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Hi. Just set this up and all working. Can you tell me as an electronic drummer I'm currently sending the kit straight to mixer that only leaves control of FH volume with the brain that i can reach. It might be obvious but could you clarify how i get more control on the kit going to FH using the above set. Thanks
On my drum pad, I usually set the on board drum pad volume about 1 o'clock on the dial. I use jack to jack from the drum pad to a DI box, then XLR out of the DI box straight to the FOH mixer. From here you may need a bit of help. You'll have to play the drums at your usual velocity and style and have someone else adjust the gain on the FOH mixer so there's a strong signal but not peaking, and maybe add a compressor for those loud moments. Then you can move the fader up to how loud you need it and also on the master fader for your FOH.
Is there a way to use PVT Boost via footswitch not only in Preset mode as Current Footswitch but also in editor mode? I'd like to use it as a solo boost. If I use the analog Boost - it will only add gain to my drives and not boost the overall volume. What would you do to add volume only boost to the chain?
I tried this setup but why do I also hear the click track (low volume but can be heared when back track is quiet) through the FOH? I have already pan click track to left 100% and backtrack 100% to the right.. I'm confused.
are both the click and backing track being sent to FOH? You should only send the backing track to the FOH and the click track to the In-ear monitors. if its still happening you may need to double check if the backing track is actually panned hard left and right AND another thing if using very cheap mixing desk it may also not be "True stereo"
You'll need to playback the audio using a DAW and use an audio interface with at least 4 outputs. Main output 1 and 2 for the FOH and output 3 and 4 for the monitor mixes
@@chronicironic1358 You'll need to playback the audio using a DAW and use an audio interface with at least 4 outputs. Main output 1 and 2 for the FOH and output 3 and 4 for the monitor mixes
You've fully clipped the audio on the Sennheiser, you can hear the distortion on each hit. Either that or it was knocking on something in the drum - they definitely do not normally sound like that.
I've checked the audio waveforms and the output from the DAW, its definitely not clipped. There is a heavy beater on the drum plus a dampener on the edge of the head, mic is resting on a soft pad/cushion. Could be an anomaly in the upload compression
@@KingdomMediaOnline if you’re using the built in wifi on the mixer it will broadcast its own signal. You’ll have to open up your phone or tablet wifi setting and swap it to the DL16s wifi signal. If using your own external wifi router, naturally that router will have its own unique name which you’ll have to connect to from your devices. The external router needs to connect to the DL16s via Ethernet cable for this to work and there is a bit of pre setup for first time use. After that it works like clockwork. If you run into issues or not sure where to start there is a PDF online for how to use internal or external wifi routers for the DL16s and DL32s
Hi i like the gadget the dist and drive tones are great but i cant use chorus and delay in manual mode. When i activate it the light turns on but i cant hear the effect. Anyone any solution? Thx
@@andichris333 check the level knob for delay on the far left side. If none of it works try doing a factory reset and then install the latest firmware for it.
I use the handlebar method, can coil in seconds. You put your arm up like you're holding onto a train handle, hold the end of the cable in your hand, and wrap the cable from under your elbow and back to your hand, continue.
@@helgenx yes i know the method you’re talking about but it can actually do more damage to cables. But if it works for you and your cables are still working by all means go for it 😊
I have 2 of these on my 2 boards , i was not concerned with it's packing as it was so cheap , i have no problem with the power supply lead as i charge at home after a gig or i do have a charger with me just in case ,i run all the out puts and a further 3 daisy chained and have found absolutly no problems at all , this item is a god send and i would not hesitate to recommend to 90% of users , only very high end strymon type pedal users may have a problem if they have a few pedals drawing power at the same time but as i dont use them that is really a guess , on amazon i payed less than £50 each and they work as well as my friedman which was a LOT more expensive and is so large it takes up 2 and a bit pedal spaces on my board
Yep you can do that but if you run into humming and buzzing from grounding issues that’s where the DI comes in. Or maybe you need a secondary output using the THRU output to a stream or record or individual monitoring from the musician. Bring a spare DI to gigs but you don’t always need to use them.
with the second method, can't i just add the backing track + click to the red cable so i plug it directly into the small mixer and the black one with just the track to the house mixer or is the di fully needed? i used to play with a dude that had everything set up so i'm kinda lost
Yea you can go directly to the desk. The DI just allows you to add a a secondary output using the THRU output and it also lets you use the GRND/LIFT switch to remove buzzing or humming coming from the laptop if it’s charging.
What I still do not understand is how the signal from the mixer reaches all musicians? Is there an output for each musician on the mixer? I use a Presonus mixer that I operate with a MacBook. There I have the control of all mixes from each musician.
Use the AUX sends. Note, some smaller and cheaper mixers do not have an aux send. If your mixer has an aux send then each channel will have a knob that says AUX. The mixer will also have an AUX output commonly a jack output and sometimes an XLR output on higher end mixers. Use the AUX output to send to your other musicians through a cable to your IEMs, headphone preamps/splitter or stage monitors. Hope that helps
Yes still using it as my main personal mixer, and sometimes switch it up with a basic analog mixer like Soundcraft or Mackie depending on the bar/club I'm in. At one of the larger clubs I play in they have a Allen & Heath Qu24 which we use.
Yes it would be and everything in this video is mono. But ask yourself these questions if considering stereo... - Does the audience care? - Does stereo improve the performance or sound? - Does the bar/club mixer or your own mixer support enough channels to run stereo? - running stereo will only one side of the club/bar hear some of the backing track? Check out Nick DeLaCruz where he interviews sound engineers for MASSIVE shows like Rammstein, Fallout boy, Disturbed etc. Almost every engineer says they pan mostly up to 10 and 2 o'clock because they don't want audience on one side unable to hear the other. youtube.com/@thisisdelacruz?si=gBkmEanjx0uVfxhN But then again stereo is pretty cool and if you can do it and you feel its more your thing then go for it. You'll have to use an audio interface with 4 outputs (2x for FOH and 2x for IEMs) in order to get the stereo effect and you'll have to run your tracks through a DAW
As a microphone comparison video this seemed useless to me. Hearing all of the pickup settings back to back through a single mic compares the pickup settings not the mics. It would have been more useful to hear Mic vs Mic back-to back on a "per pickup settings" basis. The way you did it just sounds like a few kids in the garage. Unuseful.
@@jjhdayo Right on - I appreciate that! Also, I should temper my criticism - it's a good overall test you devised to be sure, thanks for your follow up! I have read even further in the comments and I see now that my sentiment is a reflection of others' feedback, too. Enjoy!
Excellent video, thanks! Is it normal for there to be some crosstalk when the backing track is panned hard to the left and the click is panned hard to the right? I can hear a low volume of the backing track on the channel of the click.
No usually. This depends on the quality of the hardware you are using. For example in my Mackie DL16s i have true stereo when panned hard left and right. Whereas my Phenyx Pro PTM-10 IEM system is 93% stereo separation so I get a tiny bit of bleed from the opposite sides that are panned. If you are experiencing this issue always go back to the source to see if it is truly panned left and right. Its usually a hardware issue. Then work your way through the signal flow/chain one at a time to see where the issue lies.
Just a couple seconds of the three tests was all I needed. The moment I heard the second take I knew it's the Shure and it blows the Behringer out of the water unfortunately. So much more defined, clear, airy yet smooth and without that weird grainy quality the BA85A has that makes it sound almost lo-fi. I own and love a lot of Behringer stuff (BA18A, SL75C, XM8500, used to have a UMC202HD interface and some other stuff) but they didn't hit on this one I'm afraid, even EQ didn't help it too much. Regarding the video itself, the blind test was perfect - well recorded, time stamped, good performances. That's exactly how it should be done, so huge thanks for that!
I still love my shure mics, owned one for 10 years still going strong. Behringer will suit someone looking to get into music or even a kid vocalist, or their parents who arent too "Shure" about buying an industry standard vs a entry level. Thank you for your feedback and describing what you can hear. It will help others in the comments section too =)
Yes that will work too. The DI are optional if you want to ground the signal using the GRND/LIFT switch and if you also want to use the THRU output to send the signal elsewhere like another musician or audio interface
Its been a long time since I used the G4 and don't own one currently to compare with the PTM-10, however I've been pretty happy with the bass response on it, but that also comes down to what earphones you're using? Single driver? dual driver? 4 drivers?! are the drivers crossed over? they will make a big difference as well.
Is this really an isolated power supply ? As far as i know, the first issue with cheap power supplies is thath they say they are isolated, but in reality, they are just a daisy chain in a box. Daisy chains can be noisy. The second thing that may cause some noise, is mounting the power supply under effect pedals or cables, because the power supply generates an electric field that interfiers. As i know switch power supplies doesn't have this problem, because they use different technology. Does this pedal have this issue ? Im asking because i want to build a pedalboard and i want a good PS from the start, but i don't want to spend a fortune on a power supply, if it is not necessary. So my second question is, what is the downside of this PS, compared to the expenesive and more well known ones ? And if nothing, what is the point of buying them at an unreasonably high price, not knowing the existence of this affordable option ?
According to the label and manual it is isolated... however I dont think it is fully. I know there layout and design shows some of the outputs positioned into groups so I wonder if the title isolated is kind of misleading to those groups only. I have used this for so long now and pretty happy with the sound. Sometimes I may hear some noise but that's mainly due to one setup I had where there was a lot of high gain and volume. But for the most part its pretty quiet. Just be sure to run your digital FX separate to your analog FX within the groups on the power supply. In short, you get what you pay for, in this case I feel like I lucked out and got a pretty reasonable priced power supply that not only provides power for my pedals but also has a USB charge port AND built in battery to run on its own charge. If you are worried about noise then definitely go for a more expensive one with the trade off being possibly less outputs, no USB and no recharge capability. Is there a way you can take your pedalboard rig into a music store and try our the power supply?
It's not isolated and was noisy as hell with some of my pedals in the chain, but I added a couple of Joyo ZGP isolators to my noisier digital pedals and now no noise issues at all.
These are absolute trash do not buy them. I bought two both broke under 2 months. One pair stopped charging completly. The second pair had connectivity issues between the modules. Basically both worked but not together and then the right pair stopped connecting to any device. Honestly better to save up and get a good pair of BT headphones.
Awesome! Thanks so much!! Are you able to tell me what model of roadcase you are using? Also, how do you get your wifi signal? Is it throught the venue that you are performing at?
Im not too sure what brand the case is. I bought it from here: www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketplace/music-instruments/pa-pro-audio-dj-equipment/rack-gear/listing/4687746613?bof=aVlDeJFV Im actually thinking of getting another one but more of a shallow rack case (not soo deep). Only because Im planning of creating a new setup, but still pretty happy with my case. I use my own external wifi router. It doesnt need internet and neither does the built in router inside the DL16s. The wifi routers only broadcasts the information and connection between the mixer and the tablets/phone for the app. There is no need to use Internet. If there is exisiting wifi in the venue just make sure your tablets are connected to the DL16s wifi or your own external router. Mackie also a free PDF doc with tutorials on how to set this all up if you get a bit stuck
Sure thing. Im from Christchurch, New Zealand, population close to 400,000 people. Use in bars and clubs small as 50 people all the way up to 500+ I play in a band called house of groove. To get an idea of the club size check out the video in some of them you can see the audience are packed in shoulder to shoulder. Have used the PTM-10 along side other wireless IEM systems as wireless 2.4GHz devices and 5Ghz. Hope that helps
Good question. It's more for "what if..." for example let's say you don't have enough small mixers or pre amps but want to send the click signal elsewhere on stage. Having the click sent to the main FOH mixer doesnt mean you have to use it but it could be re-routed elsewhere. One example could be if you were recording live performance into a multichannel interface. You then have a click track to help sync up any post mixing and production in your DAW. In short, you don't need to if you have enough equipment on stage for everyone to hear the click. The FOH mixer is just an additional source of audio if needed.
I'm so happy to have found this solution to my problem. Since moving home I'm no longer able to afford to play my guitar and backing tracks through my pa system 1000 Watts. For obvious reasons it's bloody loud. I want to be able to Play along to my 90 minute backing track and to hear the sound from my amp. Since my amp has a headphone output which isn't amplified it will be going into this box along side my backing track which will be played through from my phone using a USB c to 3.5 mm mini jack. The sound from my amp will be from a quarter inch jack to xlr cable and I'm hoping that I will get a decent sound through the headphones. My rig has all the effects going through the effects loop in the amp which goes to the headphone output thankfully. I ordered the ma400 tonight for delivery tomorrow. So fingers crossed. Thanks for making this video it's helped me tremendously.
No worries, thanks for the comment. If you find that you need more channels to work with then a small mixer with 3+ channel strips will also do the same thing and give you more room to work with in terms of routing, EQ, and if its USB compatible, recording direct to your DAW.
I thought the blend pot was for mixing the drive signal with a clean signal...no mention of it in instructions being for eq...says it's for blending in Drive signal with clean eq'd or non-eq'd signal...depending on toggle switch's positions..i like the MLD amp settings,says +/- 12db & +/- 14db etc on eq pots but sounds very subtle so maybe it does mix in some clean signal of your bass with an eq'd signal &/or with the drive pot... depending on the 2 toggle pot positions of course...does many things well..can be used to re-amp, a built in drum machine, 3 amps & 4 cab ir's with more downloadable, a defeatable noise gate & many more features as well as great subtle bass tone shaping with the MLD settings.... works great as a DI box &/or sending your signal to your amp, if using one...neat tones...🎸🎧👍
Your breakdown is amazing,Thank you! We’re on an analogue mixer but I wanna be able to control each Individual band mix coming from the Aux send to my P2 then IEM. Is there a way to do this other than bothering FOH soundie?
Yes you could send the Aux channels to a secondary mixer or several headphone Pre amps (like the MA400 in the video) and have it placed on stage. For example: lets say you have a main FOH mixer with 3 Aux sends. You would need to connect 3 XLR/Jack cables from the main FOH Aux sends and run them to the stage. From there plug each end of the cables into your secondary mixer that also supports 3 Aux sends. You then route those new Aux sends to your band. Alternatively run the Aux sends from the FOH to 3 separate Headphone pre amps on stage and assign those to the band. Only downside is that you will be using a lot of cables and can get messy during setup and pack down. A simpler approach that requires more investment from your wallet is to use a digital wireless mixer that supports Android/iOS tables and phones such as the Mackie DL16s which I have a video on here: PART 1 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vG7KyzVZBtc.html PART 2 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-36oLD8vMETU.html
Hi, Our band used to play live but we are now starting to run backing tracks and click tracks with mono iem. May we know what's your advice on how can we wire it on stage? Here's what we have minus the cables: - Laptop with DAW software for backing and click tracks. - our own mixer - Xtuga IEM12000 How do we do it assuming that you don't have DI box in between the cables. We just want to know how to proceed with the gears we have referencing this video. Thank you!
You can still use the same instructional video as a guide without the DI boxes. Just plug the audio cable from your DAW/audio interface directly into your mixer. You may need to assign the left channel from your DAW to one of the mixer channels and the right channel with the click from your DAW to a separate channel on your mixer. This is so you can assign the backing track and click track to your AUX channels as well as the FOH. Make sure the click track does NOT go to the FOH but you can send the click to one of the AUX channels or multiple AUX channels so your band can hear them in the IEMs. Hope that helps =)
Hi, Our band used to play live but we are now starting to run backing tracks and click tracks with mono iem. May we know what's your advice on how can we wire it on stage? Here's what we have minus the cables: - Laptop with DAW software for backing and click tracks. - our own mixer - Xtuga IEM12000 How do we do it assuming that you don't have DI box in between the cables. We just want to know how to proceed with the gears we have referencing your other video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1bQPqN0sQuA.html Thank you!
You can still use the same instructional video as a guide without the DI boxes. Just plug the audio cable from your DAW/audio interface directly into your mixer. You may need to assign the left channel from your DAW to one of the mixer channels and the right channel with the click from your DAW to a separate channel on your mixer. This is so you can assign the backing track and click track to your AUX channels as well as the FOH. Make sure the click track does NOT go to the FOH but you can send the click to one of the AUX channels or multiple AUX channels so your band can hear them in the IEMs. Hope that helps =)
I work with a band where the guitarist and bassist changes instruments, and i need different settings for each, can you have presets for individual channels or can you only do full shows?
Yes you can store/save and recall presets for each channel OR you can save the overall "Show/scene" for when you change. preset channels work best when each musician needs a specific EQ, Compression, Gain settings but you can also do this with the FX channels. The "Show/Scene" presets/saves work well when there is a large changeover in the band lineup, channel settings, add/remove musicians. An example of this would be when you are hosting an open mic night and need to switch quickly between a duo setup to a band setup. Or if you had to work with 3 bands for a music event, you can name the Show XYZ and then within that stored show you can save 3 different "Snapshots", one for each band with different mixes, settings, EQ, FX etc. This mixer is an absolute game changer and makes setup and pack down easy and quick.
I use as little muffling as possible and don't bury the beater at least 80% of the time. I would be curious on how these would perform on a more open sounding bass drum.
Thank you, this is exactly what I have been looking for. We have P16s set up for personal monitoring, so in this scenario what is that Behringer micro thing for?
I use it for personal monitoring if I want to control the volume of my backing track myself rather than getting the soundie to do it. If Im on drums I usually use the micromon to monitor my own volume settings while the soundie focuses on controlling the volume of other musician's monitoring
