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Did I really just hear someone say Harrison Barnes was the best defender on the Kings roster last season?! Bro must not know who Keegan Murray, Keon Ellis, Davion Mitchell, or even _De'Aaron Fox_ are! Hell, Kessler Edwards and Chris Duarte were better defenders than HB despite their very limited playing time. And I say this as a Kings fan that has a ton of respect for Barnes.
Bro gave the spurs an A but the Kings a B 😂😂😂 bro the Kings literally got Derozen for Harrison Barnes and Chris Duarte. End of the day they traded Barnes for Derozen. A aging role player for a superstar, AllStar, big name and bucket getter. Barnes was not our best on ball defender last yr, it was Keegan. Plus we will probably start Keon next year so with him and Keegan guarding the best 3&4 our defense won’t be as bad as people make it seem. Fox can hold his own, Derozen isn’t a terrible defender he just isn’t good 😂 and same with Sabonis, he’s not as bad as everyone says he is but he’s not great. So really 3 out of 5 players have defense and only the Center position is truly a liability defensively.
Am I the only one who thinks Barnes is a decent roleplayer? Even if he isn’t spectacular at defense he was still averaging 12 points on 47+ shooting, he definitely did what he needed to do
people really don't watch kings basketball and it tells how they grade the trade... Harrison Barnes I love that dude but he couldn't guard my grandma after a hip replacement,
Dude great video but as someone who watched over 60 Kings games this season Harrison Barnes was a horrible defender lol, I literally burst out laughing when you said he was their best defender, he quite literally was the worst defender out of the starting 5
I’m sorry but whoever made this video doesn’t know what he’s talking about and I’m not even a Kings fan. I just enjoy watching their games on league pass. Derozan was definitely what they needed
A B+ is a good grade, I’m not sure why people seem to think it’s not. I also am pretty optimistic in this video about the fit, the defense was the only real thing that worries me. I even said in the video that the Kings needed to make a move and they did which is good and DeMar is an upgrade at that position.
Spurs got A grade because of barnes? thats crazy LOL. Originaly It was a two team trade only between kings and bulls but bulls dont want barnes and the kings really wants to unload barnes, thats why they need to look a team that willing to get barnes and hes contract and thats the spurs. Both kings and bulls dont want barnes then all of the sudden spurs got an A grade hahahaha. For the record most kings fans dont want barnes since last year, they begging to unload barnes from the kings even for free 😂
You know, when people say the Spur gave away nothing for the trade, do people not realize the Spurs had to make cap space to absorb HB's contract? The morning of the DeRozan trade, Spurs traded Devonte Graham and a second round pick to the Hornets.
I am aware of that Devonte Graham deal but with how little of playing time he got, it doesn’t really matter to me, still liked him as a player, especially that game when he hit the gamewinner vs Denver, but he was not someone I expected to be on the roster next year anyways
The kings received demar derozan for Barnes (the weakest link in our starting lineup) and Chris Duarte and a second round pick . The kings still have 4 first round picks and Kevin huerter to trade and all our core players locked in . They are not done making moves . Everybody acting like Barnes is going to move the needle . He was a liability on defense and disappeared on offense. Ask any kings fan 🤝
I don’t think Barnes will move the needle, but he’s solid enough for a team that just won 22 games and can bring them length and shot making at time even if inconsistent
@@HoopSessionYT the spurs got a pick swap in 2031 which they most likely they won’t have by then ! Kings were able to acquire derozan by not giving up ANY key assets and still have all the flexibility and 10M into the MLE to work with ,the kings deserved an A im a bulls fan
@@HoopSessionYT You lose all credibility when you say that HB was the best one on one defender on the team last season. No Kings fans will ever take you seriously saying that kind of nonsense.
I’ve already said somewhere in these comments that was a mistake for sure, but it was also maybe 5 seconds worth of a 14 minute video, I’d wish you would be able to look past that one thing I said and listen to other things and not judge my entire knowledge of basketball on that one clip.
I’d say a B+ is more than decent but I do agree, DeMar for what they gave up was great value, but it’s more than what they gave up for me while grading the trade
Casual talking about the kings. “Harrison Barnes is the best defender on the team”. HB is literally never guarding the best player on the team. It’s Keegan Murray and Keon Ellis and they brought them to the top 13 defensively in the nba last season Fox led the league in steals 🤦♂️
the spurs got barnes and a 2031 unprotected fist round pick swap with sac which judging by sacs history could be a lottery pick. heck it could be the #1 pick in the draft. the spurs gave up nothing. sac got an aging vet that cant shoot but is still a go to scorer. the bulls got trash as per usual. Our GM gets raped on every trade.
Did you watch Demar play? at all? The reason why Bulls doesnt make playoffs 90% is Demar. He is bad defender cant drive to the rim anymore and 90% of his shgots are contested middys. He dused to be so faking bsd in Toronto the first year after Toront o wins a chip. Ofc who am i to tell that if somebody takes a lot shots in a regular season it doesnt make player intoo a star and 90+ what you are doing matters??? I 'm a nobody
I still think DeMar can help half of the Kings goals which is be good enough in the regular season and make the playoffs, it’s just the playoffs that worry me about DeMar and this team. He won’t win this team a championship if he’s their best player but he also needs to find a way to fit wit Fox and Sabonis. Most people in the comments seem to be saying I’m actually underrating the DeMar signing so idk anymore haha
lol not the fact the bulls were always hurt and he didn’t have anybody around him right? Derozan comes to the kings and doesn’t have to be and won’t be the best player on the team.. big difference
Bro Keon Ellis emerged late season for Kings! Keon is a good on ball defender, i think u start him at the 2 and keep Monk off the bench cus that starting 5 has enough offensive power.
If Keon Ellis does start over Monk, I’d be very interested to see that bc I loved how Keon ended the season last year. That lineup could shift my opinion on this trade.
Why will Harrison Barnes be better than his years with the Kings? CP3 and VW will get him the ball in his sweet spots. Starters: VW-Sochan-Barnes-Vassell-CP3. Off the bench (in no particular order): Collins-Mamu-Keldon-Castle-Jones
Not crazy at all. The biggest contribution will be internal development from Wemby, Vassell, Sochan, Tre and Malaki Branham. Plus getting CP3 HB and Castle as new players is a needed boost. The only question marks on this team is Keldon and Collins both have shown to be above average players when they can be ball dominant but have so many flaws in their game as role players.
LoL, What?!? Tell me you haven’t watched the Sacramento Kings without telling me you haven’t watched the Sacramento Kings. Keegan Murray is a great defender. Fox is actually a really good, underrated, perimeter defender. Monk is not guaranteed a spot in the starting lineup and if they keep Keyon Ellis in that spot, that’s another really good defender. You should’ve done more research 😂
I love Keon Ellis and his defense and I mentioned Fox’s defense in the video. But Keegan Murray’s defense alone doesn’t move my opinion of the defense of the Kings personally and DeMar for sure doesn’t help any defensive needs.
I’m not sure what I said was wrong? Does Keegan as a defender make you think he could be the anchor of the defense? I mentioned Keon’s defense and Fox’s defense, I’m not sure how much more you want me to praise the Kings?
As Kings fans, people are overlooking the fact they gave up an unprotected 2031 pick swap to the Spurs. By 2031 Wemby will be in his prime and the Kings could be rebuilding. It would be a disaster if it ends up being a top 3 pick. But I guess you have to give up something to get something. However, I would have avoided giving up that pick swap that far in the future.
That’s assuming wemby is still with the spurs in 7 years, stays healthy for 7 years and as a big is still affective in 7 years.. also the fact pop for sure won’t be coaching in 7 years. The kings have more talent right now that they could trade for picks on the back end later anyways. Worrying about a pick swap in 7 years is goofy. Either way you will get a pick and unless the spurs are actual title contenders by then it won’t matter. Most the titles were won with Timmy and the lost the one guy good enough to win a title in kawhi. Just cause the spurs had an era of David and Timmy doesn’t mean the spurs are always going to be good and besides that era they don’t really have a history of being great… the main cog of that era is 75 years old….kings have also only had a handful of top 3 picks ever and basically besides the Marvin pick have all been in the 70’s or later when they were not even in sac
I agree, I believe I said that exact thing in the video at one point, but I do think he’ll be better with the Spurs with less pressure on him but also him wanting to prove a point going into his last year of his contract after next season. I also don’t want to fully judge my thoughts on Barnes off only last year. Fair point to bring up his below average year tho, but the Spurs getting him free is great value imo.
Bro, either.You don't know about basketball, or you didn't watch the king's play. Barnes is not a great defender and has horrible rotation hips. Keegan murray and Fox we're defensive Problems once they got adjusted, and don't give me started on keon.Ellis and his defense. Towards the end of the season, we were one of the best defensive teams in the league.
I agree, I really like Keon Ellis and Carter off the bench and I mention Fox’s’ progression on defense. But I also didn’t say Barnes was a great defender. I still do think he can come in for the Spurs and be impactful on that side of the floor. You obviously know more than me about the Kings but I do think you can’t judge Barnes off of one below average season.
@@HoopSessionYTI seen you say this a few times.. it wasn’t one season.. he’s been this way for years now, he didn’t play any different last year than the year prior when you actually had to watch him for 82 games. If you asked kings fans who they wanted moved the worst I promise you get atleast a 90% vote on it being Barnes
I’m not saying Barnes is the best player in the deal, but factoring in everything, I’d still grade the Kings side lower than the Spurs, but DeMar is obviously the best player in the deal still.
@HoopSessionYT what are you factoring that would make the spurs higher grade? They get a pick swap in 7 years and a mentor for wemby but kings got an all star quality player.
@Sassarai916 Well for the Spurs, they gave up nothing in this deal and got a valuable pick for trade, continuing to stack up their draft capital, and get a vet who plays the exact position they need while on a decent contract. For the Kings, I still like DeMar on the team for the regular season but for what the Kings want to do, which is have playoff success, I have a hard time believing DeMar will help this team in the playoffs. He’s never been known as a playoff riser, if anything, it’s been the opposite in his career. I still like the contract and they didn’t give up that much so I still like it for Sacramento.
@HoopSessionYT this team took the warriors to a 7 game series and ended their dynasty in the play in. They certainly not getting worse by adding demar. Plus kings didn't give up much and can still bring in another good player. While spurs might get a good draft pick and a mentor, it's just not as impactful.
Did you look up Keegan Murray’s defensive stats especially his 1v1 on ball defense. Keegan was the best defender in that starting line up, after the all star break when the league let the guys play Fox became a defensive problem for teams averaging 2 Stls a game. Keon Ellis will help out as well if he’s starts. I expect the kings to be around 12th in defense if everyone continues to keep a defensive mindset like they had at the end of the season last year. We still need 3 & D wing depth and hopefully they address that.
I really like Keon Ellis and also Devin Carter off yalls bench defensively, I personally just don’t know if I can trust the starting 5 defensively going into next season. I do think Fox has raised his defense as well and Murray too but DeMar on the starting 5 does worry me a bit but if Sacramento can be the 12th best defense or around that, Kings should be real good with the high power offense they’ll have.
@@GrossGunk I said 12th because the person I was replying to said 12, but if you want to put trust into the 20 game sample size, go for it, but I still have to see the lineups they use and how well they play before I rush to give them a higher grade than a B+.
@@HoopSessionYTkeon ellis is one of the youngins mike brown is really invested in alongsides keegan. They both will be starting, and monk will most likely come in from the bench as a spark plug. Im a spurs fan, but there is a reason why these sac town fans love him; gritty, plays defense and can make shots. He will be a great piece for them in the near future
Keegan was the kings best defender , not Barnes. Barnes very average defender, maybe even below average at times. He was good couple years ago but last year was prob his worst defensive year during his kings tenure
I think the defensive culture of the Spurs going into next year will make Barnes tap back into that guy he was 2 years ago defensively imo. I feel like he has something to prove in a way and I think that could really help out the Spurs, that’s one reason why I’m still a fan of the pickup.
I was very close to giving them a higher grade but it’s hard imo to do that without knowing for sure what their direction is. I’m hoping they didn’t just do this because they needed to, but definitely not a bad return like you said tho.
ESPN says the cash and 2nd round picks are coming from the Kings, so the Spurs literally got Barns for nothing! Hoping CP3 and Barns addition will help fix Keldon's hero ball/tunnel vision while giving him more open looks at the 3-point line.
Wow that’s insane for the Spurs. Thanks for informing me on that. And those vets and Pop will definitely help Keldon I think as well. I think Pop will be a bit harder on some of the guys like Keldon when he does stuff like that too.
and the spurs got a first round pick swap in 2031 with sac. the spurs will prob win this trade by doing nothing but taking on salary of a decent ball player
Spurs continue to build war chest of future picks (2031 pick swap) when Kings likely on the downslide Spurs have potentially four 1st round picks in 2025 (Atlanta’s should give Spurs a good chance for Cooper Flag). Spurs playing chess while Kings playing checkers
overrating ? we just got him AND a swap for 2 2nd round picks 🤣🤣 he's here for veteran presence, last year our young squad was just running around most nights not knowing what they're doing out there... And Barnes and Pop like each other from their days together on the national team. Great pickup, for pretty much nothing
@@mathieumalecki6332 Unless you count Barnes's price tag (21.7 Million $$$), which is why the deal makes sense for Sacramento and the Bulls. Barnes value is in the locker room, with a dash of three point shooting. He's a good dude, and a pro's pro, but 21.7 Mil??? The DeRozan swap for a couple second rounders and a five year pick swap that could be useless.... please that's a fleecing if I have ever seen one for Sacramento, even if the fit doesn't pan out because DeRozan can be moved at the break for value. It's win win for Sac. Now all Sacramento has to do is pick up a decent 3/D with length at the 4/5 and they are set for a multi-year run in the West with good young talent on the roster (Keegan, Ellis, and Carter). It's not a bad trade for the Spurs but and A....LOL, no.
I unliked this in the 1st 20 seconds cause the title is EVERY signing yet at 20 seconds says I'm not covering "insignificant" signings. All the major channels are covering the big trades I clicked for EVERY trade
Well, sorry you’re expectations weren’t met but I’d like to point out that I didn’t say I wouldn’t cover the insignificant signings, I said I wouldn’t cover them as long as some other signings. I did in fact cover all the signings that had happened up until the recording of this video. Lemme know if I may have missed any and I’ll try and cover it in my next video covering the offseason.
Lifelong Spurs fan, basketball historian and career sports journalist here - just wanted to say thanks for dropping this, really great work man! Keep it up!
Lakers Fan Disclaimer: I don't know why any player would go to LA to be part of this 💩 show. I won't root for this team until after this era is over and cleaned up. SMH
This draft doesn’t have the top end talent like we’ve seem in some drafts like last year, but I personally think this draft is incredibly deep leaving the door open for teams in the 15-25 range to get steals
We’re not getting two guards take that to the bank. You obviously don’t know what we need. Spurs fan since 1973 and during the Pop era you just don’t know what his picking. We got an idea and it’s not 2 guards