I always say that Stargate was a great movie and (grew into) an excellent television series. And as much as I absolutely loved it, I *don’t* want more of it. I don’t want to be sold the same stories I enjoyed decades ago. Nine-tenths of the fun of science fiction is new ideas or even old ideas with new twists on them.
the Stargate always has a reason and a point. Ships take time to travel.. The stargate is a few seconds to transmit. It is like saying "a portal to home would be pointless" and then having a train that takes 12 hours to get you home as a alternative. few seconds to travel or 12 hours to travel... Simply put how fast do you need to get somewhere. The ship is slower but can serve more locations.. not just the stargate. But the stargate is the fastest method of travel.
Reason why we haven't heard from the Tollan: They were so embarrased at being seen to compromise the lofty ethnics that they lorded over others, that they changed the name of their species. Whenever one of them is told, they look like a Tollan, they just say: "Tollan, who are they?" or maybe "How dare you compare me to such a duplicitous species!".
Prions, phages, viruses and bacteria are nature's nanites and have evolved over billions of years. Whatever nanites technology develops would probably be at best similar. I'm the SG-1 world, there's a third group of human form replicators, the ones that humans built from what they learned from the other two.
The Tollan didn't survive. First off the RPG books have never been cannon they have just been lore people liked. That one game was approved to be made but it was never cannon those are 2 different things. The Tollan according to canon never traveled off world and they also stopped using ships almost completely and the few they had were extremely slow. Hell the ships they used to get to their world was so slow it took them nearly 100,000 years. Also they were absolute failures in almost everything. The blatantly lost the ability to fight illnesses themselves. They could no longer heal simple injuries without their technology. They grew so powerful they had forgotten simple shit like sometimes weaker things can still pose a threat. They didn't have time to get off world threw the stargate because they literally required an advanced system that was destroyed in the attack. They couldn't power their system to turn the star gate on and they were in reality trying to fabricate a new ship to get off world using their printing technology but while they were building their ship they got attacked and their last hope of leaving that planet was destroyed. They were in the process of trying to negotiate getting rehomed but O Neill told them "You know what we like those guys and we don't want to insult our friends by having them deal with your rude asses." He then walked away. O Neill blatantly told them to shove it. They could have evacuated and SG1 was trying to save them but their own insufferable bullheadedness caused their death. SG1 was on their planet for 3 weeks trying to get them to agree on where to go but they refused everything because they didn't want to live with primitives and they blatantly only had 1 real city left and so they were left to die and they chose death by being morons.
See I’m not so convinced. And the reason I say that is because I’m the most recent one MGM stepped in to review it before it got published. And that one seemed to try and clean up slot of the inconsistencies between the show and old RPGs.
I'm not big on serialized TV shows as they are doing them right now, the way that SG-1 and older Star Trek shows was much more enjoyable, which is why Lower Decks is so beloved and why the Orville was also a hit.
True, I just finished Star Trek Progeny, and it was done in that older style. But from what I’ve been told part of the issue is how shows are air today, ie on streaming platforms. They just get less money than being prime air time. Which means less money to make more episodes, so they tended to focus on more serialized stuff.
@@sg-24 ST Prodigy was phenomenal, I didn't know I needed it until I watched it. I have to say animated shows for these kinds of projects, like a continuation of Stargate TV universe, might be the way to go. I watched the animated B5 movie that came out not long ago and I really liked it. We got good adult animated shows right now that would not be as great as they are if they were done live action, mainly because of the problem you mention. Having an overall story arc but making each episode self contained is easier I think when animated. The other thing is that streaming services are not really taking advantage of the fact its something streamed. They do not need to constrain their episodes to the runtime that regular TV shows used to have. They could run an episode for 50 minutes, another for 45 and yet another for 1hr20m if they wished, whatever the story called for. As it stand each series is being done 8 episodes at a time, with a runtime comparable to what we used to call mini series, or just 4 movies. Yet they pretend to call them series and sometimes stretch stuff and add things to pad individual episodes that end up making it boring.
The or I may be dead, and many of the people might have left the religion, but the idea that everyone worship the RRI is completely gone may not be 100% true. Let’s see what they do with the revamp.
It would be hilarious if a Tau'ri BC-304 ship found a Tollan colony and refused to help them with resources since it's "wrong" to help lesser advanced races with more advanced technology
Maybe there isn't an easy way for them to get from their other colonies to earth. We don't know much about them so maybe they are terraformed worlds that don't have a star gate on them preventing any real movement of the survivors to regroup with Earth.
There is some lore on them that I didn’t add for this video (later one planned) but if I recall these colonies were originally cut off. So I don’t think they had stargates.
This sounds more like an anime that it does a live-action TV show if they did an anime version of this I would not be upset because I would feel like it is something entirely different than the TV shows that I know and love the Stargate TV shows could ever be a anime of any kind yes I am talking about Stargate infinity and while a lot of us have a fond memory of that and I find it for the lack of a better word cute I do not count that show as Stargate as I enjoy it. But this screams anime to me
If they figured out the gate technology in a way that they meld Asgardian transport into it. Then they could enhance the gates capability. So they could open the star gate but then configure the whole ship to move through the gate using the Asgard technology mid teleport through the gate. Then it would be more feasible to scout through gates and launch them into orbit to allow ship fleets to transport through the stargate. Your matter footprint thins out in being transported by Asgard technology meaning more items can then travel through the gate without issue. Edit: They also might not need to use the larger gates anymore if this happens
12:00 You forget that Ancients seed Milky way with human lifes, so no all planets with humans where by goa'uld. it is posinbble that Ra run to Touri but goa'uld already had human hosts from other planets
So this one is kind of weird, because it’s kind of unclear. Some were 100% seeded by the Goa’uld, and others weren’t. I will admit this is kind of fumble on me.
Did Morgan La Fey ( ancient ) put The Wraith to sleep as a response to The Ancients loosing the war / abandon the war ? When SG-1 was looking for Merlin s weapon , they came n contact with an alien bug that put them to sleep. Since The Wraith heal more quickly , it didnt affect them the same way , however , after the war , The Wraith decided to sleep...why? Morgan used the same ticks to put the Wraith to sleep as a screw you 4 winning the war ( they didnt win the war , the ancients just left )
the Satedans didn't have 1940s tech, Ronan's gun is a Satedan pistol, the wraith went after them because they were becoming technologically advanced enough to be a legitimate threat. while their buildings resembled 1940s construction its likely that they didn't build their structures to be too advanced to draw suspicion and they didn't have ships because it was a risk plus the stargates in the pegasus galaxy were on or around every habitable world making it the best means of getting around for them. we know the Satedans were very advanced because of the fact all of them when introduced had considerably advanced energy weapons
@@sg-24 Ronan never came into contact with the travelers and look at the other Satedans we see in the show, they use the same tech and same kind of weapons even in Ronan's flash back
@fangslore9988 true Ronon may have never met the Fravelers before, it there are other ways he could have gotten it. You also might want to recheck those flashbacks. Because none of them use the energy pistol.
@@sg-24 the downside of what happened to the Satedans is the loss of access to their home world of Sateda considering the inoperable state the gate was left in but the darker question is what the wraith did to the millions or even billions of people on Sateda. because we never see any bones and the capital was still quite intact when Ronan was brought back there for a hunt. its not stated if they were rounded up for feeding or executed in some other means
It can be okay. Startgate can be rebooted in a parallel dimension, as we've already been introduced to the concept in SG1. This story could go towards a totally different direction, but could have some easter eggs, like finding goa'uld fossils and learning that they died out centuries ago, excluding them from the new plot, but warming the heart of long time fans. What if we never burried the gate? What if we rediscoveret it earlier? What if we discover it in 2500? What if there was no gate in Earth, and what if the goa'ulds never took humans to other planets? So many possibilities!
Right, which made their ships faster. In fact someone pointed out to me that the Asgard despite having access and more knowledge about the gates prefer to use their ships over the gates.
@@sg-24 Considering it's what killed the series I imagine it'd be the best route regardless of the minority who liked it. And setting aside personal taste, Universe introduced the most ridiculous and unworkable concepts in the entire series, such as Earth being simultaniously incredibly overpowered thanks to Asgard tech yet the Lucian Alliance somehow being a tangible threat.. which is pretty much like making a story where the United States is in an equal rivalry with an LA street gang. I just don't see a continuation when the world building has been torched that badly.
I read those books in high school in the early 00s, while also watching SG1 in its heyday. I liked how it presented a somewhat more lonely and mysterious universe, and it was pretty good mil sci-fi (modern vs alien weapons, Earth hastily mobilizing space to defend against Hathor). I didn’t like the “drama” plot lines, e.g. Daniel’s marital problems and how Abydonian refugee difficulties were presented.
You don't seem to realize there are 400 billion stars with trillions of planets with black holes, neutron stars super nova and a lot of stuff the leg work is the planets a d stargates, some planets terroform it's not easy to transverse so much space even if you have fast drive the solar systems are big stargates are needed
I do understand that, but here’s the thing. Stargate is a fictional universe where sometimes real world laws are just hand waved away. For example realistically there should be no way Thor can travel from one galaxy to the next to stop a Goa’uld incursion on a protected planet in like 15-10 minutes. But he does. And all that Asgard tech was given to Earth.
I can totally accept that any colonies left after Tollana was sacked would lay real low. On the other hand these colonies would be even more tempting target for Anubis and others. Still all it would take is a small number of Tollan with access to their tech, recources and time to get back on their feet BUT having been caught out like that theyd probably go full Genii hiding their entire presense as much as possible and hiding their infrastructure and population even better a bit like the Nox who we know they knew.
I know im late to the party with this, but my personal headcannon is that the stargates are meant to be a supplement to interstellar travel, not an all-out replacement. Given that the ancients were an advanced society, they surly had the means to transport enough goods by ship to set up a colony and use a gate to keep in contact and have a means of getting a basic trade route while setting up and in the eatly life of said colony. Even if this wasn't the case, an alternative could be a means of facilitating communication between future civilisations.
Despite being late to the party I really do like your comment. As I do think you are right in this is how the gates are meant to be used. But a lot of the first comments on this video were people arguing that yes you can relay on the gate for almost anything.
There are many immensely powerful things in stargate so I think it seems more like they are culling potential hazards to the balance, or peace they (and many other 'medium power' groups) have. A judge of basic character in an optimistic manner combined with the intent to scare but cause little harm makes me think they are playing an important role in the galactic/universal system of checks and balances.
See I would mind that idea, as it lines up with the mindset of most of the older races in SG, but they specifically target races that use the tech of other races. Like the I can see the Aschen flying under the radar, but the Wraith and Ori, do they get a pass?
I mean not really. Yes new gates have been made, the Tollan/Nox one and the one made by stuff off Amazon. But those were made by super advanced races. I know Brad had an idea for a new SG show where we made our own gate, but if I recall it was kind of rough. Also if Earth right now can barely make a normal gate, how can they make a super gate? Not to mention in order to make a super gate it seems like you need to destroy a planet to power it. I’d argue that’s kind of a high price.
Having one ion Cannon is useless to cover earth and to be honest...the tolans literally ripped off Earth with that deal. But...since they had one, they could have installed it on the Prometheus or dedalus, or if not capable to install on a ship transfer it to Atlantis ..., but it was never mentioned again.
English 🇺🇲 Tauri, Jaffa, Asgard, Tollans, Furlings, Aturens, Tokra, Lanteans, Nox, Madronians. Well, it was already possible to form a Galactic Alliance, together with other races that have been discovered and others that are yet to be discovered, and this only in the Milky Way. Imagine the same in the Pegasus Galaxy. Portugal 🇵🇹 Tauri, Jaffa, Asgard, Tollans, Furlings, Aturens, Tokra, Lanteans, Nox, Madronianos. Bem, já seria possível formar uma Aliança Galáctica, juntamente com outras raças que já foram descobertas e outras que ainda estão por descobrir, e isto apenas na Via Láctea. Imaginem o mesmo na Galáxia Pégaso.
New gates could come about in the future. But I’m less certain supergates could, even if you build them it seems like you need to destroy a planet to power it. Kind of a big cost.
@@sg-24 Not necessarily. In the Pegasus galaxy, they connected a normal stargate to it and then used a charge to jump the gate to the super gate. This allowed them to power a super gate from the Pegasus end indefinitely until they needed to use that super gate. Thus, they then had to manually shut down the connected gate. now in the ori galaxy there must have been a factory for super gate segment construction on some level or even known by the ex-priors meaning that super gate segments can still be built which means they can send them to Pegasus and to other galaxies and other places the SGC/Tau'ri deem as major trade hubs and travel to different galaxies (considering how prolific Alterans were in their desire to explore and it wouldn't surprise me if they found other galaxies have their own gates and gate networks. that being said the Alterans built the star gates as a means of travel between places they've previously been and sent seed ships to plant gates on worlds they deem vital. also its worth pointing out the Pegasus stargates are bigger than the milkyway gates and are much more advanced due to new technologies the Alterans developed went Lantis/Atlantis traveled to the Pegasus galaxy. the gates the Alterans built in pegasus are also much more powerful then the milkway gates, the gate on Atlantis literally had to be deactivated by removing the control crystal since it would have acted as the dominant gate on earth. so realistically i can see it being feasible for star gates to stay relevant in the future by using it for exploration since maybe a ship maybe too detectable by any hostile forces they may yet encounter in the galaxy which could also include rogue ex-priors who could turn to selfish ventures like piracy or the like since now they nolonger see the ori as gods thanks to the anti-ori deprogramming device the Alterans refugees built when fleeing the ori galaxy
Not thousands, but yes hundreds. Look up "people zoo's" the English started a war with the Inuit that Russia finished and sold the land to the USA. Inuit learned fluent English reading and writing between being exhibited...
