For some reason i cannot get the pin that holds the trigger bar to the trigger to move at all. (the one that comes installed sticking out halfway) i tryed using my punch hammer and it will not budge. I punched it completely out and tried reinserting it and it will only go to where they had it installed. Im assuming its a QC issue.
Although the PRP kit reduced pull weight noticeably, it ELONGATED the reset. Overall, it's better for single shot accuracy, but not for speed. Too bad. This is on my 2022 XDM Elite 5.25 9mm.
If anyone has a problem with the reset and that trigger do not release the striker in one per 3-4 uses: I replaced before my lower to L size and it seems, it was adding additional pressure to the trigger assembly side plate, which was preventing this plate to pop up at reset point and stuck a little. When returned to original, stock lower, everything works perfectly. I will try later to grind down this plastic part of this L lower...
So this kit works just by lightening the springs? I’m trying to understand what’s all involved in making this a lighter pull Is there anything else that could by honed or polished to further decrease the pull weight?
Just yesterday I've installed the spring kit. Dunno about lbs, but in kilos - trigger dropped from 2.35 to 1.7 kg. Stock trigger on mine was very tough, even to the point i got problems shooting consistent 10 round groups at 25m. Now it works great. To change the spring set took me about an hour, watching video instructions few time. Sear set was tricky, but real struggle was to get a striker spring changed. My echelon got about 2,5 thousand rounds through it before, but it is very tightly fitted. But overall, PRP spring set gets the job done, today I've put 200 rounds to check if it works correctly, and it feels amazing, but still maintains that duty style. I highly recommend it.
I installed this and tested today. Trigger is great. But I’m having an issue where my slide is now locking fully back after every other round. Anybody know what might be the problem and where I may have messed up during install? It’s not my grip or ammo, as I’ve shouted 1k+ rounds prior to install without any issues.
UPDATE - the slide stop lever spring fell out during disassembly. To anyone watching this, when removing the slide stop lever, ensure that you don’t lose lever spring. It’s a small spring and the video doesn’t mention that the spring can come off the lever. It’s a very small spring attached to the lever.
Just finished my install. Took about 2 hours. 45 of those minutes were spent unable to move the trigger bar screw on the trigger shoe. I called PRP, Daniel picked up and talked me through using a vise for it and it was a breeze. Pretty awesome to get help immediately during the process. Big shout out to Daniel and PRP. I’m loving the trigger already and had no issues shooting 200 rounds right after. I used the entire PRP kit. Took over a pound off the trigger pull and the reset is just fine.
Like others, I wasn’t so sure that I wanted to try this either. But, with a bit of extra time and, Daniel’s expert instructions, the install went pretty smoothly. Great feel to the pull now. Thanks PRP!!
THREE WEEKS LATER!!! I too was in the bitch about the reset but it has made me a better shooter. Not sure a new person would dig it. As to hearing the click I can't its tough sometimes and that before hearing pro! This has really upped my focus which has helped my game. And while I would rather take a public spanking in my underwear before taking that CLOG apart again to change back to OEM. But I understand why some folks will.Fast Times and Safe Trails.
Installed the entire kit except the trigger return spring. Reset is indeed about one RCH longer, but not enough to fret about. Getting everything lined up ... sear, safety sear, lifter, disconnect, and those darned springs was a three cup/four cigarette job. Glad I did it. Climbing the wall is just so smooth and effortless and the break is clean. I winged the striker safety spring; directions don't cover it at all. All in all, about three hours and rough on the fingers. In the end, worth it.
I almost passed out watching you take off so many tiny little parts and then putting them back together. I like my Original Factory Echelon trigger tactile reset and with the Powder River Precision Trigger Kit you loose the tactile reset. The tactile reset is more important to me than reducing the trigger pull by 2-3lbs.
I never realized how bad the trigger was until today. Shooting multiple guns (echelon and a custom p80) . It felt like a sponge with unpredictable break.
Old video but I just did this and I must say, bravo. This is the hardest trigger swap I've ever done. My hc pro is new, tight, and the trigger was somehow worse than OEM Glock. Now my trigger is like smooth freshly windexed glass. This is what I needed, to warrant keeping my hellcat and not trading it for a SIG. Thank you guys.
@@j8nkies20 keeping all the parts together while installing was kind of a booger, but I'm a caveman with big hands. Smaller, more dextrous hands should have easy work with this swap. I'm just a knuckle draggin gun guy, if I can do it, you can too. You got this 🤗
@@recreate3204 absolutely no hiccups. Turned my HC into a tack driver. Even the range officers made positive commentary about how well I was shooting. "I wish everyone could shoot like that." And I didn't even realize I destroyed the center circle (3 inch circle) of the target. I'm impressed. They were impressed. Best modification I've ever done to ANY gun. Don't hesitate bro, get it and get after it.
Made it look so easy to put back together. I can see myself losing parts and mixing things up already. Might just find a local gunsmith. Great video tho.
To anyone whom doesn't like the reset after installing the powder river trigger kit, instead of using the powder river trigger spring use the OEM trigger spring. Breaks right around 3.75 lbs but with a faster stronger reset
@@lon242 perfect, now continuously breaks at 3.5 lbs and I haven't had one issue with the reset in around 500 rds. I even swapped the springs again a few days ago to just do a trial and sure enough doing bill drills usually the 4th or 5th shot id get a dead trigger, so I swapped back to OEM spring and haven't had the issue since.
Happy to report that this kit works and feels great. I was a bit concerned after reading about reset issues in other comments, but I just went ahead and installed it anyway, dry fired it about a hundred times and shot nearly 300 live rounds without a single issue. Also the longer reset doesn't bother me. I'd recommend taking pictures of the original sear/safety assembly prior to taking everything apart because it's a bit of a pain to put back together and the video doesn't do the best job of showing it in detail.
You guys are amazing for already releasing a new trigger kit. My question is do your new springs effect the reliability of the echelon? Like possible light primer strikes etc? Thank you.
Why does me keep getting stuck after applying sear? The sear seems like its not sitting correctly so when i push down on it, the safty grip just stays stuck. This happened the 3rd time already and honestly im scared 😱
the echelon trigger is already good out the box i dont see the point most people won’t even realize the small creep it has when pulling the trigger cause the reset is short and tactile from the stock trigger
Excellent easy to follow instructions. I installed the spring kit without the trigger shoe and not only did it reduce the factory pretravel, but it brought my stock trigger from 4.5 lbs to exactly 3.5lbs. I couldn’t be happier with the improved performance of my Echelon.
I'll be using this as a defensive firearm and i wanted more pretravel than the replacement trigger shoe offers. If I were using it for competition, I would definitely change the trigger shoe and reduce pretravel even more. For me, it's perfect with just the spring change.
I just installed mine, exactly like this video...I get ZERO click or tactile feel on the reset. The trigger does reset where I can pull it like normal. It just doesn't have an audible / tactile reset. Should I be concerned? I haven't fired the gun yet. I actually took it apart and re installed it twice since I thought I did something wrong. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
I installed this trigger and followed his instructions closely. And passes all functions check. The reset is noticeably longer and soft. But the travel is shorter and break is lighter and more crisp. Also the trigger has issues resseting properly after shooting live rounds and i cannot get it to fail a reset while dry firing the trigger. Any ideas from anyone on the issue? It may sometimes take 3 extra pulls to get the trigger to reset so it can fire again. While sometimes it will reset properly, but by and large it will fail multiple trigger pulls before a reset.
Yup...I'm having the EXACT SAME PROBLEM!!! Installed the PRP Trigger kit (new springs and trigger Shoe) and all function tests and dryfire testing appeared 100% good to go. Went out and shot a USPSA match last weekend without range testing with live ammo first (didn't have time before the match)...maybe 75% of my shots REQUIRED MULTIPLE TRIGGER PULLS to fire a shot!!! Fast forward to several days after the match and just got done doing a teardown and inspection on the pistol, the trigger module, and all trigger parts. Looks like the PRP trigger spring might be too light and not pulling the trigger bar back up into the proper position reliably in order to engage and activate the sear to release the firing pin on each trigger pull. Going to reinstall the original Springfield trigger spring to see if that fixes the problem. Have not had time to call PRP to discuss and with the holidays it will be a week or so before I can range test before my next match. The pistol was working just fine with all the original stock trigger parts. I had shot one USPSA match with it before making any mods and also did some range testing and training, probably shot about 300 rounds before any mods and everything functioned 100% with no problems. I've also modified and built triggers for many other platforms (Glocks, CZs, AR15s, AK47s, etc), so I have a pretty good working knowledge of triggers. While I appreciate the installation video PRP did...I thought they glossed or were too quick on many important points about how to reinstall the Echelon trigger with PRP parts and ensure proper assembly and function. While the internals of the Echelon are new to me, as mentioned above I do have a pretty extensive knowledge of how triggers work and how to disassemble, reassemble, and modify. I had to watch and rewatch the PRP video many, many, times in order to ensure I understood the inter-relationship of all the trigger parts in the Echelon and how to properly assemble. I've also read on many forums where users just gave up after attempting to do the trigger upgrade work themselves and went to a gunsmith to complete the installation...so doing this trigger work is not for the faint of heart!!!
The trigger return spring in this kit sucked, i believe they took it out of the spring kit. I run all the other springs with the factory trigger return spring and so far so good
