There are two types of church followers. One is blissfully ignorant of a conspiracy of deceit. The other smells fish and manure but doesn't care enough to confront it.

Interesting views. Don't agree with either side. I am a little disturbed at how it seems that White thinks he's always correct....no matter if he is, or not.

There is no certainty in the book known as (The Legacy Standard Bible). One of many reasons is the use of the word (you) which in such a book is use for one person as well as to more than one person. In the book of the LORD'S holy scriptures however, we know with certainty the difference between one person and two or more people. One person is known by these pure words: (thee, thou, thine, thyself); and two or more persons are known by these pure words: (you, your, ye, yourselves). Consider the words in John 14 lines 8 and 9. Read these two precept lines in both books. The LSB is confusion. In the true book of the Lord, we know with certainty, the word (you) is spoken by the Lord to both Philip and the disciples. The word (thou) is spoken by the Lord to Philip alone: John 14:8-9 8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

My conclusion on the (Dedicatory), the letter to the king, found before the book of Genesis. Didst thou ever read the so call (dedicatory) letter to the king found before the book of Genesis in the book many call the (King James Bible)? Read it and know with certainty the letter itself doth condemn the chronicles of fleshly men which beguile multitudes who believe the king James (commissioned 39 scholars the task which took 7 years, over the Gentile years from 1604 to 1611 to translate out of the so called (original tongues) of Greek, Syriac, Aramaic, and Hebrew into the language of that day. Read that letter carefully and come to know such chronicles of fleshly man are a lie and those that put their trust in man curse themselves. Jeremiah 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. Who ever wrote that letter had nothing to do with changing God's pure words which the Lord himself pronounced with his lips and perfectly preserved in the book of the LORD'S holy scriptures which Jesus alone is the only author and which great companies throughout all generations published a perfect copy so every person in every generation who will cry after knowledge can know with certainty the words of truth. The author of that letter called the king, who is one person, (you) and (your), and we know that one person in all 66 books set in perfect order from Genesis through Revelation is never called (you) nor (your). One person is always called using these words:(thee, thou, thine, thyself). Know and understand the words as read in the book of the LORD'S holy scriptures: (thee, thou, thine, self, thyself) are used for a single person. And these words are used for more than one person: (you), (your), (ye), (selves), (yourselves). Understandest thou what thou readest? A great example of this is when Philip who certainly read or heard Deuteronomy 6 line 4, came with the disciples and he asked Jesus, calling Jesus (Lord), to shew him and the disciples the Father, not knowing Jesus is the Father. The Lord Jesus rebuked Philip using the pure word (thou) to admonish Philip and the Lord spake the word (you) to speak to all the disciples: John 14: [8] Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. [9] Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? (Take heed also of the Lord's warning to the Jews when Jesus spake the word (ye), for the Jews who were more than one person, and the Jews spake the word (thou) to Jesus, asking him (who art thou); and yet they did not understanding that Jesus is the Father): John 8: [24] I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. [25] Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. [26] I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. [27] They understood not that he spake to them of the Father. (John 14:8,9 and John 8:24 to 27 is a fulfillment of Job's witness and warning to those that do not know God to be a person and not persons): Job 13: [6] Hear now my reasoning, and hearken to the pleadings of my lips. [7] Will ye speak wickedly for God? and talk deceitfully for him? [8] Will ye accept his person? will ye contend for God? [9] Is it good that he should search you out? or as one man mocketh another, do ye so mock him? [10] He will surely reprove you, if ye do secretly accept persons. Job 42: [7] And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath. John 4: [24] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (Consider the following precepts with these words for one person (thee, thou, thine, self, thyself)): Psalm 50: [21] These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes. [22] Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver. [23] Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me: and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I shew the salvation of God. 2 Chronicles 1: [9] Now, O LORD God, let thy promise unto David my father be established: for thou hast made me king over a people like the dust of the earth in multitude. [10] Give me now wisdom and knowledge, that I may go out and come in before this people: for who can judge this thy people, that is so great? [11] And God said to Solomon, Because this was in thine heart, and thou hast not asked riches, wealth, or honour, nor the life of thine enemies, neither yet hast asked long life; but hast asked wisdom and knowledge for thyself, that thou mayest judge my people, over whom I have made thee king: [12] Wisdom and knowledge is granted unto thee; and I will give thee riches, and wealth, and honour, such as none of the kings have had that have been before thee, neither shall there any after thee have the like. Philemon 1: [19] I Paul have written it with mine own hand, I will repay it: albeit I do not say to thee how thou owest unto me even thine own self besides. (And consider these statutes with the words for more than one person (ye, your, you, selves, yourselves)): 2 Corinthians 13: [5] Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? Leviticus 18: [30] Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God. (God is not the author of confusion and his book is perfect and all other books, when examined and the spirits are tried, are found to condemn themselves): 1 John 4: [1] Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Proverbs 22: [20] Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge, [21] That I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth; that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto thee? Ecclesiastes 12: [11] The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd. John 10: [14] I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. [27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: John 10: [5] And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. 1 Corinthians 14: [33] For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Hebrews 12: [2] Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Acts 19: [19] Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. [20] So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed. Psalm 89: [34] My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. Matthew 5: [18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Isaiah 34: [16] Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them. [17] And he hath cast the lot for them, and his hand hath divided it unto them by line: they shall possess it for ever, from generation to generation shall they dwell therein. John 3: [3] Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Luke 8: [11] Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. 1 Peter 1: [23] Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. [24] For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: [25] But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you. James 1: [18] Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. [21] Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. 1 Timothy 6: [3] If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; [4] He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, [5] Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

My conclusion on the (Dedicatory), the letter to the king, found before the book of Genesis. Didst thou ever read the so call (dedicatory) letter to the king found before the book of Genesis in the book many call the (King James Bible)? Read it and know with certainty the letter itself doth condemn the chronicles of fleshly men which beguile multitudes who believe the king James (commissioned 39 scholars the task which took 7 years, over the Gentile years from 1604 to 1611 to translate out of the so called (original tongues) of Greek, Syriac, Aramaic, and Hebrew into the language of that day. Read that letter carefully and come to know such chronicles of fleshly man are a lie and those that put their trust in man curse themselves. Jeremiah 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. Who ever wrote that letter had nothing to do with changing God's pure words which the Lord himself pronounced with his lips and perfectly preserved in the book of the LORD'S holy scriptures which Jesus alone is the only author and which great companies throughout all generations published a perfect copy so every person in every generation who will cry after knowledge can know with certainty the words of truth. The author of that letter called the king, who is one person, (you) and (your), and we know that one person in all 66 books set in perfect order from Genesis through Revelation is never called (you) nor (your). One person is always called using these words:(thee, thou, thine, thyself). Know and understand the words as read in the book of the LORD'S holy scriptures: (thee, thou, thine, self, thyself) are used for a single person. And these words are used for more than one person: (you), (your), (ye), (selves), (yourselves). Understandest thou what thou readest? A great example of this is when Philip who certainly read or heard Deuteronomy 6 line 4, came with the disciples and he asked Jesus, calling Jesus (Lord), to shew him and the disciples the Father, not knowing Jesus is the Father. The Lord Jesus rebuked Philip using the pure word (thou) to admonish Philip and the Lord spake the word (you) to speak to all the disciples: John 14: [8] Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. [9] Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? (Take heed also of the Lord's warning to the Jews when Jesus spake the word (ye), for the Jews who were more than one person, and the Jews spake the word (thou) to Jesus, asking him (who art thou); and yet they did not understanding that Jesus is the Father): John 8: [24] I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. [25] Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. [26] I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. [27] They understood not that he spake to them of the Father. (John 14:8,9 and John 8:24 to 27 is a fulfillment of Job's witness and warning to those that do not know God to be a person and not persons): Job 13: [6] Hear now my reasoning, and hearken to the pleadings of my lips. [7] Will ye speak wickedly for God? and talk deceitfully for him? [8] Will ye accept his person? will ye contend for God? [9] Is it good that he should search you out? or as one man mocketh another, do ye so mock him? [10] He will surely reprove you, if ye do secretly accept persons. Job 42: [7] And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath. John 4: [24] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (Consider the following precepts with these words for one person (thee, thou, thine, self, thyself)): Psalm 50: [21] These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes. [22] Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver. [23] Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me: and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I shew the salvation of God. 2 Chronicles 1: [9] Now, O LORD God, let thy promise unto David my father be established: for thou hast made me king over a people like the dust of the earth in multitude. [10] Give me now wisdom and knowledge, that I may go out and come in before this people: for who can judge this thy people, that is so great? [11] And God said to Solomon, Because this was in thine heart, and thou hast not asked riches, wealth, or honour, nor the life of thine enemies, neither yet hast asked long life; but hast asked wisdom and knowledge for thyself, that thou mayest judge my people, over whom I have made thee king: [12] Wisdom and knowledge is granted unto thee; and I will give thee riches, and wealth, and honour, such as none of the kings have had that have been before thee, neither shall there any after thee have the like. Philemon 1: [19] I Paul have written it with mine own hand, I will repay it: albeit I do not say to thee how thou owest unto me even thine own self besides. (And consider these statutes with the words for more than one person (ye, your, you, selves, yourselves)): 2 Corinthians 13: [5] Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? Leviticus 18: [30] Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God. (God is not the author of confusion and his book is perfect and all other books, when examined and the spirits are tried, are found to condemn themselves): 1 John 4: [1] Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Proverbs 22: [20] Have not I written to thee excellent things in counsels and knowledge, [21] That I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth; that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto thee? Ecclesiastes 12: [11] The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd. John 10: [14] I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. [27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: John 10: [5] And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. 1 Corinthians 14: [33] For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Hebrews 12: [2] Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Acts 19: [19] Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. [20] So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed. Psalm 89: [34] My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. Matthew 5: [18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Isaiah 34: [16] Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them. [17] And he hath cast the lot for them, and his hand hath divided it unto them by line: they shall possess it for ever, from generation to generation shall they dwell therein. John 3: [3] Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Luke 8: [11] Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. 1 Peter 1: [23] Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. [24] For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: [25] But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you. James 1: [18] Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. [21] Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. 1 Timothy 6: [3] If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; [4] He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, [5] Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

I heard "Sigma" and that woke me up

It's hard to debate when the Christian can't agree on the facts.

Why the pejorative Campbellite in the above statement? Did Dr. Jacoby insult Dr. Ross anytime during this debate?

God is Dead was cover of Time Magazine in 1966.

GIRL I saw u at the Chick-fil-A line and had to follow u 😍 Jesus saves!! Period 🙌🏽🎉✝️

How a *calvinist* should approach a person with *his* “gospel”: "Hi! I have good news for you! I don't know if God loves you, the most likely is that He hates you. I also don't know if He died for you on the cross, only a very few were chosen… But Listen!" Sad but true! This is the false gospel that is being preached in many churches. We need urgently to bring back the *powerful, simple* and *true gospel* summarized in *John 3:16.* If God says that He died for everyone, *it means that He died for EVERYONE:* *Isaiah 53:6* ; *John 1:29* ; *John 3:16,17* ; *John 4:42* ; *2 Corinthians 5:14,15* ; *Romans 5:18* ; *1 Timothy 2:6* ; *1 Timothy 4:10,11* ; *Titus **2:11* ; *1 John 2:2* ; *John 12:47* ; *1 John 4:14* ; *Hebrews 2:9* …etc Let's be very careful, let's not be found liars.

An excerpt from the Translators to the Readers: Truly (good Christian Reader) we never thought from the beginning, that we should need to make a new Translation, nor yet to make of a bad one a good one, (for then the imputation of Sixtus had been true in some sort, that our people had been fed with gall of Dragons instead of wine, with whey instead of milk:) but to make a good one better, or out of many good ones, *one principal good one*, not justly to be excepted against; that hath been our endeavor, that our mark. To that purpose there were many chosen, that were greater in other men's eyes than in their own, and that sought the truth rather than their own praise.

This solidifies the foolishness of people and traditions. So completely blinded to any truth at all. I also noticed him saying God would keep His Word in the original language. Last time I checked KJV is in English which did not exist at that time. This is as bad as trying to debate a Roman Catholic on not worshipping Mary

Proving the validity of the Bible with the Bible itself is the definition of insanity.. Dan Barker, your explanation was excellent and logical. Thank you very much for your excellent research.

BTW, the _”preservation”_ argument is a bit circular. It proposes that how we come up with what the Bible says depends upon the very Bible that results from that methodology. IOW, _”we have to know what it says to know what it says.”_ Plus, there were a few specifics, such as _”every generation”_ that just don’t make sense. For example, where were those words preserved for *ENGLISH SPEAKERS* prior to a few English translations, and then, finally, by the KJV in 1611? Even if Christians spoke Latin, would the _Vulgate_ meet that requirement of _”every jot and tittle”?_ OTOH, Mr. White’s theory of preservation wasn’t as rigid. They were *preserved,* but not necessarily *universally available,* to *every* Christian in *every* generation. And even if the _Vulgate_ were inerrant, it still wasn’t _”available”_ due to illiteracy, especially in Latin, and inability to afford a very expensive handwritten copy. Their _”access”_ was through hearing the words *READ* by a (fallible) Roman Catholic priest, likely reading from a *COPY* of the _Vulgate_ that may have contained copyist errors. Jesus promised that _”not one jot or tittle would _*_PASS AWAY”._* I interpret that as not being permanently lost, not to being *universally available.* I might add a note to _Divine Providence,_ as well, in that the KJV and the underlying _TR_ came about, in God's timing, after the invention of the printing press!

I really appreciate this debate. Individual points aside, what concerned me most was Mr. Ross’ insistence on making this essentially a _”courtroom procedure”_ with rules that the person asserting the affirmative have the burden of proof, so that this *DEBATE* has a _"winner"._ That’s fine in a courtroom, where a defendant’s life and liberty hangs on a speedy verdict. With the textual basis of the Bible under consideration, I would prefer that we take our time and get it right. Obviously this has been going on since 1611, or earlier, so I wouldn’t expect a judge to decide within a few hours of a single debate. Blessings on *BOTH* Dr. White and Mr. Ross for enlightening us by presenting the best arguments of both sides.

KJV-O advocates need to pick which of the 30 TRs they are working from. Then they need to show which of the 1,000 edited KJV revisions perfectly match the TR they arbitrarily pic. But we won't find any of this. Christian faith and practice need to move on from such cultic practices. The Holy Spirit has no desire to defend a culture, and language is culture. That's why we are commissioned to preach to every nation, which is Bible-speak for every language. The doctrine that God's word is 'preserved' is simply wrong. His creation is preserved, but Jesus said God's Word is spoken and stands, and we are sanctified by that truth. This truth then is preached in every language.

It’s so hard to follow mister Ross.

Thanks for sharing video, praying for the souls who heard the Gospel of Christ.

The apostle John speaking to the born again says 1John 3:15 *whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer and ye know that no murderer HATH ETERNAL LIFE ABIDING IN HIM* No brother in Christ who hateth his brother has eternal life.

😂😂DR JAMES got beat up 😂😂

Are you the speaker preaching in this video? I've been a follower of Christ for the last 7 years attending a Quaker Church. I just wanted to comment that I extremely admire what you are able to do, admire in a non idolatrous way. I cant imagine having the confidence to proclaim the Word of God in public spaces. I have conversational debates in my head with others but never actual non believers I encounter. Maybe one day I will have the confidence to do so. Thank you.

Question: Around 53 minutes, you are discussing Dana and Mantey's participles, but how does one know which of these ten cases are being used? Is there a difference in the text between the Instrumental Participle and the Circumstantial Participle? Is it up to the translator to decide? Or is there an indication in the text?

Thank you very much for these... without this explanation, I would have thought that "by hanging" was clearer, but thanks to all of the examples, I can see that the translators did a first-class job in their translation work.

While I’m not KJVO I believe KJVO won this debate.

Could you please do a video on the difference between a local church only, landmark, and Baptist brider positions? I have heard that some of them hold to a certain number of points, and some of them hold to to some of those points but not all of those points is there truth to this?? please explain

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I’m not a fan of the Legacy Standard Bible because it’s a very Complementarian translation, and I believe in more Gender inclusive translations such as the NRSVUE and my favorite translation is the CSB but critical translations are more defendable and reliable than the KJV. As far as the “Hundreds of places that have no Greek support or very little” it was a waaaaay overstated argument, if you hold the TR to the same standard there are over 1000 places where you have the same issue. This info comes from Dwayne Green and James Snapp Jr. who aren’t even Critical text defenders. Finally Dr. Mark Ward, demolished this argument in his KJV parallel Bible website. Many of the texts that Ross brought up don’t differ in meaning or really translational wording at all. Ross subscribes to the Trail of Blood, KJV only, dispensationalist, anti reformed/church history, way of Believing found mostly in the IFB churches. It’s nearly impossible to have a conversation with these people.

The idea of ever signal word must be preserved is not what scripture teaches. Even Jesus when quoting the OT didn't get every word exact. Also if every single word is preserved perfectly then we still have the exact perfect Greek and Hebrew and we don't. BTW proof texting and cherry picking scripture also isn't proof of a doctrine. The real question is what does God's word mean by preserve

The more I study Doctor White the more I see a particular nasty, grifter-esque strain of Apologetics where cults of personality develop in these theological salons for sophists. They're all over the place; they debate professionally, for a living. They're not truly interested in truth or education. It's a hustle. I think you, Ross, defended your position perfectly and from my perspective as a KJVO guy you gave some of the best arguments I've heard yet. It really does at this point boil down to whether or not you believe in the inerrancy of Scripture. We can talk about what the Reformers did or didn't do as compared to modern textual criticism and translation and the like, but to me it comes down to, "By their fruits you shall know them." The motivations and mindsets of the Reformers versus guys like Doctor White is night and day just like the fruits of abandoning a Bible that - someone stop me if I'm lying - was the gold standard of English-speaking Christianity for centuries. When you look a little harder at the history of seminaries and universities and when a lot of heretical strands of thought started, their origins is clear: modern textual criticism which directly undermined beliefs about the inerrancy of the Bible. In an age where we've compromised so much to our detriment, it's time for English-speaking Christians to go back to Fundamentals and that includes reading the Bible of our forefathers.

James upholds a perverted bible, Ross upholds the only Bible not perverted, not much to debate. Peter Ruckman breaks down why the KJV is the only unperverted Bible in his video the absolute truth, everyone should listen to it to get the truth.

He is dishonest, the KJV only believer.

Thank you for filming this at the location. I am so interested in the context surrounding Acts 17 so this was extremely helpful and I’m so glad I found it. I’m shocked that Athena’s temple is in sight of where Paul stood! Wow!

Ross needs help. The Bible said its true so the Bible must be true.

As you can see Matthew 28:18 is in LSB but their teaching contradicts this verses due to Calvinism. They don't want to pray for Miracles at all and healing prayers are for good MD interventions largely. They frown upon any miraculous experience and you will be considered hyperGrace and trying to replace the Bible with experiences. What kind of child of God will not have an experience with the Father?

New Bible sides Vatican teaching if its from Siniaticus and Vaticanus because some of those were literally found in the trash.

Come on White...all of John McArthur Bible studies give denial of some of the actual scripture.

Grace Calvinisnt are very NASA supporter. NASA cant even go back to the moon. Wonder why?

Ross is right!

Grace Community Church promotes that Christians will be raptured and they dont have to worry about the Mark of The Beast. I don't agree at all. We have to be vigilant and not take it. Grace Community Church doesn't promote deliverance prayer. They keep very good "saintly" people like a club. Its nice to be there because everyone aims to be perfect and holy. However, evangelism to Calvinism from Pentecostal Christians are common. This in turn will render people without real Power to convert people because God's conversion is miraculous and Grace Calvinist denies many miracles.

I know the Legacy Standard Bible. They are very learned men. The problem is the source Siniaticus and Vaticanus have problems.

Weston and Hort are problematic characters due to affiliation to Catholic doctrines. They are used by the enemy to rewrite the Bible counter reformation.

Ross did a good job! Dead Sea Scrolls agrees with KJV. God preserves His Word! Just like Jesus The Bible is under attack by men. Jesus have wounds and so does many Bibles. But despite it all people still come to Jesus.

Strange women makes sense. They are pagans.

Calvinism creates attrition of Christianity. Just look at England. Scotland alone is down to 60,000.

The King James Translators are not present so it's easy to say 103 of them wouldn't be able to contradict James White. I came from Grace community and they have no emphasis on the Blood of Jesus. KJV says Mark of the beast is in and not on. LSB removes The Blood of Jesus, Jesus come in the flesh and uses being saved vs. saved. They use the word expanse for the firmament to fit the NASA narrative.

Siniaticus and Vaticanus are flawed.

Thomas Ross is very rude and condescending. He is also wrong on his knowledge of the Bible. He also misquotes Dan. Dan is just a liar and stupid.

Hmm, as I can prove in a court of law and day of the week that NKJV, NIV, RSV, ESV, RASV, ASV, RESV ect are not Gods word (derivative copyright), but are in fact mans interpretation of Gods Word, and good old Jimmy White cant do the same with the Authorized Version, I would say he has a problem (with God); before any one of you doubters comment, pleas post a full chapter of any of the above bibles publicly and I will take you seriously, if you can get around the (mans) derivative copyright..