I bought a bit of this set and keeping the ultra premium collection sealed. If more is reprinted I will probably buy more because 1 year later the prices will be at the same spot if not higher. There will always be high demand for this set.
You’re the only person to say this in all the comments. A reprint means more supply and lower prices and gives people opportunities to make more money in the future. Because you’re absolutely right, this set will always be in high demand and people are short sighted in their viewpoints.
Ruins the whole point of what lol? This sentiment is simply not support by data and the value of sets released 2-3 years ago in SWSH and older sets. 151 will always be a high demand set and will hold value over time.
@@pokeboyztrading well think about it as when you were a kid in the same sense. you go to school and show off your cards, your good ones that are hard to get. and why are they good, cause there hard to get! I saw you agree with basically the same thing in a different comment, idc about price I say that cause its the easiest to compare, the scarcity is the value that's what makes that item so much better. if I worked my booty off to get some of the least printed stuff and than they do a huge reprint id feel shafted in the end and it would feel like a greedy move from the company
I love the prices considering I have a lot of it lol, I have sealed booster bundle displays, mini tin displays, etb cases sealed a bunch of upc's. Great investment and I love opening a little bit of it! got a charizard 199 at PSA right now with the SIR evolutions in sequential order! Hoping for all 10's!
I can empathize with people who have sealed 151 who want only high prices. I think people are looking at this short sighted, even with a reprint the prices will in the short term go down but there is no doubt in my mind this set will continue to be in high demand years from now. I’m not convinced a reprint will hurt long term holders, and history supports that conclusion as well. GL on the PSA return!
We don't need a reprint lol get out of here with that nonsense. I have quite a bit of it and a master set! Theres a lot of good new sets coming leave this one alone
Your bias is showing which is fine but it’s not nonsense, and my conclusions are logical and based on data. Sets have been reprinted in the past, IE late SWSH era sets, and their value continues to climb a few years removed.
Yes prices would go down, I’m not sure they would plummet as you say that’s just not what we have seen in past reprints. The set isn’t amazing because the price is high, it’s amazing for what the set is and means to people. So no I don’t agree it would ruin it, the prices wouldn’t plummet as this will stay a desirable set for years to come thus carrying its value over time.
So torn!! A reprint would be awesome but that's also kind of what makes it all so special. If they just reprint all the best series, does it still hold up it's value and fandom? Or is exclusivity part of what makes it so good. Great video thanks for the discussion!
Damn that’s a great point…I hadn’t thought of that. IMO, I would like a reprint because I think it would be beneficial for the hobby and you know Pokemon would make tons of money which makes me wonder why it hasn’t happened yet. I think this set will carry value over time whether there’s a reprint or not because of the nostalgia and how good the artwork is across the set, just my opinion.
@@pokeboyztrading yeah I’d agree with you on this one! I think one reprint is understandable for such an amazing set. The nostalgia is huge! I def won’t fight the chance to get a reasonably priced pack 🤣
No it does need a reprint. You just don’t want a reprint. The same logic applies to you. From a collector perspective a reprint would be great for the hobby, but I get why people don’t want a reprint if they have a position in sealed product.
@@pokeboyztrading I don't collect sealed product, only singles and slabs. I completely disagree with you. Why would anyone want to devalue their collection. It seems that the people who are reprints are the ones that want to give it to buy more product or a cheaper price. Just keep it real. You slept on the set. Now you see it going up and it's too expensive for you to get back in snooze. You lose buddy.
I would like a reprint, however it should be noted that stores have been getting massive restocks over the past year. Sure the product has been scarce but it hasnt been impossible to find. Walmart has sold thousands upon thousands of booster bundles just from their online website. The cards are out there they are just being eaten up by this insanely bullish market. If youve been in the hobby this past year and didnt get any thats kinda on you
Massive restocks seems to be an overstatement considering when it does come in stock on big retail stores it’s gone in less than an hour. Also there’s no evidence there’s been massive restocks, the secondary market prices wouldn’t be as high if these products were readily available as you suggest.
@@ellomate4543 I opened mine lol should have got two. If they reprint I will keep sealed anything I buy. Only interested in the base set collection anyway which I'm more than halfway done. Other than that I grab the singles I like in japanese mint condition for far cheaper and I hate the full arts in 151 so don't care about those.
@@pokeboyztrading : I think we all know the inevitable reprint will come, the real question is when? However like you said this set is goated can see it going wild in 5 years time like EVO
Didn't know the booster boxes went for that much, I work at a Best Buy and saw three of them maybe a week or two ago when we got them in on a truck, they def moved very quickly. It'd be interesting to see when we manifest them and how fast they get sold.
So the prices on the chart are secondary markets. Retail stores don’t sell them at those prices. I generally see $55 for ETBs and $28 for booster bundles.
There was at least a year to buy 151 for retail. That being said I've still bought booster bundles for $40 a piece. I wouldn't mind buying some more for $30 a piece. So I'm actually good either way reprint or not.
The set released late Sep last year and it hasn’t been readily on the shelves from what I’ve researched since about Spring time this year. So it’s really not been available at retail for a year.
There has been some quality issues for sure, I’m not convinced there will be considering it’s been an issue for S&V era as a whole. That is a good point though.
I certainly don’t have all I want/haven’t been able to time the restocks. I got some but not enough booster bundles and I have 0 binder collections. I really want some binder collections. I only buy at msrp though or close too. I’m not out here paying $35-50 for a booster bundle.
Someone doesn't want his little goldmine to fall back down 🤣 there will definitely be at least one more reprint. Look at crown zenith they're still printing that after 3 years
no i dont want a re print. just trickle stuff out like they have been, the prices dont need to drop they neeed to go up while still droping small amounts of product like they do with evolving' skies
It’s hard to say, IR’s typically don’t cross the $50 value threshold even after a year of the set launch. I definitely think it will be a higher value IR but relatively easier to buy as a single.
People don’t realize how hard some of these cards are to actually pull….. prices will spike just as high if as SwSh did at the end of print runs…. It’s criminal. I bought an alternate art from evo skies for $15! Archaludon… an alt art! Criminal!
It will be interesting to see the future value for sure. SnSh era pull rates were far worse though so perhaps there will be some difference between the two eras. Time will tell.
Good video, i like the effort with the powerpoint and different subjects you went over, i think pokemons super smart about what they’re doing and it isn’t without reasons for the lower pull rates I subscribed, keep making content similar to this!
Its more than worth mentioning that playability is a huge factor when looking at price, especially short term value when standard formats are rotated in and out. Reprints are another huge factor that wasn't really mentioned as much as they should have been in this video. A great example of both of these from SV is The Iono trainer card.
Reprints would affect the supply of course thus will have an impact on the price of the top hits, which is one of the variables I analyzed on the data set. So technically reprints were accounted for because the market adjusted to the new supply level. As you said, I remember last summer Iono SIR being over $100, now she’s around $60 because of reprints and other factors, but my primary point was to see is there a correlation between the low pull rates and value, which there was a very weak one.
The pull rates are the best they've ever been now , except for year 1 of S&V. Even though they've lowered the pull rates from Temporal Forces on they are still absurdly better than S&M/S&S pull rates to where It's not even a contest. You will never open a S&V booster box and get 6-7 hits which is average for Sun and Moon and Sword and Shield sets(until trainer galleries) The third Evo Skies booster box I ever opened had 4 hits in it and they were all base V cards and I have a picture of that somewhere.
Yeah it’s definitely much better for sure, I still find it interesting they changed the rates so much in the middle of a set. Fascinating to see the long term impact on value of S&V.
The Pokémon company always releases the best hit rates at the beginning of the set launch and then all future released products the hit rates drop significantly. This is why the more they make or print, the more the availability of the card is not also increased dramatically. The only time this is not true is with non secret rare cards. If you look at past blocks, the amount of cards that will end up being worth $100 or more are very few. Your best bet if wanting to invest in Pokémon is to stick with sealed booster boxes or waiting until the end of the block to purchase the top 5 cards. This hobby has only been able to sustain itself because the majority are consumers and unable to discipline themselves with what they know should be purchased. As more sets continue to be released, funds are wasted on sets like Shrouded fable and not allocated to the purchase of a Sword and shield alt arts or Sun and moon Team up cards. The best thing influencers can do is to continue to motivate people to consume products and not purchase the items that will one day be sough after.
It will be interesting to see how the different pull rates have changed over the last few eras. I hope to analyze the data and make another video on it comparing them.
That is an aspect I don’t feel qualified to speak on as I’m mostly focused on collecting. I wasn’t aware it’s a playable card but I’m looking at the SIR, Ultra Rare, and Double Rare version of Greninja EX, they’re the same card effectively from a TCG standpoint. So I’m not sure that’s a contributor to its astronomically high value.
The thing that really always stayed with me was whenever I pulled a simple v card I automatically think oh that's a one two or three dollar card at the most when in all actuality it took several packs at 4 to 7 dollars per pack to be able to pull that one card meaning the value of it should definitely be worth more than one to two to three dollars and it is technically, but these are the things that go un- spoken for every number in those Pull rates is a price amount also 4 to 7 $ so if you're really not in it for the love of it when you're ripping packs and there's a card you really like you might want to buy it out right they definitely do need to make it more fair and even for the consumer your content is awesome you got a subscriber for life
I’ve been doing preliminary research in the S&Sh era and it’s much, much worse than what we are dealing with now in S&V era. You’re not wrong though. Thank you for the sub, trying to stay more consistent for sure.
I think this will ultimately help collectors. This will help preserve value of chase cards and make these cards more valuable. It will also make pulling rare cards more exciting.
In the long run I think you’re right, there’s definitely some banger cards in S&V. I will definitely revisit the numbers in a couple years. And yes it’s always fun pull hits! 🤩
it might also push people to stop buying packs altogether. opening packs is essentially gambling, any way to slice it, if you don't get what you're looking for often enough, you'll eventually stop doing it.
@@2Balendin2 its not like they are hurting the pull rate to get any of the normal versions of the cards, its primarily the rare versions of the cards. I understand your point but no matter what way you see it, most pokemon chase cards compared to other card games don’t retain much value due to their frequency. I think that lowering pull rates of chase cards ultimately helps collectors of these cards without impacting normal players as the rates for the regular cards have not changed.
I used the Japanese cards as a metric because they’re more readily accessible, higher quality like you mentioned, and still desirable amongst the community. You’re right Chinese cards are cheaper but I think it will take a couple more years for them to become more mainstream. Maybe I’m wrong but that’s just how I see it at the moment.
For me, if I can't read it I don't need it :) I see a lot of EU sellers in cardmarket and with better prices than on eBay. So, look at other sites. If/when it is cheaper buy sealed.
I don’t know about always considering there are Japanese versions of the same card that are worth more and cost more to purchase than their English counterparts.
@@pokeboyztrading It has been that way since my childhood when pokemon first dropped. This is especially due to how Japanese packs guarantee holos and American packs do not. While there are occasional exceptions, I am obviously speaking of the general rule, not the exceptions.
