven't). The main thing to bear in mind is that a lot of 20mph zones (in England anyway, let's not talk about Wales haha) usually are in high traffic areas with lots of traffic calming measures in place. For example; mini roundabouts, road humps, pedestrian crossings etc. You also get 20mph zones around high street areas (Wellington, Telford Town Centre, Dawley and Newport high streets) due to the increased risk levels. So around the section of road very close to the high street it's a 20mph speed limit but once you past the roundabout and free from the traffic calming measures we safely assume it's 30mph again. Not ideal I know and it definitely helps to know about the change in advance so you are prepared for it both on driving tests and when you are driving around Telford but the high street section justifies it along with the increase in speed once you are clear of the high street. Hope that makes sense and helps. I will keep emailing the council regarding it because it's unfair. Thanks 🙏

@@jacoblamptey1936 I will do :)

@@waqasahmed3472 🙏🙏

@@jamesevans-lj7lc Hey there, frustratingly there are no speed change gateway signs as you leave Oakengates in the direction we go on test. I have emailed the council and the appropriate people many times about this (that road has just been shut for a few weeks as well so I hoped they would be sorting signs out there but they haven't). The main thing to bear in mind is that a lot of 20mph zones (in England anyway, let's not talk about Wales haha) usually are in high traffic areas with lots of traffic calming measures in place. For example; mini roundabouts, road humps, pedestrian crossings etc. You also get 20mph zones around high street areas (Wellington, Telford Town Centre, Dawley and Newport high streets) due to the increased risk levels. So around the section of road very close to the high street it's a 20mph speed limit but once you past the roundabout and free from the traffic calming measures we safely assume it's 30mph again. Not ideal I know and it definitely helps to know about the change in advance so you are prepared for it both on driving tests and when you are driving around Telford but the high street section justifies it along with the increase in speed once you are clear of the high street. Hope that makes sense and helps. I will keep emailing the council regarding it because it's unfair. Thanks 🙏

So Trench Lock has a 30mph speed limit and you can't exceed that legally until you go past the 50mph speed sign gateway. So no actually we are driving at a perfectly safe and legal speed in this video. Thanks for the comment though 😉

​@@SimonBrownDrivingI really appreciate you, you are one of the best instructors I've seen on RU-vid, I like the way you replied no offence or insult though the person was being a little bit harsh with his/her comment. Thank you very much Simon for all the videos, really helpful, please keep them coming

@@neilwalton7955 I've had it every single day for the 8 years I've been an instructor, it's like the L plates are a target. I've experimented with just L plates and no roof box as well and the experience is largely the same. A lot of the time in this situation we just catch up with them at the next set of traffic lights rendering their dangerous decision completely futile.

@@SimonBrownDriving I was explaining this to my daughter whom I am teaching to drive. We were counting how many seconds ahead they were ahead at the end and how many cars they were in front.

@@neilwalton7955 Thank you, ohhh I'm really sorry to hear that, there are so many that struggle with Trench Lock and just move without thinking. Hope you got it all sorted?

@@Dum_science I feel for that learner driver coming the other way, if they had been in the right hand lane and closer to the van, that could have gone really bad. Also, if you look at the rear camera in the run up to the overtake, the black car that overtakes before the van cuts the van up on a lane change, so I think the van driver saw red and decided they wanted to be back in front... Stupid and dangerous stuff on these roads.

Hey there, if you mean when you're coming out of Hortonwood, the middle lane has always confused me as there are no markings on any of them. But yes I tend to use the left lane to turn left down to Trench Lock Gyratory, middle lane if I was going to Denso (and possibly even the Fallowfield although that one feels ok in either the middle or the right) and then right lane for Whitchurch/Wellington routes. Just be careful though because the lanes on the roundabout itself don't really marry up position wise with the lanes on approach so it's very easy to wander across different lanes accidentally, I see a lot of drivers do it.

Thank you 🙏

Ahh sorry to hear that, worth remembering that the approach to Trench Lock Gyratory roundabout is a 30mph limit no matter which direction you come from so always be ready for it. But yes totally agree that nerves can affect everything on a driving test. You'll nail your next test don't worry!

@@SimonBrownDriving hey Simon. I passed my test today, and your videos were a huge help in navigating the Telford routes. Thank you so much once again!