A3 is literally B movie. It has however good look and atmosphere. Not too much of character development for sure. We all know why. If Lynch was let alone he made psychological thriller slips into dark corners of human psychology and then add on top a lot of monster gore horror which will be fantastic. Like this you can see his effort here and there but Fox made him to do not very imaginative movie.
@@alienuniversetimeline3427 yeah but nothing really speaks for A apart from coat. Inners are same as B. It’s dumbed down. To monster killing people without names sort of.
@@alienuniversetimeline3427yeah but nothing really speaks for A apart from coat. Everything is dumbed down like in B. Just monster killing people without names sort of.
@@alienuniversetimeline3427 I obviously did not express myself properly. The creature that kills Ferro is certainly already inside the dropship. But that is not what I meant. As Spunkmeyer runs to the dropship and begins running up the ramp you can see behind him what seems to be a wall (it is a black band, covered in shadows); above this wall or black band there is a narrow strip lit with 'natural light' and with some vertical and diagonal lines, which on reflection probably are mountains. If you look closely at this 'lit' band, you will see something black running above and along it from left to right-this clearly is either an alien or a fantastic blooper. It seems to me that Cameron would have re-shot this scene had it been the latter. Check the link below at 00:05; that is when the alien enters--and exits--the scene. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3Pwx_KFGBPU.html
The assembly cut is, for the most part, a slight improvement over the theatrical cut. It restores the lost scenes with Golic, and expands on the religious aspect of the story. I think featuring an ox as the host for the xenomorph was a little unusual, but it did work.
While alien 3 is my favorite in the franchise 1 and 2 had very strong finales, 3 had very good build up to the chase and bait sequence with dillions speech but the sequence itself is not pretty good it basically becomes black comedy at this point. maybe that’s why happens when you put bald British men in dark corridors with a alien out for blood, the sequence of luring the alien into the led is chef’s kiss
3 was actually the first Alien movie I ever watched. I didn't see Alien or Aliens for years afterwards (I ended up seeing them in reverse release order), and I was always fascinated by how 3 was so... weird and off-putting as a concept. I was more predisposed to like it because I saw it first and was willing to give the other films a chance, but I never quite look at it in the same way I do the first two movies. A3 is the very definition of an "interesting failure". You can see the cinematography, the music, the acting and the setup on-screen, but it never really gels, regardless of what version you're viewing. I was one of the early buyers of the Quadrilogy in '03, and I remember how hyped I was to see what I thought was the "better" version of A3, only to come away with the exact same opinion of the film. It changes a few things around, remixed a few moments and adds a little more context for who and what is happening, but it wasn't the "holy grail" I thought it might be. The fact that it's been lionized by fans over the years as being some amazing, unsung version that would have saved the franchise and kept things going sounds more like cap than anything else.
No one EVER said Alien3 would save the franchise, the Assembly Cut was a far better version of the movie, and it explains quite a lot if you actually look.
Both versions of Alien 3 are very mediocre but it could not be anything but that as they started with a faulty premise. They wanted to get back to its roots. In other words, they wanted to make it like Alien which is instant failure right there. The reason why Aliens was so good was because it evolved from Alien to what it became. Alien 3 wanted to revert back to Alien which means it will automatically be a much much much lesser movie. It never had a chance to be even just good, let alone great. Alien 3 should have evolved from Aliens to maybe become "Aliens Earth...This time it's Armageddon". Maybe not...I'm not a storyteller or movie maker but I know Alien 3 was doomed from its inception.
No Bishop didn't put the egg on the Sulaco... it was piss poor and lazy screen writing and alien 3 fell victim to movie by committee... having a boardroom of college pukes who have no directorial, writing, or artistic skills or vision for that matter, decide the fate of a franchise is criminal. The share holders of FOX should have sued the board. Alien 3 did not break even in the US... I read an article where Cameron and Scott had solid scripts for Alien 3 and 4 where they would trade off as director and produce and they needed 25 million per movie... FOX said that was too much but ended up spending 55 million on the dung heap of Alien 3. The Assembly Cut of A3 is decent as a stand alone movie if you pretend not to know who the characters are. Alien and Aliens are cinematic magic the rest are dung heaps, with the exception of the art direction/designs
Sometimes you just have to accept 3 was a cash grab and given the series history, a 'safe' bet. What followed didn't adhere to continuity. It's a rare IP that can flog itself for money without creating paradoxes and lore conflicts. Lethal Weapon is a good example.
They green lit monks on a wooden planet. Alien 3 was never a cash grab or safe bet. If they wanted that they would have done Aliens Part 2 with bigger Aliens and more guns.
Alien 3's premise is trash from the start. The only way an egg or 2 could end up onboard, is if the queen laid them during the trip up to the Sulaco in the landing gear compartment. And from there, the only story that would make any sense, is if, upon returning to base a flight technician checking the dropship is exposed and infected. The eggs require external movement to prompt their hatching, everyone is in cryo-sleep, so why did it hatch? How was the face hugger able to find the survivors, let alone make it through all the closed doors between the dropship bay and their cryo-tubes?
Good logical reasoning. I was 12 when i saw Alien³. The egg plot-hole was when i first realized that Hollywood is full of unremarkable hacks. Like, how many people were there for filming or viewed that scene at 20th Century Fox before release? Hundreds? Not one hack spoke up and said “that’s dumb,” “that doesn’t make sense,” etc. The William Gibson script had an egg growing out of Bishop - positing that there were spores on the Queens’ tail barb. I mean, that at least makes more sense than just stapling an egg to the *ceiling??*
The Queen pooed out an egg and stuck it to the undercarriage of the dropship before she dropped down and tore Bishop in two. Only way that makes sense. 🐣
There is a lot to like about Alien 3, but there are still too many problems with it. Andrews & Clemens should have lasted until the final sequence instead of some of the nameless prisoners.
Have you thought about making a video about the much debated origin story of the alien in Covenant? Because I think Ridley's intent was pretty clear, but for some reason people are still arguing otherwise.
A synthetic is programmed to do what it has to do. Even if that means lying. Remember Ash's words in Alien about morality and conscience. I like the idea that Bishop planted the egg because it is a cold concept that fits in with the brutal Alien universe
1. Bishop is fascinated with the face hugger he was studying. Defended an order from Berks. 2. He said the venting that would cause a meltdown was.. “From the crash”. Nobody really thought about this and the scene erupted into emotional chaos. Which lead to him doing what he needed to do. Because.. he cut the power
Bit dubious, bishop was told to keep samples for the company labs, but those face huggers where taken by Burke and early part of film they didn't know about eggs.
The queen is bleeding from her torn ovipositor (seen before Queen takes Bishop) its possible bio egg material formed form the leaking egg producing organ after settling in the floor board. That would also make sense why it formed upside down.
There must have been at least two eggs on board of the Sulaco, for two facehuggers. One to infect Ripley with the queen chestburster and one for infecting the dog/bull.
As disgusting as it sounds, I always figured the Queen had time to ovulate on her ride and the egg slowly grew on its own. That's why the egg was shown tilted upside down as that's where it grew when it was expelled from the Queen. I rationalized it as in the absence of the egg sack, eggs were expelled from the Queen prematurely and were extremely vulnerable, but given that everyone was in hyper sleep, it was safe to grow.
A 2nd alien carrying an egg jumped onto the drop ship while it was off of frame. It snuck onto the Sulocco and placed the egg while no one was looking. It then just hid because it was trying to lay low while the Sulocco transited to a new location.
The egg's mysteriously appearance in Alien3 is what annoyed me more than Newt and Hicks getting killed off as it absolutely no sense. The Alien Queen would have had no time to have planted the egg elsewhere on the Sulaco, at least as the events are shown in Aliens, and there is no way Ripley or Bishop would not have checked the hanger bay thoroughly after getting rid of the queen. Also, even if the Queen had somehow managed to sneak an egg into the Sulaco, it could only have been in the cryosleep chamber since it hatches by detecting movement. Since Ripley and the others are completely stationery in cryosleep then the egg would not have hatched until they woke up. The third point is that the face hugger somehow caused an electrical fire that caused the cryosleep pods to be ejected from the Sulaco but how did that happen? The implication is that it was acid from cracking the cryosleep tube to impregnate Ripley but if that was the case then that same acid would also have killed Ripley who was immediately below where the face hugger entered. It was just lazy plot device to drive the plot and was never intended to make any sense because it just doesn't make any sense.
Not really, still doesn't explain how it hatched without nearby exterior movement, how it could hunt down Ripley, while in cryo-sleep, in a different part of the ship; not to mention how did it make it through all the closed doors? The only way the premise for Alien 3 works at all, would be if a flight technician doing a check on the dropship after returning to base stumbles upon them and gets infected.
Bishop had no access to ovomorphs. Only the specimens in the med lab that Burke stole and attempted to impregnate Ripley/newt. So technically bishop would have no access to an ovo to incubate. So without watching this video I’ve answered it for any confused fans. Have a good day.
