Got a reaction from RatRig, you need all packages, except the upgrade to hybrid if you have a hybrid ordered already. Contact them to have them invoice you for the rest.
Im not going to lie... Looks like ill be cancelling my pre-order this week. I was the most excited ive ever been for something but i just saw its going to cost almost $500 shipped for what equates to just a second toolhead assembly (pre-order was for a hybrid) is steaight up greed. For $500 i can buy an entire second printer from someone else. Im really bummed to see the pricing. Im even more bummed to have this excitement squashed, but i just refuse to support greed and bloated pricing.
Where is the shipping to and what is the weight, is it the whole printer? You should know this is increasingly common especially with international shipping or large items. I’ve had to ship things items via freight and occasionally the shipping costs more than the item itself
They are not only charging for the hardware and assembly, but to cover for all the R&D needed to get to this point. They must have run their numbers and ended up happy with this value. Either they don't expect to sell as much as it cost to develop or they want to make up for it as fast as possible as anyone can come up with a better alternative anytime. But it is true that for this price you can almost buy two whole Bambu A1's or one P1S. They cannot be compared as they are in two complete different leagues. RatRig is a small company of 25 employees that generates less than 5M USD and Bambu's revenue was 1.5B in 2023
I'm looking for my first 3D printer build and I just ran across rat rig. Awesome name. I'm a welder by trade so I prefer building than ready-made. But the software has to be user-friendly too and I think I found my match. Thanks
This beacon it uses is light years ahead of tap. This only uses that button to measure the offset between tool 0 and tool 1. Still uses beacon/contact beacon to measure bed level as far as I know. I'll let you know for sure in a week or 2.
So if I'm ordering a completely new printer, and I click the "customize and add to cart" everything check is what I need to have a complete basic printer right? I don't need what is not check by default right? Like I don't need the "1 x Bed Plate - Cast tolling plate" or the "1 x RASBERY PI"? So to get it with IDEX I would need to check "...HYBRID Upgrade Kit", and all 4 items in the IDEX section?
You do. I do understand that the ordering process is a bit confusing. For the Vcore4 the only thing that is selected by default is the mecanical kit (extrusions, linear rails, etc). You have to check every item you need for the 3d printer separately. You need to select the extruder, hotend, motors, and so on. As a rule of thumb, just check everything, and go from there. You can unselect some parts, because you may have them already at home (I already had fans and the Z motors, so i did not order them) To own a ratrig is pretty involved. I would NOT recommend it as a first printer.
They are really completely different machines tho. XL is a tool changer and that is a loy slower then ratos quick swap is. Pluses and minuses to both but once they figure out MMC iDex it will be kinda game changing, more or less instant material changes. This is what I've been trying to get my tridex to do with ERCFs but I'm too dumb. I don't think multi zone heating is needed on a < 500mm build plate. The zones would be so small and the chonky bed would soak up the heat so fast it would run 100% none stop.
@@JH-zo5gk you have to separate the bed too with a little space between. This allows for expansion and keeps the bed flat. Large beds when heated want to warp. Also, why heat the entire bed when you are only printing on a small area. The additional power cost is large and unnecessary.
@@T313COmun1s7 if you're using a big printer just to use a small section of the bed for small prints, you're better off just buying a smaller printer with less moving mass, therefore faster. Multiple heating areas in big, enclosed printers like the Prusa XL and the Voron Phoenix are cool gimnicks, that's all.
@T313COmun1s7 the power cost? Eh. The few extra pennies spent are not really a factor once you $2500 into a printer. Besides we use the bed to heat the chamber by blow fans on it and I think most people are printing materials other then pla and petg on these so a heated chamber makes things much more better. Idk to each their own. I got this cause I like to tinker and wanted a large powerful machine. Also my 400mm build plate starts with a 0.07mm mesh at room temp and flattens to 0.06mm at 75c so warping isn't a issue with a well-made precision plate.
Kommt drauf an was du bestellt hast. Komplette Kit mit Hybrid? Dann brauchst du die oben genannten Komponenten. Hast du ohne Hybrid bestellt, benötigst du auch das Hybrid Update. Was hast du dir denn genau bestellt?
That stopper to prevent the nozzle from leaking is genius. So simple and then you don't have to go through all of the extra steps to purge the nozzle before continuing. Probably speeds up the process a ton. I can see basically every MM system stealing this idea (assuming it's not patented).
Hi! You need Hybrid to have IDEX, but you don't need IDEX to have Hybrid. The kit you're asking for doesn't exist! :) Can you let me know what did you find confusing / unclear in specific? Happy to look into it!
@@ilovetechnology8436 you need all of the packages on the list unless you can source any of the materials/parts yourself. The biggest cost is hotend/nozzle so it bumps the price up a fair bit.
@@ilovetechnology8436 If you have the basic VCore4 (only 2 xy Motors), then you need the Hybrid kit, asewell as the IDEX kit. The hybrid kit is kind of a stepping stone to get up to the IDEX. I ordered the IDEX yesterday, and as a standard VCore 4 owner, I got everything except the Printed parts which I will have to print myself. When I opened the product page the first time I thought "Ohh wow, only 130€! thats cheap!".... Yea... I ended up spending 500€
On the product page for the IDEX upgrade, there is a BOM to show what each "package" includes. It is stuff like the Orbiter, Hotend, Toolboard, Stepper Driver, etc. AFAIK RatRig strongly reccomends to have identical hotends and extruders.
@@Vaynexx_ Yes, there is a BOM, but without knowledge what the contents of each hardware pack is I can't tell if I need the CAN toolboard from the second option or if it's included in the IDEX Hardware Pack v1.0. I've ordered just the IDEX Upgrade Kit v1.0 (Hybrid to IDEX), but I'm not certain this is enough. Can anyone confirm ?
@@ilovetechnology8436 AFAIK the toolboard and other toolhead electronics (extruder, hotend, fan, etc) is not includet in the 130€ Idex upgrade kit. For a full second toolhead you pay about 400€ i think. You have to get the hardware kit, the electonics etc
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Drop in.. how you drop in second linear rail carriage without dismounting x axis 😂
On a 500, this can be done by lust loosening the rail with the toolhead at one end, then there's enough range of movement to add the second carriage on the other end. I removed my extra carriage this way. On smaller machines, I think this won't be possible, but I don't know.
Bro wtf if you got to the point where you want to upgrade the printer that means you got it running in the first place, so adding another head won't really be that hard 🤦
Schade das es von euch noch nicht so viele Videos auf deutsch vorhanden sind .. Es ist unmöglich zu entscheiden ob die Drucker von euch gut oder eher schlecht sind !
I realize that I am late to the party on this video. But I'm coming to ask, When is the IDEX kit going to be available? I cant wait!! I'm going nutz over here! LOLOL! You guys and gals are awesome!
Any updates on the mills? Curious about the release date and pricing details! Also, I noticed that the exposure changes automatically in the video, causing a noticeable swell that can be distracting. I’d recommend setting the exposure manually-it just looks a lot nicer for the viewer.
Should update the ratos install documentation to link to 2.1RC2. Trying to get 2.0.2 working on a cb1 using instructions was a nightmare. 2.1RC2 was smooth and straightforward.
"Z calibration is [...] crucial for printing [sic], and is more often than not a pain in the butt for users" No truer words have been said. Currently struggling with that on my Trident and Beacon RevE. Hope this video helps