27:10 you say you will get stuff everytime with Falcon. Thats blatantly false considering human error will alway be a factor if your hand is operating a controller
In an alternate universe, this game came out on the wii and everyone would play with wiimotes for 20 years and then someone comes up with the GCC and they get accused of cheating
This is such a good video, thank you. Like really. What I think is incredible is that this concept applies to so much games and domains. My vision of my own gameplay will probably change and improve drastically over time, thank you for that in advance !
coming from a guy outside melee community it's kind of insane to me that people who for years been buying shit ton of gcc's to find the one without flaws are now rejecting what is pretty much a modern solution for this problem. people don't see any problems with buying custom 300$ controllers with notches and manufacturing flaws, but 200$ boxx is cheating and p2w somehow
In my opinion, there should be no limitation in controllers (unless they somehow implement literal cheats). The whole point of competitive games is to reach the pinnacle of possibility of play. And if rectangles are the way to truly see that, I’m all for it. To me, it’s like professional esport shooter games. Gamecube controllers to me are the mice of old: I’m talking Zowie 500 hertz type mice; mice that are completely outdated but people still use them because they enjoy the consistency. However, in my opinion it’s important to recognize that eventually this old equipment gets outperformed and replaced, and that is the era this game should also strive towards. I just want to see Melee - and every game, in fact - to reach its complete, maximum potential. I say remove almost all controller restrictions and let the game be played perfectly. If it’s possible in the engine, the controllers should be able to bring out the full extent of that engine.
As a peach player, it's become a bread and butter option to literally roll the dice on a tech roll read. At low percents when you get a grab, most of your followups havent been opened up and you arent fast enough to cover every option on reaction. So if i get a grab on fox and upthrow at 7%, whatever happens next is always a hard read. It's frustrating but if you can land those, you'll usually be able to close out the whole stock
Is rtc with ftilt as shiek cheese? I feel like it’s much more feasible to learn but perhaps at some point people will be able to TIP shine me. I feel like that wouldn’t be a problem for a while though..
Rafael nadals racquet is known for having such a huge sweet spot and its mold makes it so that when nadal has a horrible mishit, it Actually creates an awkward shot for his opponent. Incentivizing nadal to have huge blemishes in his strokes. My point, if tennis players were as big of babies as these overweight entitled gamers, tennis would still be played with wood racquets. No innovation to take the game forward
It's always hilarious to me hearing people complain about boxx controllers. If people are willing to do whatever it takes to win, meaning buying $400 controllers with customs mods to do insane things with it, or camp the ledge in order to win....and the boxx is cheating because it's so good...then why doesn't everyone get a boxx controller and be the best? make it make sense. I just recently started using a boxx controller and that shit is hard. whoever complains about it, needs to use it themselves so they shut the fuck up
My question is when did we decide it is time for controllers to stop evolving? I think the whole argument against box only exists because some players don’t want to relearn on a new input device but they recognize that it is better so rather than taking the time to learn it they villainize it.
Ever since gfycat went down that reddit thread hasn't been functional. Do you know of any other resources that include the same side-by-side comparisons of tech options?
The ‘stealth buffing’ and ‘unknown source code’ is the biggest problem with boxes in my opinion. You don’t want to have someone hook up something at a tournament that is literally a …black box.
if people are complaining and crying then they should get a hitbox join the wave thats how it was with fgc with street fighter people saying it was cheating but capcom fixed and nerfed it too a extent time too move from controller as well because it is not easy getting a gc controller now a days even the switch ones are going up in price now
I think the 'can't double jump to stage but can air dodge to stage' spacing is important too. Also, when he can double jump to ledge, there's the mixup of low dj to ledge vs aerial to hit you in the same spot. Those are the biggest questions I have.
I'm in my early 30s. The other day I decided I wanted to start practicing tech so that I could even just have fun in online Melee play for the first time in my life. (Have always loved the game but never been any good at it.) After practicing wave dashes for like 30 minutes my hands felt like they had aged another 10 years and were in legitimate pain. Literally the next morning I ordered a Boxx style controller. I will NEVER be a good competitive player, but I am not going to fuck my hands up just to enter the game at a competent level.
bro that should not be happening lol, if that’s happening ur holding ur controller wrong or some shit bruh there’s no reason players like mango hbox and wizzy have been able to play at high level for a decade plus with gcc and have no hand problems, then u try for an hour and feel like ur hands are cooked. the problem is u not gamecube controllers lol
@@Red_Biker_Dude i guess, but it kinda sounded like he was just saying he has 30 year old hands. literally every top 10 player has 30 year old hands lol if u have carpel tunnel then yea go off
@@arabmunnyevery body is different. often times the reason top players are top players or top atheletes are top atheletes is because they got lucky with certain genetics that allows them to have higher endurance with some parts of their body than most people. some people have higher or lower chances of getting RSI's than others, or inflammation, etc
