The problem then becomes, your string/rope is going to chew right into the center of the plumbing fitting creating a channel that binds against that string/rope. At every bend. Before you get the wires through a long run, you're most likely going to find that your string/rope breaks under the friction created by using the wrong elbow even though you managed to get a string sucked in.

It doesn't even really save any money. A proper electrical PVC 90 is dirt cheap. Even cheaper than this illegal installation, probably the cheapest installation possible while having the added advantages of being both functionally valid and code compliant, is to use a torch to heat a straight piece of PVC and bend it in a large sweep by hand.

Pull cord and some wire lube...

Electric in the same trench as wet utilities?

@@sparky72 yeah, pools have lights, and those lights need a conduit to be ran to the pool equipment electric panel area, all the lights get connected to a transformer

@@sparky72 Underground electrical installations are always considered wet locations. Every pipe in the ground must be assumed to be entirely filled with water and utilize materials that can be safe and functional while completely submerged, because most of them will be at some point.

In the US, Electrical grade PVC is gray, plumbing PVC is white. Other plastics used in plumbing are red, blue, or black.

Ironic. You absolutely can pull wire in a circle. It's even entirely code compliant to do so. The maximum allowed bend is 360 between pull points. It's a terrible idea, particularly in an underground long run, but it's legal and possible with the proper fittings. So let's paraphrase your own statement, "before you make a video bad mouthing someone, first learn what you are talking about."

The reason I'm here in the comments, looking for the merciless mocking of that particular phrase. It's plastic electrical metallic tubing 😂

What are you talking about? Just cuz shit and piss will flow down the pipe doesn't mean you can pull wire through it. Let alone 1,400'.

Spoken like someone who has never pulled a single wire in their entire life.

A water proof pull box would work too

@@chrisanthony579 This is sub-optimal. If you use a completely sealed box underground, the water which inevitably either enters or condenses from this air into the system has nowhere to escape. In an underground installation, the gold standard is a box that is entirely open on the bottom side with a thick layer of crushed rock below it for drainage. You can't prevent water in underground systems, but you can give it somewhere to go.

Not in the USA. Some other countries do, or so I've heard yes.

It pays to do it right the first time. Training and experience matter.

@@XSFx5 I'm just gonna have to disagree. When you look at it as an hourly salary, it's simply not fair that often tradesman salaries are much higher than engineers' salary. Heck, you can even compare annual salaries. Plumbers, electricians, HVAC, framers - not uncommon to be making close to $300k per year. What's worse is that the quality isn't automatically guaranteed (as you said "experience") and I've learned it the hard way over and over again. I've been told more than once that it's so expensive just because they can charge that much.... Because there's always demand and they'll always find someone who will pay.

​@sergeybebenin $300k? You're joking, right?

@@sergeybebenin Huh, what now? Where the heck are you from that at that any of those trades are making $300k/yr equivalent salary?! Let's take a generous high-cap on JW to Foreman pay & say it's take-home-pay of $50/hr (and certainly not an apprentice making <$20/hr) with steady work (not a guarantee, can be feast or famine work availability-wise) all year, that's roughly a third of what you just said, around $104000/yr, yeah? Where are you getting $300k from? (Aside: at the end of the day though, income has to be weighed against cost of living expenses, which is relative depending on where you live) Something isn't totalling up right with your dollar amount you threw in your comment, and then compared to engineers. Or are you estimating based on $10k for a single job contract from this video? Because that doesn't count for labor, materials, tools, maintenance of said tool, or other overhead expenses. There's a lot more consideration going to a bid that most people think, or having to deal with unexpected screw-ups of a previous contractor that have to be fixed to make it (safety) code complaint or meet-or-exceed minimum industry standards. If you work in construction at all surely you've seen some of this that causes budgets to balloon and time-tables to fall behind (which again, is something experienced labor and using the correct materials the first time saves money in the long run). Anyways, I don't mind the disagreement at all, but am a bit baffled where that dollar amount number you mentioned came from

@@chickenfishhybrid44 I can't recall any trades getting an annual "salary", given the fluctuating nature of work in the construction industry. Doing a ton of overtime work with travel pay bonus incentives for going across the country or internationally to do something highly specialized and dangerous like underwater welding? Maybe then it's possible to get $300k in a trade, but that's not even close to what most of the workforce trying to raise a family (and be present as a parent) and pay a mortgage can do. There are opportunities out there if you have no strings, youth, and are willing to do anything and go anywhere with the specialized skills to back it up. But that's not the norm, not at all.

I've seen electrical conduit nipples used on process connections to transmitters. At 900psi it leaks, and when a manager notices it they make sure that particular contractor never works on any of our locations again 😂

The code is max 360 degrees of bend.

@@supervillain3213 I don't know any electrician that wants to pull wire through a long underground run with 360 of bend in it. Pushing that kind of installation to its code limit is a recipe for a lot of swearing.

They may have buried it for later use and not actually put any wires through it yet.

Before it is buried, they can pull the wires through the pipe and work the elbow over the wire then glue it together. That will work when the ground is open, but not later.

@@BryanTorok It should be noted that while that is also a possibility, it is yet another part of the installation that does not comply with code. Installing wiring as you are piecing together the pipe is an additional code violation. For this exact reason.

@@shushnik That is good to know. It's been many years, but I have seen at least one professional electrician doing exactly that with rigid metal conduit/pipe. What does the NEC say about putting an extra wire or leaving a piece of rope in a conduit for use in pulling in additional wires later?

@BryanTorok The NEC does not prohibit either except in that the pipe has a maximum fill limit. But I would suggest against the practice. Things pulled together frequently get intertwined during the pull, so re-pulling just one part without pulling the rest out is often impossible, wasting the effort and material and requiring everything to be removed and repulled anyway.