I think being able to tele full screen with Motaro is huge for her. Her zoning and space control game is very strong and Motaro allows you to access that whenever you want. Lao does a lot of the same things, but I think Motaro really ties everything together. Both are good though; I've been experimenting with Khameleon too and they seem to synergize as well. It really comes down to preference
I've been his fan from Russia since 2015. I'm trying to find new videos of him playing. does he stream? does he have a RU-vid channel? If there is any information please let me know.
@@Sin-oy1nm Unfortunately, I think a lot of the OG pros just kinda play on the side these days. I ran into SaltFace a couple months ago too, I don't think any of them really stream or play the game consistently anymore :(
You're right, it does jail. I don't know why I didn't think to test that string, thank you bro. The only issue is that if they get shimmied you can't hit confirm just the second hit connecting, but you can definitely use that to check them from trying to press. And the timing isn't as strict as the f4 jail
@@haysan32actually 12 is an os with dragon kick. delay your dragon kick significantly and then it will only come out on hit. very few people jnow about that
Amazing guide. A huge thing you missed was the teleport oki motaro gives after kombos and also the fatal blow where Motaro can be used for faster frames. That also is a huge thing added
@@fernandomolinaamaro1290 Oh okay, I understand what you're talking about, no problem. So you want to time when you use Motaro right before the flying kick animation starts. When you do flying kick, a projectile comes out first. You should be calling Motaro right before you see the projectile on screen
@@joedragonn8126 Ahh okay, I got you. Well if you wanna check out my last video, I played a few KL sets using this team, and I’m uploading another one later today with a few more sets if you wanna see this team in action
You don’t want to teleport until right when the animation for the flying kick is about to start. There will be a slight delay after you input the flying kick before you actually press the teleport button
No problem fam, yeah it's a pretty interesting change but it's a massive buff for this team because before Motaro couldn't get you meterless damage like that. I think it works with Khameleon's fan lift and Lao's tele as well
@@haysan32 I’m laughing because I was present when Sonicfox told Honeybee that cyrax was 200% reptiles best kameo quite a few patches ago and HB kept it going making it lore 😂
I disagree, Motaro gives Liu a lot of utility that other kameos don't. Enhances his zoning and neutral game as well as his pressure, throw combos, free get-in tools, now you have safe armor and meterless punish combos... even if you don't agree with him being his best kameo, AT WORST he's top 3
Video is uploading now, I'll send you the link once it's fully processed. I have more sets recorded as well so I'll be posting another set of matches tomorrow. Thanks again for watching!
Wow ok ok 👍 nice detailed video, u spoke clearly also as to understanding u well ,good video overall 👏 am an ashrah, lei mei player i need to know all these sub zero/lu kan secrets 😅
Imo liu lao is still the best. Sure u work a little harder to win but the mental stack and mind games are still better than motaro. Theres also the anti-throw tech - tech on back grabs.
That's fair, I think the hard-to-blockables are very powerful but in my opinion, Lao doesn't really provide much else. Now that you can launch meterless with flying kick into tele, Lao doesn't have that as an advantage anymore. Lao does give another zoning tool but with Motaro you will control the zoning game anyway. It's also a lot harder to make things safe with Lao's tele than Motaro's. You can close out rounds better with Motaro. They both have pros and cons but I think Motaro's utility is a little bit better than Lao's now, but I wouldn't be mad at anyone saying Lao is still his best. I'd even throw Khameleon in there too, they're his top 3 for sure
@@haysan32 another point is that sure you can control the screen with reflect anyway but in a lot of match ups you can only do BF1 since they can react jump your DB1. Lao provides that guaranteed mental stack that if they get in and low hat is active, they’re getting punished. Furthermore, If im versing liu motaro in comp, im switching to HL, tanya, mileena, lao, even omni man. React armour to F+kameo on motaro is his biggest counterplay. Especially if it launches. I’d be more scared or a liu lao purely of how good I utilize the team. Sure kham is decent but that team adds a gambling aspect to the matchup. Liu lao overall is more safer. Motaro may have better availability but its always not the right choice. Thats the way I see it.
Great guide as always. I've watched your previous stuff here on yt. I hit Elder God with this team seasons ago. U forgot to mention one more added value for this team. Liu now can be safe after his armored move (bf4) coz we can teleport with motaro full screen. Thats actually powerful my guy haha
Yeah I was trying to be careful not to repeat too much from my other guides for this team and I ended up forgetting a couple points I wanted to make for this one lol. But yes, safe armor is huge. Thank you for watching bro, I always appreciate your support and feedback. And I'm glad this team has brought you success
Great guide! But most of the time the oponnent can backdash if you do some string into the low shot and f4. And, for example, you cant jail the f4 on Baraka even if you do it as close as possible on midscreen. S4 into the low shot jails. The db1 to get in is good, but if they just jump back over it at the right time, they will avoid it and punish your teleport... Probably you can react to it and do the far version, i havent checked it. The strongest thing about this team is that you get a safe bf3 anywhere on the screen that does 35+%, thats actually insane. If you do it close you can confirm its one hit to choose the teleport, and if you do it far, the blockstun is enough so the opponent cant punish you. And now you can do onehitconfirms like b2 bf3 and teleport, which is very strong too. Its also a semisafe pokespecial now as well
@@КарлКарыч I appreciate the feedback, thank you for watching! Yes, you’re right, s4 low shot jails. It’s not the most meaningful thing however, because at midscreen he does not have a single follow up against any character that the opponent has to respect because of how far they are pushed back by this sequence. Also, jump back on the low fireball teleport setup does not get you a guaranteed punish. I’ve tested this against Johnny’s jump kick, Scorpion’s jump kick, Shao’s jump 2 with axe… if they time the jump early enough to punish the teleport, the low fireball will still hit them as they land. If they time it too late to try and avoid the fireball, it will not punish
@@haysan32 Thank you as well! If you do 4 into low shot as close as possible, you can jail into b2, atleast against Reptile. With the b2 into now safe bf3 it can be an actual treat. I will test the low fireball thing more, thanks, but if in worst case for them they still get their turn and you have to block the jump attack... Well, atleast you got in. Also i think jailing d3 into 33 is kinda good, because 33 is the only string that cant be interrupted by a jab if you do Motaros shot. Well, Liu himself can interrupt it, and only two other characters, but its not a problem
p.s. b2 into bf3 thing doesnt work after this because Motaro is still recovering. And, even if it is a true jail, sometimes you somehow can make b2 in that situation whiff, releasing block. However, there is still no gap for armor.
@@haysan32 Hmm, i think jumping forward as soon as you see Motaros teleport after the low fireball is a good option too. The close version of teleport leaves you kinda close though, but you cant jail anything, of course
Nice upload mate. Can u do a vid on how to use tremor with reiko. I still havent got that cmd grab into the kameo down yet lol. It was easier with darrius tho
Thanks for the input mate. Ive been dominant with this team as well and to me personally, motaro is liu's best kameo hands down! I'd love to see your ranked matches. Care to upload them?
If you're full screen and you low fireball and time your teleport immediately after, the low fireball will jail the opponent and you'll be able to do an attack before they can move or press. If they try to do anything besides block, they'll get hit and you can get a full combo
@@jasdavesandhu1422 Yeah, if you set the opponent to block always in practice, and then set them to do their armor attack as a reversal, you can practice the timing on when to do the low fireball into teleport so you can jail them
@@jasdavesandhu1422 Motaro doesn't really add any combo potential, he's more of a utility kameo. All your normal BnBs with Liu don't change if you're using Motaro, so you can't really make a combo guide that's specific to this team
@@RawDogger224 I don’t think so, unless they sell in the shop or bring it back in the shrine. Other than that, you have to wait for this season to return
