Agree except the Minato One 🙌 Minato is not even close to Madara in Raw speed 😂 Raikage who is massively faster than Minato without FTG couldn't even get the job done.
You know Madara is that much of a threat when even most of the eras of 5 kage cannot even stand up to him. That's even a 1 vs 5 of the greatest powerful Shinobi's of there era. It shows how powerful hashirama is when it takes only him to beat him he does not even need the other 4 kages. Also, it shows how powerful the 2nd raikage is that gingaku and kingaku not one of them became raikage yet they are so powerful that 4th raikage himself said he could not beat them. Yet, 20 of gingaku and kingaku forces beat Tobirama and that was not even gingaku and kingaku themselves that beat Tobirama. To add onto that gingaku and kingaku survived a fight against both Tobirama and the 2nd raikage when they ambushed their meeting and lived. Showering that both Tobirama and the 2nd raikage could not be Gingaku and Kingaku in a fight. Yet, Tobirama died to there henchmen/troops of the Gingaku force. The 2nd raikage is above 4th raikage in power. But, definitely not above the 3rd raikage in power. So, the 2nd raikage is in the middle in power. Just as to put it in perspective the 1st hokage is above the 2nd hokage but the 3rd hokage is above the 2nd hokage and maybe even the first hokage when the 3rd hokage was in his prime.
Great vid, loved the watch. One thing I wanted to note is the reaper death seal for minato. I think it is possible that it’s strong enough to pierce the reaper death seal, it would seal away madara and only minato would die. He wouldn’t even need to teleport allies away first like tobirama self sacrifice, so they could continue to support, and we know for a fact he is willing to use it when times are dire, and an edo madara that’s been casually dog walking like a quarter of the shinobi world mostly solo would definitely fit the bill I think
I was fully with you until you referred to the Minato rasengan vs TBB, due to that happening in the mind-scape. The entire fight is an internal chakra battle, similar to Naruto vs Kurama.
Whats stop madara from uses his Reality warping powers rewrite his body and winning 10 out of 10 times on everyone but the first ? People some how forget izanagi is something he can uses come back the uses perfect susanoo .
i think it really goes to show just how much hashirama is above literally everyone in the verse (not including 6 paths characters). Like, Even Minato's generation, who is undoubtedly the third strongest hogake of all time (behind naruto and hashirama), doesn't really stand a chance against hashirama's rival, who by all means was weaker than hashirama even after getting a rinnegan. He is also the same guy who was absolutely dogging madara AND the nine tails at the same time while not even really trying, seeing as he only went to killing as an option after HOURS of fighting against someone who can reverse time. It's actually crazy
Small nitpick, The number of tales does not correlate with the strength of the tailed beast. The only fact that we know is that the nine tails is the strongest and the eight tails is the second strongest. The rest of them are up in the air.
The 2nd Hokage created Edo Tensi and would hatch a plan to rewrite the tag in his head or use another of the built-in features. His super speed would definitely help him install the new tag.
Hashirama and Hiruzen know fuinjutsu though. Tobirama probably does too, the man created some crazy jutsu and that 4 kage seal they showcased in the war, chances are that he also has fuinjutsu strong enough to seal an edotensei. Shit, the man created the damn jutsu, so he should have/figure out a way of undoing it.
I just wanted to say this: using the Novels to power scale Kakashi that high up it's just not reasonable with the story we know whatsoever. If the scales you use according to the novels were correct, by ANBU Kakashi being stronger than Mangekyo Fugaku, then Kakashi would be as strong as Pain and probably stronger than Hiruzen, Orochimaru and Jiraya at that time, which makes no sense at all. People need to stop using these novels to do powerscalling.
In order to have Deidara defeated, Sasuke had to give almost all he had in their fight, and still needed to retreat using the Reverse Summon on Manda. Sasuke had the Complete dominance over the Curse Mark and had Orochimaru absorbed, which granted him a lot of extra Chakra, plus the mastery over the Raiton/Lighting Style which was what gave Sasuke the capacity to counter the C4 Karura in the first place. I don't think Kakashi, despite having Raiton, has the same mastery over it as Hebi Sasuke in order to counter Deidaras explosions. Plus, Sasuke had to use all his current Sharingan prowess and rebember that Kakashi only has 1 Left Eye Sharingan and a fraction of the chakra pool needed to use it in comparasion to Sasuke. Basically Sasuke had all the tools he needed to defeat Deidara and it still took him a lot of effort to do so. I honestly don't see Kakashi defeating Deidara with only Chidori/Raikiri and Shadow Clone, and even if we give ANBU Kakashi the Long Streak Kamui, still it doesn't matter. Deidara wins.
Madara defeated by plot armor man Madara could have pulled up the izanagi any time to win against hasirama the rest don't stand a chance but if he had killed hasirama who was he going to fight we know the Ghost of the Uchiha enjoyed tough battles and hated weak fights and only madara could fight hasirama and hasirama was the only one that could fight madara
It's been stated, Izuna, Madara and Tobirama were all the same strength... edo madara being nerfed means Tobirama is stronger, plus Tobirama has experience fighting Madara's eternal full bodied susanoo and survived... he'll handle madara
Hiruzen has sealing he literally died using it or does the reaper death seal not count I mean the man learned every jutsu of the leaf he has sealing jutsu
Madara was also significantly more powerful than he was when he was alive, and heavily modified. He knew Jutsu he didn't in life. He had power boosts he didn't in life. He had unlimited chakra. He had the Rinnegan. The Had access to Sage Chakra. He had access the Wood Style. He was fundamentally immortal. If a living Madara was fighting in most of these scenarios, he would do damage sure, but he would die in most of them.
