the into the light weapons aren’t available through onslaught anymore, as onslaught has been removed with the end of the event and start of The Final Shape, but the weapons are found through the world loot pool. That’s where you’d want to get Elsie’s. There’s a couple different ways to optimize/farm world loot pool drops

@@THEaubooster onslaught is still available in the vanguard playlist after into the light. I've gotten everything but elsies at this point. Some Google sources say it's still in the pool without quest just a lower drop chance if u hadn't gotten it via quest. And some say it only drops if u unlocked via quest. So I wasn't sure which is correct

😂 that’s maniacal

@@THEaubooster i mean i played These Empire hunts for 4 days now and i still dont have the bow ._.

@@dreechte it’s a really good bow though. might end up being worth your time, and my buddy has a build with that same synergy but he uses a harmony smg after the swash bow kill

@@THEaubooster yeah im still going for It right now Just Hope i get It soon

heck yeah, that’s still a top tier roll there my friend. super underestimated

@@THEaubooster I almost had an Unbroken the first time I used it but got caught by an invisible Hunter with a shotgun hiding in a corner.

@@AKSBSU LMAO that’s a different type of player right there. hate when that happens to me 😭

Thanks a bunch ♥️

yeah dude, a lot of people love that combo. and you’re exactly right, double aoe just one on kills and one can proc without kills so it’s a good way to get consistent aoe damage output on adds. that’s a solid roll!

that’s still really good! you can definitely put that to use because it will give snipers, bow users, and forerunners a harder time. definitely still one of the best!

​@THEaubooster also when he enhances it next week he'll get +5 stability from Enhanced Zen and +5 stability from Enhanced Headseeker. So it would make up for the stability he would have gotten from Ricochet Rounds.

it’s two songs mixed together, lol. but valid critique, just remember music is subjective. i’ve done the same thing on other videos with a single song instead of two mixed together, and on videos that are more than double the length, yet you’re the first to mention it, so i’m a bit surprised you feel so strongly ab it. but i do hear ya. i’ll keep that in mind for my next edit. thanks for the feedback 🤙🏽

I see it everywhere now even more than Igneous when I reached Adept. Depends on the map but Elsie’s is everywhere in the higher end PVP now.

i won’t argue that, my friend

Thanks, that really made my day! Your positivity is a huge motivation ♥️ Glad to have you as a viewer :’)

thanks bruvva ♥️💪🏽

yeah dude that sounds like a killer roll! lots of good stats from corkscrew small bore. let me know how you like it

@@THEaubooster Thanks! Will do! I also got a Frenzy/Kinetic Tremors one with Accurized Rounds and Arrowhead Brake, which I’ve been told is a great god roll. It’s going to be a “blast” in PVE! 😄

@@Tann_Solo you’ve got two god rolls *AND* jokes. quite the fortunate fellow, you are, haha Sounds like you’re gonna have some fun in the crucible!

not fixated, it’s just definitely smart to consider that you can attain reload speed through other means, meanwhile effectiveness at range doesn’t scale quite as easily and you’re usually either gaining it through an additional damage boost/buff (to counteract falloff) or having higher range (to mitigate falloff), both of which can be quite exclusive. it’s meta to value damage increasing perks in pve, from explosive payload (10-15%), all the way up to golden tricorn (max 50%) specifically because of the increase to damage. but, if your weapon is experiencing damage falloff in the vast majority of its use cases because it’s optimal range is subpar, then you’re giving up ~1%-90% of the damage without explosive payload, and still ~1%-50% of the damage dealt from explosive payload splitting the damage values after the damage falloff curve is passed. So that poses the question: “why do we bother with damage increasing perks in pve (all the way up to 50%) when not investing in range (even while using explosive payload to extend range) can cost you up to ~50%?” Just rolling a different barrel and masterwork will allow you to perform optimally in some of the most common combat scenarios and not cause you’re damage increasing perks to be effectively nullified in what’s likely a large number of engagements.

lol yeah, i said that cause it’s relatively low compared to all other weapon types. it’s actually the lowest shot requirement for any primary, and the only weapon type that is lower is snipers because they’re special ammo. second lowest is non-burst sidearms at 8. ofc rpm is a factor as well, but when you have infinite range from explosive payload that shi goes brrr

@THEaubooster rpm is a major factor. Not mentioning it at all when talking about blast furnace when it can be proced in less than 3 bursts is a disservice. Also not mentioning its synergy with one for all.

i mean, i did say it makes up the pve god roll, but tbh this isn’t a “blast furnace pve godroll” video or a “kinetic tremors in-depth breakdown” video. if you wanna see/learn more about that roll or that perk, just leave a comment.

@@THEaubooster this oversized response seems to be attacking a strawman. I never claimed almost all of what you're responding to, I simply had a disagreement with your "god roll"

you didn’t “have a disagreement about my godroll” you critiqued part of my video for not including the subject matter of a different video topic and said i was doing a disservice. just saying, if you want a specific video from me or have some decent input, convey it properly.

thanks man, means a lot!

yeah i’m pretty sure the roll I put on there didn’t have auto loading. also the point of auto loading isn’t just to be faster, it’s that you can do other things such as reload other weapons, do damage, or apply/proc effects while simultaneously reloading and not having to stay on that weapon to do it. it’s about efficiency not just a narrow assessment of speed. also it’s not just for beefy targets, the idea is to make it so that when you do hit a group of enemies it’s not just the beefier ads that linger long after you’ve cleared out the rest and you have to keep pouring ammo into them. once again, just an assessment of efficiency/optimization and getting more out of your ammo. but if at the end of the day if you just can’t get behind using that ideology or using the gl that way, i’m sure a fusion or rocket gl will do great too. to each their own. there’s not any rocket sidearm or fusions in this list or from onslaught so it’s a bit aside the point, but i hope you get that roll you’re looking for!

that’s alright bro, i make an effort to provide some unconventional insights, and it’s only natural we would make some different selections. feel free to share what some of your picks would be and what you like about them!

this is a hybrid pvp/pve list. i don’t know what you’re referring to though because you haven’t specified which weapon you’re talking about. either way, you definitely don’t NEED a reload perk homie. perks just provide the actual reload stat, or an animation duration multiplier (or both), both of which are achievable through other means such as armor mods, exotic effects, subclass effects, etc. many of the best endgame pve builds have built in ways to circumvent the penalty of reloading specifically so that you don’t have to dedicate a trait slot to it. it’s just suboptimal when you can use one of the other methods, that have the same efficacy within that purpose, which then allows you to invest in additional weapon damage or loadout synergies through your weapon trait. i’ll stop here for correcting you tho

yeah i thought about it but there wasn’t enough of just one or the other for each to have their own tier list, so in the future i’m thinking of just editing an on screen indicator or something. still kinda brainstorming it lol, but i’m sure i’ll figure something decent out thanks for the feedback!

you right. heavy wave GLs are gonna be strong af too

yes, i mainly meant in terms of without requiring a kill activation such as that due to it being more limiting imo. if that makes sense it kinda comes off as a more niche/different use case aside practical dps

there’s a 12 second timer of being in “active combat”. essentially you have to send out or receive some form of damage at least once every 5 seconds to be considered still in combat, and keep that up for 12 seconds to proc frenzy. it can often occur naturally when you’re trying to play carefully and preserve your life (such as in Trials of Osiris), but if you’re familiar with slightly reserved playstyles where you might keeping poking out of cover at your opponents to safely deal periodic damage, that’s often the type of situation where it can proc passively. otherwise, things that help out are Damage Over Time effects such as scorch from solar sources or the poison from thorn. ricochets rounds is another good sneaky way to get unsuspecting hits on targets for around corners and you can’t even see each other and mostly remain safe. you also don’t have to have the weapon that is granted frenzy out in order for it to proc, it can be damage from almost any source. hopefully that helps!

wow yeah between impulse amplifier and frenzy i’m sure that reload speed is crazy fast!

yeah dude, it’s insane. envious actually has the potential to be even better than that because you can double proc it with backup mag and augmented drum for 24 in the mag instead of just 16, and then you can hot swap backup mag for boss spec for some insane boss dps. that’s a hardcore roll, along with cascade also being a really good option that performs just below it for super fast burst dps. who knows when all of that will get fixed though

id definitely take assassin tally over rampage tally just cause they often end up feeling like they’re working against each other in terms of ammo preservation. the assassin tally roll feels like you’re playing with hacks on though lmaooo

@@THEaubooster Have you tried Rampage/Killing Tally yet? The amount of damage feels illegal. The 2 perks also synergize a lot better than you would think since you're dealing with a much smaller mag than what most people are used to via reconstruction on like Commemoration/Song of Ir Yut. However I am hoping to get one of those special Brave edition with Rampage/Envious Assassin and Killing tally. Could do some crazy stuff with the perk swapping honestly. Envious/Rewind for example would go hard with Killing Tally 😆

@@stephenripcord3987 hell yeah that would be so dope. and yeah dude i actually got super lucky and got a special version that had both killing tally and rampage on it and i was so psyched because I had just seen a clip of somebody comparing the damage with both active and I felt like i needed to try it. it is really crazy but you’re right about the mag running out way faster than you’re used to. it tears through yellow bars like it’s nothing tho!

i wish a got a better roll where i could do some perk swapping too though like if I had one with envious and overloaded the mag by 200% then hot swapped to rampage+killing tally, that would be crazyyy

@@THEaubooster Fr there are so many great combinations for hotswapping on the Hammerhead. Sadly the other brave arsenal weapons just wouldn't benefit the same way from the perk swapping so trying it out where you can is nice.

yeah dude, deconstruct is kinda being slept on right now, but it’s so good. same with Luna’s, people usually think of it for pvp cause the slideshot+opening shot roll it can get, but that heal clip+ magnificent howl roll is gonna be super strong, especially when you’re using a solar build and have radiant and restoration going as well!

@@THEaubooster Add in that one fragment that grants you agility regen when applying cure to allies and we are cooking

hell yeah, dps and support at the same time haha

Heal clips effectiveness kind of depends on your reload speed. . I can't imagine heal clip being very useful on sth like Zaoulis for example. You'll get killed twice before the heal from reloading comes.

@@RTGallows if your concern is it being dependent on the reload speed, then that can be said of all the reload activated perks in the game that are dependent on the same thing. the thing is that reload speed is completely in your control in terms of customization outside the weapon. whether it’s a buff or stats from subclass aspects or fragments, the ability to stack up to three loaders on your arms, having exotic effects that impact reload speed. there’s an endless number of ways to increase reload speed on the weapon. the main example i can bring up is that since luna’s is a solar handcannon that can grant cure, it obviously syngerizes with a solar subclass build. in my case it’s super easy to use my solar hunter build to keep my stacks of “On Your Mark” up constantly, making it so i don’t even need to spend anything on increasing my reload, it’s just a part of my combat loops and it’s syngeries. despite that, i usually still have at least one loader for my power weapon if not more depending on what it is, just for dps coverage. this can be the case for anything, and it’s one of the highlights of buildcrafting.

That’s not true, and I’ve already responded to this on a different comment, my man. Target lock does increase ttk-both in general and on the summoner, and as well as when it comes to optimal ttks vs body shot ttks. on summoner or 600rpms in general, target lock reduces ttk for <4 resil and increases forgiveness on the larger scale by requiring less crits. like i said in the vid, when final shape comes and it can get enhanced TL, that <4 will be <6 resil. but yes, target lock can affect ttk even on 600s, as well as forgiveness.

target lock does increase ttk-both in general and on the summoner, and as well as when it comes to optimal ttks vs body shot ttks. on summoner or 600rpms in general, target lock reduces ttk for <4 resil and increases forgiveness on the larger scale by requiring less crits. like i said in the vid, when final shape comes and it can get enhanced TL, that <4 will be <6 resil. but yes, target lock can effect ttk on even 600s, as well as forgiveness. Also, target lock definitely transfers between targets. changing targets isn’t what deactivates target lock, it’s simply by not hitting a shot or it not being in rapid succession. one of the main benefits of TL is the ability to spray transfer after getting a kill and retaining the buff, so i’m unsure where you got that idea. you definitely gotta do more research to educate yourself before you comment about me capping, lol, cause not a single thing you said was right and you’re just running with it. there are a number of sources that share the same information I just did.

maybe not to you, bud, and that’s okay. i form my *opinions* based on very specific criteria. i give some examples to things i take into consideration in the video, but not everything. one example of a common subjective point that differs based on different play styles and pvp environments is valuing perks that have kill requirements vs those that don’t and are consistent across all engagements/ can be applicable to any duel. hopefully this provides some perspective!

yeah, heal clip + onslaught is awesome, and those rolls sound fun too play with! I bet incandescent would be fun on a solar build too, huh?

This is not true! If you reference this reddit post made specifically in regards to the state of recoil direction, you will see that the behaviors being observed are different than you’ve described. Adjusting your recoil direction stat to be higher does not “make the weapon worse.” Simply, the systematic change in applying deterministic recoil to all new weapons is what creates the separation between old weapons that do not have this change applied to them, and new ones that do. The weapon feeling “worse” would be due to the now dysfunctional behavior of recoil direction when compared to the system in place before. As of now, the same feats of complete verticality in recoil is not something to be observed as consistently achievable, whereas in the old system it was as simple as getting a stat of 100. Nonetheless, that does not change the fact that increasing your recoil direction [via barrel perks (extended barrel) or the counterbalance mod] still positively effects your recoil direction by reducing the horizontal deviation. This is conveyed in this excerpt from the provided reddit post, “Addition of barrel perks or the counterbalance mod to correct recoil does not correct the recoil to perfect vertical, and instead only tightens the angle towards vertical.” The tightening of the deviation is the achieved positive effect of applying extended barrel. The god roll perk curation I present in this video does not result in a 100 recoil direction stat which is the only instance in which it might be reasonable for one to assume the recoil direction would be completely vertical, based on the past system. Despite that, because the roll curation presented would benefit the weapon’s recoil direction performance in either past or present implementation of the RD system, it is still a net positive on the weapon, and it does not even aim for a max stat of 100 RD. The fact that The Summoner is a new weapon (meaning it has DR applied) is what makes the behavior of recoil direction feel “worse”-not my inclusion of extended barrel. The purpose of the video was to give my opinion on what the god roll is, not do an in depth break down of the still currently changing recoil system. Either way, I simply vouched for a perk that provides specific benefits *and* mentioned why. www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/1bgsn8r/deterministic_recoil_recoil_direction_and_the/? next time just do some more research before trying to claim that I’m spreading misinformation and practically slandering me.

This is a lot of words to tell him he’s got a skill issue

@@FrankieRedding you’re not wrong

haha yeah, I sorta made a nod at that in the vid, but ofc different archetypes will have different benefits

yeah dude, ammit slaps. and i’m with you on that because i’ve tried a few summoners as well, and no roll feels like it makes the cut except that god roll

i could definitely see how that combo would be a good pair with athrys, but, admittedly, i rarely find myself opting into double primary loadouts. i would often much rather just use any other lightweight frame, and still get the same stat viability as the mida combo without having to sacrifice my special weapon options. the mida combo is definitely still slept on, though 💯

that’s frickin hilarious

that’s hilarious, i did that for a couple games last trials and it was so fun. tlw is always fun to pop off with, but the athrys synergy makes it feel meta lmao

@@THEaubooster 100%

agreed! the health gained on kills alongside its synergy with athrys is amazing! good taste 🤙

thanks homie ♥️

thanks, glad you enjoy it!

haha thanks, man! I try to do make the build vids nice and in-depth, so i’m glad you enjoyed. I’ll definitely keep them coming! 🤙

100% the crimson health regen is super clutch with this build too

@@THEaubooster good point

100% bro I love 340s in general, but especially for this build. I’m not sure if you’ve seen my “Touched by Venom” build video, but I talk a decent amount about 340s in that one and it slaps too. One of my favorite weapon archetypes!

ayee glad you like it bro. i had fun making it, haha

@THEaubooster you got a sub from me bro! I used this shit in pvp and it super slaps

helll yeah, thanks for supporting me broski!

gddddddd son. that’s what i’m talkin about 🫡

just make sure it’s charged up before you throw out the knife or try to get a bank shot, that way you know for certain if it hits anybody it’s an immediate kill-even on the body!

i’ve done plenty of that too. totally different vehicles and landscapes for its lethality/utility though

haha wow dude, i’m glad value the build enough to put in so much work towards this comment. thanks for setting up the viewers like that <3 🤙

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