Have you ever gotten stuck in the snow with this tire set up? I'm considering switching from a 2019 WRX to the new BRZ but I have lots of snow in the winter here..
I got "stuck" once but on a road that was not maintained and I shouldn't have been there. Was able to self-recover in about 15min with just an avalanche shovel. So I don't really count it as being truly stuck. My confidence in the car with this setup has only increased the more I push its limits.
@@aujourduy7795 you won’t regret it. Tires are everything. RWD just requires a little more thought & attention. Being lightweight & having limited slip differential helps immensely. It’s very easy to control & scrub speed. My stopping distances are much shorter than heavier 4x4 / AWD vehicles. For decades, police drove exclusively RWD cars & tires technology wasn’t what is today. If you can’t run studs in your state, I suggest Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 or Michelin Ice-X on 16in or 17in wheels.
I absolutely love it. Only way I’d ever go is if I had two 86 chassis’. One safari & one grip build. The 1.5in ADF lift isn’t expensive & install is easy. The most expensive thing would be new wheels and tires but you could get them used. Also 16in tires are way cheaper than bigger sizes.
I hear you but sometimes you don’t have a choice. Outback on Blizzaks had no problems. Also prepared to get myself unstuck or spend the night in the car. Recovery gear, extra clothes, food, water, power, heat, etc.
It takes practice, you’ll get there! The right shoes can definitely help. I have big but not wide feet & pedals are perfectly spaced for me, can even do this barefoot. I use the ball of my foot on brake pedal, which gives me the most control over pedal pressure. As you can see in the video, there’s not a lot of “heel” involved with my technique but more the side of foot. This is a common method for many drivers. Keep at it :)
Nothing much in this video other than fake sound unplugged. I might have done MTEC clutch spring when this was filmed. Now it has ADF 1.5in lift, Sparco Terra 16in wheels with Nokian Hakkapeliitta 10 Studded Tires, and some other stuff. Full mods listed in more recent videos.
You’re right. 275/70r17 BFG KO2’s. They were good in the snow for a while but not close to performance of proper winter tires. Some Blizzak DM-V2 would be much better in this weather.
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Stock exhaust. Had to use extended exhaust cushions for the back box to clear subframe. Hangers are on lowest level but I think they can come up a bit. They each have 3 or 4 holes for height options. Pretty sure the two rear hangers / cushions could come up a hole or two.
Yikes. very Scary. i'm just to your east in boise area. We get by with 3PMS tires around these parts. I wouldn't have the courage to do the driving you do!
Thanks! Glad you’re enjoying the S2k year-round. That’s what I’m talking about! IMO, lightweight RWD cars with proper winter tires are underrated in the snow. When equipped with limited slip diffs, they are capable of things I didn’t think possible, until recently.
The only thing AWD will do is accelerate you to the speed your tires can't handle. All cars have 4-wheel brakes and 2-wheel steering. I live in the salt belt. We do not have the conditions that justify studded tires. Even winter tires are an overkill most of the time, to be honest. Yet we have the AWD fever with people still complaining that not enough salt has been applied despite you siding around not on the snow/ice but on the aforementioned salt itself. Still, practically everyone dismisses the importance of tires to the degree of me wishing we had annual inspections that would enforce it.
Agree, AWD isn’t everything. I also drive an Outback with new Blizzaks when there is too much snow accumulation on the roads for the BRZ and/or Level 2 Chain Law in Effect on mountain passes. Outback Blizzak combo is excellent, don’t get me wrong. However, when the roads are icy or slippery and ground clearance isn’t an issue, I have much more confidence in the BRZ with studded tires. Braking and/or quickly changing directions is far superior in the lightweight car. I will admit, the story likely would be different if the Outback also had Nokian Studded tires… Also, I’ve lived in areas where road salt was everywhere and owned a 4Runner that suffered from salt exposure. It’s the worst! Krown Rust Control is the best solution I’ve found for salt protection.
@@ThePedalDance I'll look into Krown. Got a BRZ and STI to protect. Xterra is prectically hopless now, but I'll try to salvage what I can there. Can't give up on a manual truck )))
Love the garage! Nice lineup. I always have an eye out for a manual 3rd gen 4Runner. Krown is about $150 per vehicle and they recommend having it sprayed once per year. After a few years of application, the car is basically rustproof. Canadian company, so they definitely know about rust protection. They are mostly located in the Midwest, Canada, and some of New England.
Remember, if you can't get through the powder in a RWD because your fron wheels are getting stuck, try the same route in reverse (i.e. FWD with RW steering).
Cannot recommend it highly enough! Edit: As I’m sure you know, one benefit of cars like Miata & BRZ is inexpensive consumables. That’s one reason I dropped to a 16” wheel. Years ago, I had a 1st gen BRZ & bought used set of Cooper winter tires on 16x7 Legacy GT wheels for $200 mounted & balanced. I don’t necessarily recommend buying used tires. However, new Blizzak and Michelin X-Ice Snow are available for roughly $500 in 205/50r16 or 195/60r16. Personally I’d do 195/60r16 on OEM mx5 wheels. Perhaps 2001-2003 Miata 16x6.5" 5 Spoke Twist.
Ah you're the guy running lifted Icy Metallic BRZ with Sparco wheels! Definitely inspiration to lift my own, but we barely have any snow in Europe nowadays...
If equipped with proper winter tires, AWD will be better in Snow & Ice. However, tires play a critical role in car control during winter weather. Having driven many AWD cars on All Seasons in these same conditions, I can confidently say that this RWD car with studded tires outperforms AWD with All Seasons in almost every way: Braking performance, turning / lateral grip, and the ability to quickly change directions (moose test). AWD Subaru on All Seasons may be able to move forward but it cannot stop & turn as quickly.
It’s steep. Not San Francisco steep, but enough that if I wasn’t on proper winter tires I would not be able to stop and start moving again. EDIT: if I wasn’t on proper tires I’d be at the bottom of the hill stuck.
People dont believe me when I say Nokians are the best snow tires hands down. They 1000% blow Blizzaks out of the water in grip, handling, ride and anything else you can think of. Ill definitely be buying a set next season.
@@ThePedalDancethey are amazing. My first experience with them was about 3-4 years ago when I was working for a Lexus dealer in Service and had to deliver a customers LX570 back to them in Park City in a snowstorm. Ive never had such confidence in a set of tires before. Absolutely amazing.
Thinking about buying an LX450 triple locked or LX470 (maybe GX470) instead of another 4Runner. Need something big and capable to cover long distances out west. Used prices aren’t bad probably because they don’t have a Land Cruiser badge.
