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Its 10000% a fake, They are simply trying to cash in on the Chris Reeve brand popularity by stealing the logo and putting it on a cheaply made Chinese knife.
Looks like a nice design. Descriptions on Temu and what arrives in the mail are many times very different. I've made about 75 items in many, many different orders of knives and other items from Temu over the last 6 months and I've lost track of how many items had to be returned due to the product being a completely different item than what I ordered. Just yesterday I had 3 knives come in and all 3 are incorrect. They aren't in any way what I ordered. The locks are a totally different design in that they are liner locks instead of back locks , the handle materials are not the correct material in that 1 was supposed to have acrylic handles and it came with of all things an embossed metal handle with flowers on it and the other 2 came with the wrong lock + the wrong handles plastic vs wood. After my items that are still in the system are delivered or returned I think I'm done with Temu. Some of their vendors are great and many just ship whatever they seem to have on hand.
Yeah, Temu is definitely a big gamble as new knife vendors come and go every day. Most have no idea what kind of knives they are selling or what features they have. I tend to stick with the name brand knockoffs on there but its still a crapshoot as to what you'll get. If you're looking for better quality clone knives you might want to look at ok-knives.net. I've gotten good quality stuff from them. I have several reviews of their knives coming up this week. Thanks for sharing!
I've heard it said that there are at least 10 times as many fake Rolex watches out in the world than authentic ones (and Rolex knows exactly how many watches they've made, so this isn't too hard to verify.) The same thing seems to be happening with knives. If you're spending more than $100 on a knife, be sure of the provenance.
Definitely wise advice! The clones have become very difficult to tell from the real things these days. Always buy from a known, reputable dealer if you want the real thing! Thanks!
Love these kinds of videos, spyderco aren't losing a penny to these clones, no one who can afford a real one will buy a clone... And no one who buys a clone would ever buy or be able to justify a real one.
Sorry man. I just get a little too caught up in the moment. I'll work on that. They don't say what the steel on either one is, but I suspect that the steel on the stonewashed is an 8CR13MOV and it cost me $35.14. But I paid for the one with the hammered/textured scales. They just sent me the plain scales by mistake. If you want a good one go to ok-knives.net and search for "Chris Reeve" and you'll find good versions there. Thanks!
If they hadn't put out their Tenacious and there was another I can't remember..I wouldn't have ever bought one of those goofy looking things either but... I've still been grabbing my fake Shaman I bought over Temu. It's a badass knife and if I lose it I can back it up 6 or so times and well.....I lose knives. Love the content Flip.
IDEA - grab ya dremel tool and grind down a mimic of the titaniums lock up geometry onto the steel one , cause from what i saw its the flat on the blade is out of whack and needs to be flattened some.
You should check out the Sanrenmu Land 91x. It's basically Sanrenmu's "hommage" to the Sebenza without any of the CR branding, so not strictly a fake/clone. Great action due to bearings, no mystery blade steel but actual Sandvik 12C27 and comes in different styles (full steel body frame lock, steel liner/g10 scale liner lock and also a full titanium frame lock).
I'm one of the weirdos who has the real thing, but also bought the clones. I have a real Small Sebenza 31, and then I have the steel 21 clone from Temu, as well as the titanium and D2 21 clone, which I got from eBay for about $40. In most aspects, the eBay clone is the better one. It has better lock-up, better texturing, better color, it's sharper out of the box, and the closing action is closer to the real thing. The biggest difference is with the opening action. The real deal is smooth from start to finish, where the Ti clone has a strong detent, and snaps open once you've broken that detent. It feels more like a regular knife and less like a CRK.
Hey Dave. Thanks for sharing. I actually hear this quite a bit. The real ones are absolutely higher quality all the way. But these knockoffs are still fun and fidget-friendly. A lot of people do the same thing, buying both the real and the fake versions. You'd be surprised to see how many do that. Thanks!
I know u get a ton of push back but I really appreciate ur channel and take. I'm raisin a family amd putting kids thru university I dont have 300$ for a pocket knife. Just want a couple good knives without taking a second mortgage. Can nvr find the good ones u find. Ppl say bm r over priced but cr?!?
Thanks man. Take a look at ok-knives.net. That's not an affiliate link or anything, I don't get anything from them. But they've been around a long time doing this & have some of the most reliable good quality clones. Very easy to find what you want too. On Aliexpress, Jufule and Green Thorn are probably the best quality. Feel free to reach out if I can help. 👍
@@BladesOnABudget My knife buddy has one. Fit and finish are great, the action is very good - however the big difference is that the originals have washers with extremely small tolerances and are glass smooth, the clones have (good) bearings. He is not sure if the steel is M390 or D2 and I haven't seen this tested yet.
That fact that you review clones and give them a favorable review tells me that you have never created anything in your life. Giving any credibility to people/company that shamelessly copy others hard work and innovation makes you as despicable as the cloners.
What you're proving is how overpriced Spyderco knives really are. These so-called high-end knife companies better wake up because better and better clones are popping up on the internet every day.
Maybe. But I’m not so sure that the people who want to buy these cheap knockoff versions were really going to buy the real thing. And I've talked to a lot of people who were never interested in the real Spydercos until they tried one of these clones and discovered how good they feel. These have turned a lot of people into buyers of the real knives. It’s definitely an interesting question.
That's about $50 USD. So you're probably going to get a much better quality version - especially with the titanium. I've got several nice titanium versions coming up for review here shortly. Some are very nice! Let us know if you like it!
Basically identical? Yeah sure, the steel is garbage, if it even has a heat treat which they rarely do, the heat treat is always garbage, the g10 is typically garbage, the internals are typically garbage as well, i seen some of the best Spyderco clones, and there all garbage, with spyderco your paying for the steel and the heat treat, which is second to none, and regardless of what excuses you make, you showing these is vile, not only are you screwing spyderco, but your screwing America, people like you make the theft of American products possible, thanks so much for that, but your worse aren't you, you go online and talk about how great it is when it's obvious you know nothing about knives, steel, heat treats, or anything else, and you going online and taking about how great a deal out is absolutely does make others buy it, and it's not d2 you clown, it's Chinese d2, which means it's pot steel usually,i am definitely hitting the "do not recommend this channel again" button, people like you make it possible for China to screw us in every way, but you make excuses and call us haters
All they had to do was name it something completely something else. It would still he a clone, but better than copying or rather attempting to exactly 1:1
I very much doubt it’s D2 steel. Probably no name “stainless steel” or “surgical steel”. Basically mystery metal that was, more than likely, melted down from scrap found in a junk yard.
It is hard to know for sure. But some of the companies like OK-knives have been around for many years now, and have had buyers send their knives out for testing to confirm. So it really depends on where you're buying from. With a "no name" company on Aliexpress or temu, you could be getting anything. There's a good YT channel "Luv Them Knives" that tests these kinds of knives. Very interesting!
Sir, that is an illegal product you are endorsing. If they'd label it as 'replica' or something along those lines it would be fine, but the way it stands it is a crime and the Chinese are not 'allowed to make these'. It's crap like this that makes me nervous to buy any Spydercos off the secondary market, this is poison.
These are essentially gas station knives with a skin. My advice to anyone watching would be buy a cheap chinese knife if you want a cheap chinese knife, theres plenty of companys that put the cost towards making a better knife as opposed to copying a design. Miguron, sencut, vosteed, petrified fish, to name a few. It might not help this dudes channel (and potential affiliations to these shady companies) but your fingers will thank you later when you still have them all.
I don't disagree with you at all. There are a ton of really great knives in this price range that are not knockoffs and have much better quality. If someone wants a "real" knife that they can trust, they SHOULD buy those quality brands instead of these cheap knockoffs. 👍
So glad I found this channel. I started out my knife journey with counterfeit knives to. They are a good way to try out different knives without breaking the bank. I now have 11 real Spyderco knives thanks to these counterfeits. I have probably have over 40 counterfeits with different levels of quality. One thing to keep in my with the lower end counterfets is the sellers will tell you the real steel is D2, it rarely if ever is D2. Simple way to test for D2 is put a drop of mustard on the blade for a few hours, if it it real D2 you will have a permanent stain where the mustard is. Every single spyderco counterfeit I have is some sort of stainless, probably 3Cr or 5Cr at best.
Thanks for the tip! There are some sellers that are using D2 & 9CR18MOV (stainless) - both decent steels. And there are others (LOTS) with truly CRAPPY steel! There are some good channels like "Luv Them Knives" that do a lot of steel testing from different sources to see what's "real" & what's not so good. But this game is always a crap shoot - never know what you'll get! Thanks!
Interesting. Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, it appears that Spyderco has discontinued this line & I can’t seem to find any available online. But thanks anyway for the suggestion. 👍
A lot of people seem to think so. I know I’m not getting the full quality and great steel that the real ones have. But I can live with that to have a little fun at 10% of the price. 🤷♂️
This is true. Thanks for pointing it out. I’m pretty sure they’re selling knives that are made in many of the same Chinese factories. But the fact that they’ve been around for so long suggests that they are mostly selling the higher quality clones and knockoffs. The knives I’ve gotten from them have all been higher quality than the Temu knives. Thanks!
@@BladesOnABudget I have a theory as well , I think it is actually a UK company doing the mfging that is why the quality is a step above most other knock -offs.
I agree on all points. Today D2 is common and inexpensive, but it wasn't long ago that it was considered a premium steel and was a little pricey. Personally, I like D2 for its edge holding ability at a very low price.
