Also, do you have any idea how frustrating ranking up will be if you’re only 14% of your team

nah do a battlefront, 20 v 20 (10, DPS, 9 support, 1 tank)

• PASSIVE: _ -25 Health (275 HP) _ +5% Lifesteal (40% LS) _ 25% Quieter Footsteps • WRAITHFORM: _ Move Speed +10% (60% Faster) • SHADOW STEP: _ 20% Quieter _ 10% Initially Quicker (1.035 + 0.13 Seconds) _ +5 Max Range (40 Meters) • DEATH BLOSSOM: _ +130 Points Required (2000 Points) _ +Extra damage against tanks _ More (I don't know) • NEW-AMMO: _ HEAVY ROUNDS- - 50% Extra Damage (162-54) - +65% Extra Armor Damage (178.2-59.4) - +0.304 Seconds Slower (0.800) - 10% More Spread (6.6) - 8 Extra Meters Before Falloff (18-28) - 4 Second Ammo Change Cooldown - 1 Second To Complete Ammo Change _ LIGHT ROUNDS- - Would be similar to Reaper's ammo now but would be designed to better face smaller targets with less health, such as Mc Cree. - 4 Second Ammo Change Cooldown - 1 Second To Complete Ammo Change This is my idea, though it would require a lot, and I mean a lot of fine tuning.

Freedo is the ultimate person who sucks off blizzard even recently he tried to fight flats, Sbv, Samdito, and others vs 5v5 is “healthy” vs them saying it needs a change

I agree that fixing the heros is the way to go and that trying things blindly isn’t going to work but comparing the game to a nursery rhyme doesn’t prove anything, and every other point didn’t feel like “deducing” but just simple expressions of opinion.

I don't know man, it seems to me Flat want to abuse his status as a Creator to suggest some changes. Soem heroes that got rework are under influence by them back in the day

I'm sure we'll get 7v7 in Overwatch 3 with pve

i think i deserve to be in thise list so just make a part 2 :D

So I definitely am a bit of a sweaty player, but I feel like only the Sombra, Doom and first Rein were making sweaty plays imo. When I play tank Winton, I feel a responsibility to focus the widow because often my team can't or won't deal with them. I also don't think chasing down a low HP target is a sweaty play, especially given that they were leading at the time. I feel like thats just good follow through. The Doom definitely was chasing you across the map tho, that was a sweaty play if I've ever seen one. He was super low HP for most of that fight but he still was so determined to get you specifically, even when there were other targets that should've been the priority lol Solo ulting somone is almost never a good play unless there is a specific reason, like confirming a kill in OT or to prevent stalling, or focusing say a lucio to prevent beat, for example. Those solo ults from the enemy players were definitely all sweaty plays. Its hard to say if the second Rein just panic-ulted, but in any case, he was trading ult for ult (even if it didn't work), so I feel like that wasnt so much sweaty as just a silly overcommitment. Again, maybe I'm just biased because I am a bit of a sweaty player myself, but those are my thoughts. SOLO ULT COUNT: 6 (Doom, Sombra, Ashe, Rein, Genji, Rein)

If you can tell me how many solo ults are in this video I will pin your comment

I do really enjoy the map visually, and personally it's my preferred map of the two we have RN. Hanaoka feels far too linear for my taste. Tho tbh i still don't think clash is a very enjoyable mode. Even tho most rounds end up having a close score, it feels forced due to the mode design, rather than organic because of good matchmaking. It shouldn't be possible for a team to be attacking on the enemy's side of the map the whole round, and still end with a score of 5-4 or Hog forbid lose 4-5. The whole mode feels as tho ot lacks the strategy and depth of other core modes, and often just feels like a team DM. Sombra and Ashe btw :)

If you can tell me which two heros solo ult each other in this video I will pin your comment

Honestly I think at the very least they should have stuck to their guns with the phone number verification system. That way they can actually punish people who broke the rules whether that be cheats or ximming, instead of allowing them to just create another account willy-nilly. It's 1750 wins BTW

It has been a while since I commented here. I agree on the timestamp titles, This does feel like gatekeeping in a way. As somone who has over 3,500 hundred hours+ and the unrelenting hero title I meet the requirments in both hours and games played. I am currently working on the expert competetor title. As for cheeting I feel like its getting pretty bad, I don't think putting a limit on who can use streamer mode will change that cheaters will exist. This will just gatekeep who can use streamer mode like some sort of vip class only instead of paying for access a person would have to play an obserd amount of hours or games to access it. Excellent video keep it up.

Yet another dumb change you can thank Flats for. He's the one who championed for this.

If you can tell me if it's 1750 hour played or 1750 games played to unlock the feature I will pin your comment

I personally feel like all of 6v6s problems were fixable. Unlike these other formats.

Open queue solves all of our problems it’s just up to us to choose other roles

I think the talk of 7v7 and 6v6 is trying to solve a psychology problem with balance. The only reason 5v5 feels bad to some people is everyone pressures the one tank and there isn't blame to go around when that one tank performs poorly. It's not that the tanks necessarily feel too strong from a gameplay perspective which would be a balancing issue...it's a social issue. I do feel like 7v7 would not be the solution. The only reason that exists is because of the queue time argument that 6v6 brings up. Personally, I feel like 5v5 FEELS better to play than 6v6 did. I feel like there's more space and the time to kill and level of sustain for all roles has gone up. Balence-wise, it FEELS good and it did solve the queue problems that 6v6 had...we just have to solve the social problem of that role being put onto one person instead of split between two.

7v7 aint a bad idea, i immediately think maps need an additional lane, but they should probably do that regardless

Is the most trash game mode ever made, is literally making me rage quit. Who is the mf, the sadist who through is a good thing to force a game mode like this...im done with this trash game I can't even chose what I can play.

I’m good, 7v7 isn’t for me I like 6v6 with my tank duo thank you very much

I don't like that this is only at the end of the season. The end of the season coincides with when midterms are for most people in post-secondary, these people are also more likely to spend money on the game as well. So it doesn't really make sense with the timing. I like your idea that it should be every weekend.

get rid of that supid report system ,, overwatch players are too pussy just play the game and mute who u dont like simple ,,,

I like the idea

I dislike that they are tying even more rewards to comp. In my honest opinion, I think having any kind of reward attached to comp undermines the integrity of the mode itself. They should have an unranked mode with "comp rules", let weapon variants/signatures be earnable in unranked, and let comp be for EXCLUSIVELY for people who want to win matches and increase rank and NOTHING ELSE.

so i dont get why they desined it that way that you have 3 diffrent stages of that tag and than the 4th is eh its number 1 but there is a two in front of it :D , why didnt they change the couler is it becasue they would run out of options to fast ? who knows .... and yeah i think most peopel dont realy care about them becasue of the small veriety at least i dont and they should just give peopel more rewards that other peopel could see all the time like the gold weopens but just a bit beater like in one game you can buy special skins for your favriot carakter, they are mostly just epic skins but if you do it right they could look cool if you just give them a littel speacial trade like the overwatch leage skins have

Music was a bit outta wack at the end .. If you can tell me how many comp points you get per game i will pin your comment.

Unironically the most harmful suggestion I’ve ever heard given to the devs. In a lot of ways, 7v7 will just devolve into what we have now. Giga buffed tanks and supports to compensate for the additional dps. Flats is losing the plot quickly

If dps players cared about queue times they would play other roles today. I’m not convinced enough dps players would use the autofill feature to make a difference. Instead it would just be a 4 minute queue to get placed on tank.

Its such a shit thing cause i literally just got stomped on literally 0-3 on the point and got zero kills yet they put reversal on. How the fuck does that make sense? We were not favored yet got raped in game then blizzard decides to rape my fucking ass in ranking

i think damage and support have about the same pick rates most the time, but right now I think support is more popular going off my support queues (im the same rank on both roles)

Geoff literally had a post saying that 7v7 is too big, 5v5 is too small and 6v6 is just right, i really want to know what changed that philosophy besides aaron becoming game director

Its because nobody has a clear answer of how to make DPS players play other roles. So we don't have to go back to this 15-25m DPS queue times that even the middling ranks were starting to experience. I think to have anything but 5v5 work in regards to player population ratios, a massive rework of the roles and game will have to happen. Elsewise they'll have to add autofill like every other role based game forcing DPS players to play tank when one is needed.

I still want a playtest

eh, I think 7v7 wouldn't be nearly as bad as 5v5 where one role gets to have all the CC, Health and everyone has to suffer their wrath Back in the early days of OW1 being out, before role que it was common to have quickplay matches that were 1 tank 4 DPS and 1 healer. These matches would a blast as it made flanking less risky and damage felt impactful since it wasn't instantly healed away. Additionally I would prefer less impact because it takes stress out of the game casually. I wanna play the game to relax, not have "Support diff" yelled me all game because I'm having an off day and costing us the game. Also I don't think 3 DPS would just delete everything in the game since in 7v7 each tank would have to protect 2.5 players instead of 4 so the ability to play around your team is made even easier.

chapters spell noimpact

i genuinely belive 7v7 is a psyop diversion to discredit 6v6 and divide the people who support it

i would love to see play of the game where two people are both featured in the highlight into (maybe each hero gets 2-3 dual highlight intros that are compatible with every other) and it will show both peoples names and their into next to eachother and only show one perspective. like if a zarya uses grav and then a reaper ults and gets 3 kills instead of it just being a reaper play, zar also gets the highlight recognition but it isnt her perspective

I actually hate how many people are entertaining the idea of 7v7. Now that’s 14 ppl in a match, but the big problem with all formats we have tried is balancing the power in each role. So why would we make one role have more players on it?? I think 2-2-2 role lock is the simplest way to balance the power between each role.

Lately for me, if someone insta locks sombra it’s an instant L. Gold players just can’t get the value out of her that higher tier ones do unless they’re a Smurf.

what about one of each supports and 1 dps vs one of each support and a dps

Jeff had his problems when it came to the balance and late hero design philosophy, but he knew how to make a great foundation to a game that's why ow1 was so good at launch, so just this one time we should listen to Papa Jeff.

I personally agree that they should explore options to fix the queue time Problems in 6v6 first. But i think it's still fine to explore other ideas like 7v7, the devs shouldn't invest resources into it atm (and it didn't sound like they are considering it). But i don't see a problem with the community exploring this idea. I think going from 6v6 to 7v7 would be a smaller change than going from 6v6 to 5v5. Tanks always had more impact and DPS almost always had the least impact on the game. Therefor i think that adding one more DPS would make less of an difference than taking away one Tank. 7v7 would feel more simular to 6v6 than 5v5 does. But i'm still not sold on the 7v7 idea, i think it would be to crowded and chaotic, especially for supports. And there is still a big difference in the amount of Tank and Support players, so even if it fixes the DPS side of the queue time problem, support would just become the new bottleneck. It would be better, but it wouldn't completly fix the issue. And of course, the more players there are the less impact each individual player has on the game. I think it would be worthwhile to test things like a flex role first. My idea for 6v6 would be to try out to replace the DPS role with a flex role and make the game 1 tank / 3 flex / 2 support. Tanks and supports are locked to their role, Flex can pick from tank and dps. That would be something inbetween of role and open queue, it would open up some more team compositions, but you would still have the consistancy of knowing that you're always going to have at least 1 tank and 2 supports in ranked. You could also release some Tanks that feel more like DPS characters to encourage DPS players to flex to tank. Zarya historically would be an example for this, but i think mauga, if he gets changed to fit 6v6, could also appeal to DPS players. You are going to run into triple DPS comps in that system, but back in 6v6 those comps still felt fine to play. Usually games became frustrating with 4+ dps (in my subjective experience at least). But i think ultimatly experimenting is a very important part, it's the same with science. Talking about things theoretically is important and very fun, but you need to run experiments to validify your ideas. Every idea has the potential to surprise you and we should always be careful about dismissing untested ideas to fast. If you start running experiments you will almost always start to find variables and aspects that you couldn't have possibly thought about before. I could see a timeline in which we try 7v7 and it feels great to play. I don't think it's likely but i wouldn't rule out the possibility that i get proven wrong in that regard.

0:09 This isnt a "potential" it's a guaranteed issue. we know what 6v6 would look like. Exactly like ow1 with 25+ min DPS queues. They showed us the numbers rn. most roles have a similar and crucially short queue time adding a second tank will very obviously half queue times for tanks as there is now a second slot for them to fill. But double times for support and DPS. We saw for years in ow1 these queue time issues and i genuinely dont get how people think this wont be an issue if they bring 6v6 back. Now if ur argument was that the longer queue times are worth it cause 6v6 will be better for the game that is an argument that while i disagree with i think is an actual argument u can have.

true gamers want 12v12

I think we need to look less at format on the surface and get more into the skill expression the formats with the inclusion of more players and how the devs could make it enjoyable. Also differences in role queue times

Nah 5v5 6v6 7v7 why hasn’t anyone seen the clear answer. 5.5v5.5. Now you might be thinking “How would that work? How is there half a player?” The answer is quite simple actually. You make a role that just has a single Zarya bubble as their abilities. But oh how is that fun? You make them lucio on crack. Just insanely fast maybe even something like lucios April fools boop that moves them. Wall riding the whole thing. You also make them small and very little health. They can only melee and their ult is that they drag the other .5 into a boxing ring and then you box. The winner comes back to life while the loser immediately gets sent back to spawn. No 10 second wait just instantly back to spawn.

Optimal gameplay is actually 3 vs 3 where everyone has huge skill expression, and every role can be equally powerful in its own aspect. Edit: also lets the devs achieve their goal of making counter-swapping meta, while also fixing lower queue time issues.

Why not do all