I'm not very confident in my old style long point siwash hooks, so I started looking around. C'ultiva is apparently the Japanese brand name for Owner hooks. I tried #4 C'ultiva SBL-51 closed eye siwash hooks (medium wire barbless) for spoons and really like them for 1/6 and 1/4 oz. Thomas Buoyant and Kastmasters. I wish they were a little larger gap for 1/2 oz Kastmasters and Steelees. Recently ordered some #4 SBL-47 (fine wire barbless), #2 S-31 (fine wire small barb closed eye), and #6 SBL-35 (fine wire wide gap), but shipping from Japan takes about a month so don't have results yet. #2 VMC TechSet siwash hooks are huge, the same gap as old VMC 2/0 beak hooks (>1/2" gap). Had a couple fish hooked in the upper jaw with the point out the top of their head or eye. I think open eye hooks are tempered less at the eye so they are less likely to shatter than a closed eye hook. Still smart to wear glasses when cutting any hooks or rings.
@@normdeshon665 again, lots of great information. Thanks for sharing. I use the techset for my steelhead spinners are you’re right about the gap, they seem way bigger than the same hook in a Gamakatsu. I’ll check out the C’ultiva’s.
Just wrote a long comment on your first Dexter video. The biggest chinook (can't keep) I've caught there was 15", but most are 6-10" and really aggressive. I've had one hooked under the chin with all 3 barbs of a treble hook. That, and numerous pikeminnows made me change to single hooks (like you use). You might try the 1/4 oz. Buoyant spoons for fewer smolts. In Summer, west of the causeway/covered bridge can get busy with speed boats (tubes, jet skis, winter U of O crew boat races, etc.). East of bridge is no wake (or slow speed?) but is shallow with tree stumps. Seems a bit of a channel where cool water comes in from Lookout Point NE corner, but maps indicate all pretty shallow.
Thank you for the information. I’ll pick up some 1/4 oz. Buoyants before next season, I’m just now prepping for my hunting seasons and fishing will have to take a backseat. I want to explore this lake a bit more as well as Lookout. I may have mentioned it in the videos, but this is my first power boat. I’m a long time bank angler and drift boater, but am pretty new to trolling. I appreciate all the feedback I can get.
From a fishing point of view, Lookout Point was probably close to fishless after draining out down to silt in 2023. From a boat ride point of view, many tree stumps in shallow areas and often much more wind than Dexter. On the bright side, no crowds, (so don't get stranded).
Dexter was always a "drive by" lake for me until the Santiam Canyon fire September 2020 pushed me away from Detroit. Dexter doesn't have Kokanee, but it has Chinook smolts (the reason they flushed Lookout Point Reservoir in 2023, not legal to keep) which look very similar, like a rainbow trout in black and white. Detroit has all 3 and it can be hard to tell. Kokanee are slender, especially near the tail (caudal peduncle) and pointed nose. When they have spots, they are dark gray, not very prominent. Teeth are tiny. The chinook have dark black spots, some sharp little teeth and black gumline between the teeth and a more blunt nose. Looks like a kokanee that's 'large boned'. The stocking reports I've read for Dexter say "pounders", which I think are about 11 inches. I've still caught plenty with scars and cuts, likely from walleye, but I have also seen otters, bald eagles, osprey, cormorants and blue herons there. The trout they stock are triploid (sterile- no eggs or milt). They don't have a dark red stripe, more like a pink cheek and light pink 'airbrush effect' down the side. Once I caught a nice 18" trout that I later noticed slender body, darker red stripe, adipose fin and eggs inside. Apparently steelhead genetics. Legal to keep, probably couldn't spawn while trapped in Dexter, but would have released if I was paying attention. I've caught some Dexter trout on 10 different colors of Thomas Buoyant spoons. Copper is probably my favorite (FishUsa also sells copper and red). Watermelon has done very well at times (and it just looks cool). The brass/gold colors seem to catch more pikeminnow than the silvery colors.
@@normdeshon665 you are correct about the Kokanee. After I released this video, I had friends claim Kokanee and Chinook smolts, so I called the local biologist, Jeff Ziller. He confirmed there have never been Kokanee is Dexter or Lookout and the salmon species I caught were Chinook. I have caught a few Kokanee in my day, but have rarely targeted them until I bought this boat. I’ve caught them in East and Triangle Lakes. There are some decent trout in Dexter though, on a later trip with my wife we caught one that was somewhere between 16-18 inches, we kept it in the net and released it. I’ve heard of others larger than that! I hope to target Walleye soon as well, according to Ziller, they have been in Dexter for years and even have been caught in the middle fork below. Thanks for taking the time to comment! 👍🏻
@@mikemarsden842 the X9 is decent line, but I like the Super Slick better. I just think it holds up better and gets less tip wrap, mainly for float fishing.
Well, I'm still kind of in shock from watching you fight 3 huge trout in a row. And in an incredible area. An epic moment catching your personal best trout on camera! No wonder you had to soak that in for a bit. You definately had a cool plan, to fish so many lakes that quickly. Instant Classic Rage Fishing Episode!
That bobber technique works great with a wooly bugger . Let that bobber fill with a little water and get a little longer cast . I use that set-up down here in CA when the water warms up and the fish pull out away from the shore .
@@jasongundros1422 you’re the second person to suggest wooly buggers with a float, so you can bet I will have some next time! Thanks for the information. 🎣
Omg!! I LOVE this! How awesome.. "Hold on little buddies" 🤣.. Barry you are too cute! OK I want to help trek in some Brook trout next Summer with you & Janina!
@@bryanwaybrant925 agreed!! I can’t wait to get back there. Next time, I will know how special it is. That’s the most incredible lake I’ve ventured to!!
I like to put my bear bag upwind so the food smell blows right through my camp. Gotta keep that sense if danger... even when I'm asleep. Sometimes if I'm feeling real bold I'll smear bacon grease on my sleeping bag 😂 Some NICE fish you got on there. I must go to that lake!! After losing a couple monsters earlier this year, I switched to 8 pound line. 4 pound not quite cutting it. Great video man
Thank you John! That’s a G.Loomis GCX 7’6” UL in a 2-6# test with a Shimano Vanford 1000. I absolutely love that rod combo, very lightweight. I did a review on the rod, but the more I use it the more I like it. 🎣 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nzYbwD1Sp-4.htmlsi=x3I1cw5ciRDxz1hJ
Awesome adventure! Some dandy fish in that lake. It's always cool to find those old Forest Service shelters... kinda makes me wanna be a forest ranger in the 1930s. Nice to be able to set up base famp and explore and fish lakes nearby!
The better fish are yet to come in another nearby lake on day 3. That did turn out to be a pretty awesome base camp location. It was an awesome adventure for sure.
@@RAGEFISHINGconsidering this, you are doing it right. Think of an empty paper bowl falling down. It is likely to turn face up. Curved spoons flutter when they fall, but hopefully if they hit bottom (in still water), the hook point will be up.
Instant Classic Rage Video! Thoroughly enjoyed the incredible scenery! Momma Mallard has her own herd! That Brookie was sure a dandy! Seriously! That last Bow looked to go 13 inches. Scrappy was the rule for those high mountain trout! Mr. G Loomis was getting a proper workout! I sure wasn't expecting to see that kind of quality! Good eye for those Widowmakers, I know Janina appreciates you always being careful! Really cool old shelter. I was thinking about Trout Magnets but youd need 2 or 3 pound test to get the best action and once you mentioned the lethargic reactions of some of those trout, i realized you'd want to bring them in quickly. Good looking out for the trout! You always respect your fish! Can't say enough about the beauty of that area. I had almost as much fun watching you as you did actually fishing and all the equally enjoyable camping aspects. You looked a little tired that morning and ready for coffee! I rated the meals exactly the same as you did, Stroganoff #1, and Alfredo #2! Thanks so much, Barry!
Thanks William! It was such an awesome experience. I wasn’t expecting that quality of fish either, I usually find pretty small fish in the mountain lakes, an 8 incher is usual a happy find. The fish eye lens on the GoPro doesn’t do them justice, but I get a little excited and might not be the best judge of size. 😉 You’ll love part 2 and I haven’t even started the edit, but I’ve looked at some of the footage and it’s incredible. The main lake I fish is one of the prettiest lakes I’ve ever seen. Thanks again for taking the time to comment, I always appreciate your thoughts. 🎣
Not the twin lakes outta glide it’s a hike in lake and even has a 3 walled cabin like that one I haven’t been there in a bout 20 years though so maybe you can know… beautiful place and nice fish looks like an amazing sopt
@brandonwalton5068 I should have clarified, the twin lakes I was thinking are by crane prairie. My apologies. That sounds like a cool place too. I know the Forest Service used to built these shelters along trails, not only for hikers but for their employees that may get caught out on the trail. My dad and I camped near one years ago, at night the rodents started running around. That’s why I didn’t want my backpacking tent set up near it. 😉
@@archit2796 I give credit where credit is due! 😁 Those dumb cans started blowing in the wind a few nights, sounded like a bells banging against the rafters.
@@bryanwaybrant925 I was fishing a small Hawken Trout Trap, but you’re right, a fly would work great too! I need to add a few different flies to my box. Any suggestions? One of my friends suggested a wooly buggers.
@portland503 I didn’t have any flies. I had taken a small Plano box with my favorite lures: small spinners, spoons and a few jigs. I will throw some flies in to use with a float next time though.
@@siaosipanapa852 it was an awesome trip. Part 2 will be even better, haven’t even started the edit yet. I was hoping we’d see you today! We were surf perchin’ in the usual spot. The ocean was angry, but the fish were biting! 🎣
@@RAGEFISHING I was there Monday morning and all I used was the sardine rapala and caught 15 less than hour. Some of them were probably 14 to 15 inches. I was fishing right at the mouth of the river at low tide Any luck?
@@siaosipanapa852 wow! That sounds like a good day. We caught a bunch, but released them all. I still need to try your method, we were using gulp as usual.
Those Safari's are AWD with a 4.3 V6, a good platform to use. Very nicely set up, a great deal of thought went into it. This is a video I'll watch several times to make sure i take advantage of all the features incorporated into it that would work in my vehicle. Great video, thanks to you both!
It does, but they are almost touching the water. I generally wear low top shoes and don’t want to get them wet. If you wear waders, rubber boots or water sandals and aren’t worrying about getting your feet wet, you can have them down as shown.
Tui Chub Champion! They're thick! Dandy brown that first day! Even the dog on shore thought so! I used to read Foeld and Stream articles about the monster browns at Flaming Gorge Reservoir in Utah. They big boys are mostly nocturnal feeders, with a very short window at pre-dawn and the last vestiges of dusk. They'd troll fast, using 8 or 9 inch jointed Rapalas at night for the trophies. Bucktail spoons took some. OMG! When you hooked those trout the action on your rod looked so awesome! I have a 7 ft ultralight rod but it isn't that nice. It's a Fenwick I got on sale, but it's not bad at all. So it's getting hard to find cork, huh? It had no effect on you with that rod, fishing-wise. Just getting use to it is the thing, I'd guess. Nice starting point with the Panther Martin! Best color, too. And rewarded with a first cast trout! Ever fish Paulina? Just curious. Nice set up with the small trailer and truck. Great video, really enjoyed it! Thanks, Barry!
Thanks William! And thanks for the tips. I had a rapala tied on which I fished a bit, not one bite. Those shallow browns wouldn’t touch any of my metal lures so I grabbed that trout trap and a few casts later, bam! I really like the rod, I’ve never had over the 6’6” rod for trout, but i absolutely love the 7’6”!!! Lastly, thats why a guy with 2 aluminum boats is fishing out of a pontoon 😁, I had to tow the trailer over there. Our little Nash 17K is the perfect size for Janina and I. Fairly light, but a 4 season trailer, easy to tow and backup.
@@jessejames1395 Awesome! I fished Fall River the morning before going to East Lake on Day 2. Such a beautiful river. (I didn’t even take a camera. 😉) and thank you, glad you like the videos.
Chubzilla! Those were bigguns! That was a nice brown. At first light I love making a cup of coffee and walk down from camp to the waters edge and watch those browns cruising in 4-6 inches of water. I’ve never seen that anywhere else. Most are in the 14”-20” range. Super cool!
I couldn’t believe the size of the one I spooked out of the shallows. I quickly redirected my location to the bank line. It seemed that’s what everyone else was doing too. I was fishing too deep at first trying to do my own thing, but the big ones were being caught near the bank.
Like I said in the video, these were the first Tui Chubs I’ve caught, at least in East Lake. Had I known for sure, I would have dispatched them. Maybe I would have taken them back to camp for dinner, 🤢
Thanks for this as I have recently run into some problems with really small trout on treble hooks. Looks like you’re replacing with nickel hooks whereas all the treble hooks I’ve seen are dark. Does that make a difference in your experience?
I’ve considered it, but the main places I use the pontoon it wouldn’t work based on ground obstructions. It would definitely work for a lot of people, so thanks for the tip!
@@RAGEFISHING So you wouldn’t be able to push a wheelbarrow through those areas? Really? That’s what it’s like. A wheelbarrow. Works great over my bumpy terrain.
@user-eo1qq4xz8w nope, not this pond, there are large boulders placed to keep vehicles out and lots of blackberry undergrowth that would love to pop the pontoons.
Thank you! I have the TSR 801 2S, which is the 6’8” Ultralight. It casts well, it’s featured in my Vanford 1000 review. However without some controlled casting testing it’s hard to say what casts better. I think some testing is in order. 😉
