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Thanks. Some of us are waiting patiently for a 4- wheeled version of the Aptera. We remain unconvinced about the real world performance of a 3-wheeler when it encounters potholes, raised covers, 'traffic calming' bumps, and debris which a 4-wheeled vehicle in front of it would straddle with ease. And in some parts of Britain, many rural lanes have a high camber and even a line of undergrowth down the centre which cannot be avoided by that rear wheel.
Hood and dash solar output using maxeon cell data is: dash: 20cells in series gives 12.5v. Times 6amps just 1 string gives 75watts hood: 30 cells in series gives 18.8v. Times 6amps just 1 string gives 112watts Thats 187watts total possible, so why are they only getting 43 watts which is about 20% of the maximum possible. It appears to be a sunny day..........can anyone explain, how about the guy who did the video was it fully sunny day?
During this test run, its full sun in abu dhabi, some pollutants in the air not perfect sky, but still it is full sun no clouds. Only the hood and dash were producing solar, configured that way. At the 5min 40mark it says 4 miles/day being produced from solar, thats in full sun. We can also see a bit later, still in full sun, hood and dash making 43watts giving 2 miles/day from solar to the range. So you have to ask yourself............in full sun why are these numbers so rediculously low? Seems we have a problem housten.
While i have been an investor for a few years and a reservation holder for even longer. Im pretty sad that these people will get their cars before those of us with more investment and time, will get ours. I think that is a kind of slap in the face for those waiting 3+ years that these 50 people jump to the front of the line..........................
This car is made stupid to sell stupid, because there are no mechanical control buttons, music, climate control and all that, control is from a touch screen. Fortunately, natural selection and Darwinian evolution have not been cancelled - every time a dumb person needs to take their eyes off the road and look at the screen to adjust something, for example, music - the chance that the dumb person will get into an accident and remain crippled, unable to pee without outside help for the rest of his life increases. And smart people buy cars without dumb touch screens, but with human mechanical buttons and they do not need to take their eyes off the road to change the music, temp and the chance of an accident is less.
Autonomous still has a little way to go I would say. The world is still looking at the results and responsibilities. And having seen incidents like this, futurism.com/the-byte/footage-self-driving-tesla-train, I sense my thoughts are relevant. Alters are here at the right time. There is much to had by such a car.
@Supercarbaldie_official you talk like you have any knowledge at all but clearly you're an idiot. My car drives me everywhere everyday. You cannot purchase an aptera they have like 5 prototypes lol
Say, if they have one in Abu Dhabi, that should let them test how much power the solar panels can provide in that heat. Solar panels usually work best at 77 degrees and drop with every degree above that. Tomorrow will be 100 ambient in Abu Dhabi (and it's only May). Actually, the surface of the vehicle is likely to reach a much higher temperature. Roof solar is installed with room for air flow beneath the panels but that can't be the case with these vehicles. I've seen estimates of over 200 degrees even in more average sun, and most solar panels give up at 185. The Aptera engineers must have thought of this but did they do anything or just ignore it? They should be doing some testing in Abu Dhabi.
Already an investor and am putting in another 2000 to get my 1000 off, but of course most importantly waiting for my car! Can't wait! Thank you Abu Dhabi!
How much of that 65 km will be eaten up by air conditioning? There's lots of sun in Abu Dhabi for charging; but, that it's going to be really hot too! When you were giving the vehicle a trial, did you try filling the rear tire with air? It's supposed to be possible but I'd like to see if an ordinary person can do it.
It’s a good point on the air conditioning. Though I will say that modern units are pretty efficient, but to add the car is built in California where heat can be almost similar to the Middle East. But nevertheless great question. And the wheels all three have an easy system to remove the covers for pressure and off course checking brakes etc.
@@Supercarbaldie_official About that rear wheel. I've seen videos where the cover has been removed, and a rendering video with a flap for air. But those ideas are fine for a mechanic or even a young man who doesn't mind getting dirty. But I still can't imagine most ordinary customers wanting to do that, especially older drivers, women, and anyone in business work clothes or better. It's because of this unique wide tail with a wheel in the middle that you appear to have to get under.
@@BeerStein it is not as bad as you make it sound. However, in a world full of critics have you ever had the absolute perfect car. Checking oils, topping fluids, four sets of brakes and on. There is always something a little uncomfortable to do, and always some nice people to assist if you don’t want to do it.
@marquise32 AND not only in the movie Star Trek released in 2009 but now in the movie Atlas released in 2024 featuring Jennifer Lopez. The flying Aptera is at 1:42. The Aptera is parked on the street at 8:28 and again at 8:29.
Aptera should build in sunny Florida. We need manufacturing jobs and this is the perfect place to make sales. At the same time, if you're not offering jobs, you're probably not interested in making us customers. #Aptera
@@Gargamoth I worked for a startup in California. We spent a lot of time looking for a better place to move to, and in the end, all things considered, we found out that this is a myth. This is one of the reasons you see so many startups in California.
Are non-compete clauses legal and enforceable in Florida? Yes? That's one reason why founders like California: you can immediately pull in talented engineers experienced with similar systems from competing firms. Once Aptera is fully established and turning a profit, they might consider moving elsewhere. And n.brucenelson5920 is right: the grass isn't always greener on the other side of the state line, "all things considered". (But if and when it is, I'm sure Aptera's board will consider it, if it wouldn't be too much of a distraction for the company)
Love this vehicle! But come on they would not let you go faster than that. On a race track we all want to see it slide a little. At least faster than my grandma drives.
This is still a prototype and will likely be giving many rides. The production intent validation vehicles will be showing off what they can do in a few months. My wife and I have both ridden in an earlier prototype, and the acceleration FAR exceeds that of our present car. It is a BLAST to ride in. 0-60 is faster than the original Tesla Roadster.
I know what you mean. However, there are times, and I know this as I instruct here, that speed is somewhat restricted by the circuit. Maybe next time and @chris will be setting a solar car record at yas. 😄
The Aptera is a failed concept. The problem is there is no demand. Another problem is interest rate dot plot. Many car manufacturers are about to go out of business, like Polestar and Lucid technologies. Not a great time to try to relaunch your failed project. Horrible timing
I agree about the timing. However Aptera is doing a better job of managing their money than Tesla did at the beginning and the demand, as measured by paid preorders, FAR stronger than for the first Tesla.
@@n.brucenelson5920 yeah, but Aptera can’t compare itself to Tesla. That’s a different era. The first wave of evehicles has already arrived, and Aptera has missed that boat - and is trying to launch on the back of the initial wave of buyers on a pull-back in ev demand curve, and heading into interest rate “higher for longer” scenario. Bad timing all around.
@@JamesJacobson-ov4ps I don't see Aptera comparing themselves to Tesla, but I can. I worked across the street from Tesla in 2008, and have also seen the Aptera factory. Tesla had FAR less demand for the Roadster, and didn't do nearly as good a job as Aptera has in managing their resources. The need for a more efficient vehicle for couples and singles has not gone away and no one else has stepped in with an alternative.
@@JamesJacobson-ov4ps I was inclined to believe that too until I heard that they only need to sell 6,000 to break even. They're so much less complicated and expensive to build than a typical car like a Tesla that they can only cater to a niche market, never reach mainstream, never reach Tesla numbers, and still be a profitable, successful company. 6,000 is not a hard number to reach in a niche market in a globalized world. That was what made me hopeful aptera would stick around this time as long as they secured funding, which they have. I'm not saying it's impossible to fail, but I want one of these and I think I'll be able to get one eventually.
I sent them an email asking just that... and also if we could self install them. Would be fantastic to just slide the old ones out and the new ones in. From the diagram in this video it looks like perhaps that could be the case. I read that they are very pro right to repair folks, so I've got my hopes up! ... though still have yet to get a reply.
00:50 What is this "real meaningful range" then? No data has ever been published so I've been left to make my own estimates. I'd say that 6 miles a day is the upper limit.
If to run on solar Alone, I am to believe a full day in the sun, which let’s say is 8 hours, will give up to 40 miles but that would be driving conservatively. So the more you decrease the hours in the sun obviously the more likely you use electrical charging.
IF "full solar" (solar on hood, dashboard, roof and hatch) and in a very sunny location in the summer time and vehicle is oriented properly, Aptera should be able to collect on the order of 4 kw-hours of energy from the solar panels in a single day. IF Aptera can, indeed, get on the order of 1 mile per 0.1 kw-hours of energy at a reasonable speed (on the flats), it should be able to travel on the order of 40 miles ((4kw-hours)/(0.1 kw-hour/mile) = 40 miles).
@@alainchuzel8341 There sure are a lot of caveats to the ~40 solar miles per day thing! I'm pretty sure most Aptera owner's will be disappointed with the solar miles that they actually get....
@@johnreeves7261 Most Aptera owners will understand what "up to" means. Many of us who are early adopters have the engineering background to calculate our own expectations.
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Did I hear Chris correctly? Did he say towards the end, that the solar can give 1600 kilometers per year of solar charging? Should he have said 23,000 kilometers? Not a good thing to say to a possible investor.
Not sure what an accurate number would be but it would be much lower than 23,000 km. They have always said that the Aptera will get UP TO 64 km per day. So on an ideal sunny day on the longest days of the year. During the shorter days and cloudy days it will get less which will vary by location so it's going to be hard to generalize.
'1,000 liters of interior space' makes me suspicious because that is such a big round number & 'lots of cameras'? i thought there are only 5 (a few). i'm excited to learn what the stopping distance is because aptera is so extreme
Yes the space is huge. If I had some golf bags or similar I would have placed them to show that size. I could have put four side by side in there. And stopping distance I am not sure of, however, electric vehicle motors in general do have a high engine braking when releasing the gas. Have you ever had to cruise behind an electric car and wondered why he slows without brake lights quicker that you with them.
Driving a nice, comfortable and quiet Kia Niro EV (while I wait for the Aptera to get to Europe!) I wonder if the Aptera will be properly noise-treated in the cabin. A comfortable suspension and low noise inside the cabin are really important for an EV
This particular model had no aircon fitted. So, the windows were open. But yes, it will be a silent running car. When you think that the coiffience of the body is .13 compared to that of F1 at .7 then this should be hugely silent in the cabin. Hope that you see your Aptera soon!
Chris McCammon should have said Aptera generated 10 Wh instead of 10 W. Am I wrong? And btw, he should also said that is equivalent to one mile free energy from the shaded sun.
You are wrong. At the instant in time he was speaking Aptera's hood and dash solar, in total, were generating/producing 10 watts of POWER. If the 10 watts stayed continuous for 1 hour it would have generated/produced 10 watts x 1 hour = 10 watt-hours of ENERGY. As Aptera is purported to consume 100 watt-hours of ENERGY per mile of travel (at likely ~50 miles per hour) it would have been able to only travel about 1/10th of a mile.
Thank you for the first Aptera video out of Abu Dhabi and that beautiful race track facility! Aptera looks very good there and I hope you enjoyed seeing it first hand.
In the current design there is an internal radiator fed with air drawn in at the base of the windscreen and exhausted through the rear panel on the tail. There is also skin cooling through the belly pan. The plan is for skin cooling to take over more of the thermal management as the design is perfected.
The HVAC system is cooled by a conventional condenser that is cooled by fan driven air that comes in under the windshield. There are two separate cooling loops that run antifreeze -a high temp on for the motors and inverters, and a lower temp one for the battery pack that the HVAC system can assist.
