reading Prydwen's reasons for each tier listing is like reading madman ramblings, so it can't be that hard. edit: Apparently it was, only barely edged it out.
You don't run Captain ishmael and maid ryoshu on the same team. Ryoshu will drain her sp with the aoe and chain skill 3s. If your using captain ish you use cinq sinclair with her. W ryoshu and prequod heath should also be in S+. You can't argue that other characters don't go in S+ because they aren't as good as w ryoshu when w ryoshu is a s+ unit to begin with.
just saying but talisman sinclair enables rupture (when there is less than 2 count on the enemy skill 2 gives 5 talisman so on turn 1 don't waste count skills) then you nuke in 2 turns with talisman on enemy
Yknow thinking back on cap ish shes extremely exaggerated on her feats. Sure she is good but not the everyman this id is proped up to be.(Im going to mostly base this mini review on focused battles) 1)Her bleed generation is so mediocre excluding the fact she can barely give count her potency is painfully none existant. 2) Her poise generation (and general support) requires both res and an enemy to be killed. In a battle where this matters (focused) you require a lot of trash mobs for this to be able to be considered. 3. Her skill 2 gains more benefit on 4 a-res in a 6 slot meta... The follow up mechanic makes allies use skills that do not scale and/or give recourse that are already abundant in her prefered team (pride in poise and bloise). 3.her sanity, its an understated how detrimental this is to her. All her skills have low floors (all of em are 4 base) in a team that barely has access to gloom affinity (which all sp recovery ego requires) and do i really want to use her and bench ringsang to avoid her sanity problem. Both md and railway have enemies that are higher level than she is by default making it so losing sanity is incredibly common unless you put her in first slot.
I dont get why people like R-corp Heathcliff. Sure he might do a lot of damage but thats only while he has bullets. Often times a fight takes too long and when he runs out of ammo his attacks start feeling so bad. After i got wildhunt im never switching to R-corp ever again
He's a one trick pony that really started to show his age when Multicrack came out, since the latter trades the big burst damage from Quick Supression for actual usefulness in long fights, on top of being a real charge ID and also great for support. It makes a lot of sense given he was introduced in MotWE, which was the first event (outside of railway) to feature chain battles where you *want* IDs with long term sustainability, but considering those are gonna be the norm going forward R is gonna show his flaws even more
@@Puffman728Quick Suppression is useful though, like really really useful. In RR4 he can burst 1 or 2 units down easy, and because of how frail he is it's easy to just let him die; So you can switch him off with another unit. Give him the speed slot in RR4, use Quick Suppression; Switch him out when he no longer has ammo
Holy base outis in c tier is crazy especially with the statement "she's got a ego for her s3". The speed of that decision what..... No discussion on how her clash power is probably the best out of the base sinners? Having all these ids with s3 ego-clash levels be at c tier is insane. *coughs in sloth ishmael coughs* Haven't watched the whole thing but going from some of these id takes there's definitely not enough time spent on each id. Reviews such as Yuodivye Ryoshu being ranked down because "there's just better tremor units" and then not talking about main purpose with tremor count just isn't going to cut it. 7 Ryoshu being ranked down just for being season 1 too? no talk about the enormous 5 slash fragility next turn and her insane clashing power? TLDR: Ranking these ids are going to take a lot more time and in depth review than what is done in this video.
Listen man, I was about to tap out at the 2 hour mark but yes there's way too much to talk about and I'm ready to go back to making short form content 🥹
@@heartbae87Having access to a really good EGO doesnt justify moving a bad ID to a higher tier. Would you be ok with moving Sloshing Ishmael higher just because she can use stuff like Blind Obsession and Ardor Blossom Star?
There is no way you could make a tierlist worse than pr*dwen but ouch tingtang gang hong lu and liu ishmael in B tier when fucking maidshu of all things is in S somehow? Ouch. Tingtang remains to be one of the most S units in the game with his s2 (S3 ain't too horrid either as a clasher but like its damage is shit if it doesn't kill something first). And liu ishmael is definitely A tier along with maidshu (though you could probably make an argument for maidshu B tier but I don't think she is that bad) also everyone prattling about how you valued status ids right and you have butler faust and spicesang in B??? That one is rough too, they are both more A tier purely due to echoes of the manor's existence. Also wryo and don are definitely S+ and rcliff is still an S at the very least for the bodysack till qs strat. Overall okay tierlist ig. Pretty easy to make a tierlist better than pr*dwen and you didn't have too many dogshit takes.
Also mc faust, mc heathcliff and lamentsang are currently not THAT good, lamentsang is like high A or low S at most (though he does some pretty nice sinking but he still is not really a sinking core unit when butler outis butler faust and molar ishmael exist, 2 of whom you really heavily underrate) and mc heath is like A at most, and mcfaust is currently only S honestly though chain battles becoming more frequent may make her into a real S+
maidshu: good aoe dps, self sustaining poise, has evade and high speed to intercept TT: he's good but we just think he was better season 1 than now idk he could definitely be higher up because he can be slotted into any team tbh liu ish: yeaaaaahhhhhhh but burn just isnt as good as some other effects butler and spicebush: butler doesnt clash well enough imo and spicebush is negative on sinking count thank you for leaving one of the nicer comments
@@pooooutine dieci rodion has very good rolls and coinage especially for the fact that she is a tank. She is shit in sinking atm, but she is still one of the best generalists in the game for blunt damage stuff. Nclair is not washed idk how you might think that EVER ;( he literally still has a 90 damage s3 that clashes at a 30 and a 64 damage s2 that clashes at a 16, sure he is a bit inconsistent but he ain't washed.
But ESGOO can ;3 (I'm REALLY interested in seeing your take on people fighting the Prydwen tierlist with their own... as it currently is I can respect it unlike a few months ago and with that comes the interest on debating the placements :3 )
@@FWDepthperceptionpart of our requirement was to be able to apply a *good* status. Rupture just isn't good outside MD at the moment but devyat may fix it idk
@@pooooutine Ye but do we really care about count in MD (the most important game mode)? He can nuke bosses there and make Sunshower bigger. B is way too low imo.
@@pooooutinemfw cinqclair still somehow gains 2nd in mve despite being last in slot i think a lot of this list doesn't account for how specific units just hyperscale their damage or how easy it is to do so. Also need be reminded how fucking fast a lot of enemies (especially bosses) are to account for durante existing. Last point, he fuels lantern by himself now before you go "but fluid sac...." Name poise ids that generate gloom consistently the only one you will find is cinq outis. And why would i take a tank over a unit that intercepts those big boi attacks and has party heals for emergencies.
I WILL MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT NOW THAT YOU CAN TAKE IT UP WITH THE MAKERS OF THIS TIERLIST ON THE BANANAMOTH DISCORD @ discord.gg/MbZwvNCVtR and please watch the video for us to explain why we placed where they are 😭 update: no more fighting about this video from me i wasted my day rendering and uploading this video and spent even more time arguing when i have a career defining test at the end of the year i should be studying for. any actual conversation goes to the banana moth broskis server OR CONTINUE HERE IDC comments boost engagement, gotta have some drama if you want to make it big i guess.
Some ranking that i dont aggre with Kurokumo Gregor: Its deffinitly a Mid B Tier ID, way better than he looks, and his debuff gimmick actually work with Ring ID on top of having actual clashes and synergy unlike other Kurokumo Butler Ishmael: Deffinitly the lowest B, shes the weakest performing of the Wuthering Heights ID but she DOES synergize with Wild Hunt and Edgar Heir, also who knows maybe Bygone EGO would buff her specificly Liu Rodion: Shes litteraly the most inflictor of Burn, and letting Liu Hong Lu support passive be on her actually even lets her Skill 3 net Positive Count rather than Minus, deffinitly supposed to be bottom of S Tier not low A Rank Dawn office Sinclair: Speaking of Burn, i think hes at the very top of A Tier not bottom S tier because to be honest, hes quite hard to manage compare to Liu Rodion who just, get everything done easilly for Burn set up, not saying hes bad, hes REALLY good but you can easilly find issues when playing him Some ranking i aggre with Dieci Meur being B: YES, hes really good, although people mistake him as a Tank ID when hes purely a Support(Like every Meur ID honestly) that inflict 80% of Sinking in Dieci Team Multicrack Heathcliff being S: The man litteraly make Charge a fun Team, something they lack before Warp event Also hes litteraly mandatory for Railway Team because Rabbit is terrible there unless you run a very specific strat
Dawn Office is your DPS in a Burn team, and he's one of the highest damaging IDs in the game. Managing his SP isn't that hard; LCB Hong-Lu and Yi-Sang, MiddleSault, NFaust, RingSang all have support passives that help manage DawnClair's SP. Not to mention he gains tons of SP when winning clashes.
