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Onod, OT and the Mayor sit down each week to chat all things wargaming.

Our favourite game is Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game, so we chat a lot about that on the Podcast- but we also look at other games and chat about our hobby in general.
MESBG Heroes of Legend Tierlist (S3E13)
1:21:48
28 дней назад
Building MESBG Armies & Collections
42:57
Месяц назад
The MESBG Shire Experience
3:37
2 месяца назад
MESBG Evil Heroes of Valour Tierlist (S3E11)
1:23:07
3 месяца назад
Middle Earth SBG | Before You Buy: Iron hills
45:25
3 месяца назад
The MESBG White Council Experience
2:57
3 месяца назад
The Most OP Lists in MESBG History
44:34
3 месяца назад
A TO's guide to running an MESBG Tournament
1:14:41
3 месяца назад
The MESBG Easterlings Experience
3:06
3 месяца назад
MESBG Good Fortitude Heroes Tierlist (S3E10)
1:26:10
3 месяца назад
MESBG Evil Fortitude Heroes Tierlist (Podcast S3E9)
1:12:16
5 месяцев назад
Комментарии
@Competentetyler
@Competentetyler 4 дня назад
17:17 I’m curious how the Crebain and Lurtz combo took out Gwaihir. I could understand if it was a Bat Swarm, but I think I’m missing the value of the Crebain here. Did Lurtz strike higher than Gwaihir?
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 4 дня назад
I think my opponent and I may have misplayed this and thought the crebain also halved fight value. It could also have been that Gwaihir rolled badly in the duel roll with only 3 dice
@Competentetyler
@Competentetyler 4 дня назад
@@thehobbybreakfastshow Both are possibilities. Was just going based on the Podcast and story telling, it sounds like there was absolution that once Lurtz was joined by the Crebain, there was no chance. Haha. I was like Big Bird don’t care for little birds. 😂
@zdron07
@zdron07 6 дней назад
Could we get a explain before you buy on the fiefdoms?
@hunsler1006
@hunsler1006 6 дней назад
I thought the power of the feet would finally give the hobbits a win
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 5 дней назад
We are yet to find a counter to Onod's terrible dice rolling
@zdron07
@zdron07 7 дней назад
What if you actually dont want dane, you just like how the iron hills dwarfs look
@todesbauer1343
@todesbauer1343 8 дней назад
pRouDFEeT
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 7 дней назад
It is important to be proud of ones feet
@JDWidhalm
@JDWidhalm 8 дней назад
Hobbit Feet Show
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 7 дней назад
This was an early draft of the name for the channel, sadly Onod vetoed it
@garethbarton6095
@garethbarton6095 8 дней назад
Given the number of 1s the Ruffians were rolling, it probably wouldn't help; but Ruffians are F3 in a fight with hobbits, the same as the Tookish hunters. So no auto-wins! Very cool vid though!
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 7 дней назад
We did originally forget about this rule but given the dominance of the ruffians in this campaign so far we decided just to leave it that way for the sake of 'balance'
@shadowcat6lives639
@shadowcat6lives639 10 дней назад
So fun fact the mean on a dice roll is 3 5 and the standard deviation is 1.71 So it is completely normal to roll below a 2 and above a 5. Meaning the randomness of the dice roll is inherent in priority with the skill being applied is understanding the extra chance of winning ties
@alastairkitching6441
@alastairkitching6441 12 дней назад
While I agree with your analysis (that Priority is very random, and it is not improbable for a side to get an extended run of winning/losing), I am not convinced that this is problematic. I believe a lot of the complaints stem from the belief that Priority should be switching regularly, and not accounting for the fairly likely possibility that it will not. The above disclaimer not withstanding I’ve given your idea some thought. I think the proposed system, of giving Strategy Points based on the inclusion of Heroes of a tier, is biased toward armies with access to cheap Heroes at each level. This feels wrong. Within your concept I think assigning a Strategy Points value to each army could better reflect tactical acumen in line with the literature. Even with Strategy Points assigned based on the army I am not sure the outcome would be to eliminate runs of Priority in favour of one side. Experienced players would save their points for key turns, still resulting in a roll off but with an extra set of book-keeping bolted on to the game. A simpler solution would be to revise the mechanism for determining Priority. At the start of the turn the player who had Priority rolls a D3; a roll of 1 = Evil Priority, 2 = swap from previous turn, and 3 = Good Priority. There is a 2 in 3 chance of Priority switching - not guaranteed but far more likely than a 1 die vs 1 die roll off.
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 10 дней назад
Thanks for your comment! I think your system of rolling the d3 would definitely work to reduce runs of one player winning priority which would be positive! The idea of each army having a set number of points is also interesting, some factions may become more reliant on having a set number of points which could also allow for adjustments in balance, depending on the strength of each faction!
@niallcorrigan6268
@niallcorrigan6268 13 дней назад
I like the idea of more skill in the priority stage but not sure this method works as long games would result in just defaulting back to normal I've suggested before there needs to an extra heroic "heroic hold" which allows a section of ur army to act last
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 10 дней назад
Onod suggested 'Heroic patience' a while a go which sounds very similar to your idea! Heroic hold is an objectively better name though
@riclacy3796
@riclacy3796 14 дней назад
I like it! More skill expression
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 10 дней назад
Thanks! It's definitely an imperfect solution but I like the idea of having more control over priority
@kieranf3021
@kieranf3021 15 дней назад
I like mechanics that give a risk/reward aspect in favour of the current random system. I don't think it would take long at all to remember and build into the game and gives a nice bit of bluffing to the game.
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 10 дней назад
That's the hope! I don't think it will ever be a thing sadly but it would be an interesting change to try out!
@hunsler1006
@hunsler1006 21 день назад
Nice of you guys to shout out the smaller channels like zorpazorp. He's even releasing videos the same days as you guys to try ride off the high viewers have from going through the scouring of the shire in your videos.
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 21 день назад
We always look out for the little guy in the community 🥰
@grimgrauman7650
@grimgrauman7650 21 день назад
The Goat knock down really is just a "you can not strike if you win" since you are cav and knockdown them anyway if you win. You can attack 2 enemys with the goat and then use regular warriors to attack a knocked down enemy, so he does not fight against the goat to get more value but that is a bit situational. Also the ruel that Dain gets terror if he charges is not that usefull, as most of the time you already bind all enemy models that could have charged into Dain😂
@sebastiencarrieres8825
@sebastiencarrieres8825 23 дня назад
I'm only 10 months late to the party, but that was a nice video.
@brandonkirk6498
@brandonkirk6498 23 дня назад
Gandalf The Gray is also in Survivors of Lack-Town, and The White Council and he can do some work in Survivors especially with Alfred giving him some of his will back, and supporting Bard, and Thranduil, or Prince sharpshooter
@cranburyuploads1029
@cranburyuploads1029 24 дня назад
Massively underestimate old dain. He's very very solid. And a steal for his low price
@hunsler1006
@hunsler1006 26 дней назад
Oh man, I was ready to complain about this tier list, until onod told us all it was objective. Thanks for shpwing me the way guys 😂
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 26 дней назад
Anytime 👍
@Jpriley94
@Jpriley94 27 дней назад
Army of Thror came second at a GBHL 90 in Swindon recently, Thror is very solid 😅
@AleInBywater
@AleInBywater 28 дней назад
Where is WK?
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 27 дней назад
1:08:21
@AleInBywater
@AleInBywater 27 дней назад
@@thehobbybreakfastshow Ohh, i see😅👍🏻
@robertstephens3847
@robertstephens3847 28 дней назад
You guys should have a challenge and try to use Balin or gandalf in your next list and see what you can do.
@muesliman100
@muesliman100 28 дней назад
Balin is kinda good because he allows you to bring Floí and 18 of the nice dwarf warriors, and has good heroics, he has much better damage output than a king and will not die as easily to a combat hero of your opponent but you shouldn't expect him to do anything, especially combats. Khazad-dum could really use a boost though.
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 28 дней назад
I don't think we're not acknowledging that a Balin list can work- more that someone has to be at the bottom of a list of very strong heroes, and he's not as good as other Legendary heroes for us 🙂 (OT would like to distance himself from this comment)
@patrykk6960
@patrykk6960 29 дней назад
Meybe mirkwood before you buy ?😊
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 28 дней назад
It will happen eventually 🙂
@jackgibson2743
@jackgibson2743 29 дней назад
Ah, I see Onod and Mayor have joined OT at the jet engine factory
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 29 дней назад
Interning at NASA
@MRdaBakkle
@MRdaBakkle Месяц назад
It should be said that Aragon isn't a reluctant leader if you take the book reading. If you take the films by themselves, than yes Aragorn does not want to be king. But Aragorn is a good King, and because he is a good King the Kingdom will be good and prosper. But throughout the books he understands that he should reclaim that title of High King, and reunite the North and South Kingdoms.
@hunsler1006
@hunsler1006 Месяц назад
I can't help but feel the final battle will be very one sided after all these needs to the hobbits 😅
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow Месяц назад
We filmed the finale this weekend 👀 It was an interesting game...
@benjaminkliewer5425
@benjaminkliewer5425 Месяц назад
Not me buying armies based on what models my dnd games need.
@hunsler1006
@hunsler1006 Месяц назад
I had the same problem as Onod. Saw Beornings, thought oh, Beorn is cool in the books, they're a bit niche, I'll go for them. Saw they were meta (and price) and immediately put me off.
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow Месяц назад
It's a real problem 😂 I'd played a Beorning in LOTRO too, so was a shame
@Link2edition
@Link2edition Месяц назад
I thought the Erebor player would have declared heroic combats on turn 9 without spending might per the "The Heirs to the Kingdoms" LL rule.
@zelot113
@zelot113 Месяц назад
Do you guys make a lore or backstory for your individual army? Does that play into how you make your armies or anything?
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow Месяц назад
In MESBG, not so much- because I'm choosing something from the lore, and then basing the army on it. In another game though, which doesn't focus so much on pre-existing characters- for sure, I'll make a back story, and aim for a play style that suits it. I'm sure the others would to some extent too, though maybe not as much as me 😅 - Onod
@hunsler1006
@hunsler1006 Месяц назад
I went too deep in the fake army lore of my Dunlending army 😂
@zelot113
@zelot113 Месяц назад
@@hunsler1006 what did you do? I have a whole genealogy for my dwarven army of Thror that I use as a dwarven faction that stayed in the grey mountains
@hunsler1006
@hunsler1006 Месяц назад
@@zelot113 Nah that's cool, I've thought of that, or like a blue mountains clan of dwarves. So real world links, they reminded me of Germanic tribes, so I've painted the warriors different colours with a corresponding hero, to match German Football clubs. So Thryden is Beyern, Gorulf Dortmund, Oathmaker Shalke/Hertha, Frida is Frankfurt. Then "in game lore" I've thought the Oathmaker is blue, so he that can be because they live near the river isen, so used lot of Celtic swirls like water. Frida is black and white, so she can be from the ruins of tharbad and have tower-bridge imigary. Thryden has wolf imigary obviously. And Gorulf Bear imigary, heralding from nearer the forests of Edenwaith, and yellow sortof matches honey for bears lol. May have gone a bit overboard, but oh well lol
@zelot113
@zelot113 Месяц назад
@@hunsler1006 dude that is epic!
@huskarl5366
@huskarl5366 Месяц назад
Another great episode chaps!! I came 4th in my first ever tourney, which began with my 2nd game of mesbg! I just used all the rohan models i had, which meant a mix of mounted and foot so no LL but as many characters as i could squeeze in! The biggest driving force and obstacle to collecting for me is availability, id love to complete some of my forces but ebay/gw are determined to see me defeated 😤 the problem is that so many of the coolest characters and models are just permanently unavailable 😂
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow Месяц назад
Great job dude! Availability is just a waiting game, you'll find what you want given enough time!
@huskarl5366
@huskarl5366 Месяц назад
@thehobbybreakfastshow thank you! My FLG certainly helped, got a couple of the nice old metal sculpts off them for a few £ 😆
@jackgibson2743
@jackgibson2743 Месяц назад
Didn’t realise OT had a new job testing jet engines
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow Месяц назад
The deep lore is that he works at NASA
@benjaminrodriguez6321
@benjaminrodriguez6321 Месяц назад
so glad i found your channel. i love the lotr game alot but sadly dont have people to play with anymore.
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow Месяц назад
Glad you're enjoying it! Hope you're able to find some peeps locally to game with!
@hunsler1006
@hunsler1006 Месяц назад
I was a few days late to this one, but by god was it worth the wait! I'm surprised you guys struggled to remember such a memorable battle 😅
@perreyalsdam7994
@perreyalsdam7994 Месяц назад
I have followed You guys playing through The Scouring of the Shire for some times now. To many of the scenarios in this version seems a bit meeh. I havent played through these scenarios myself, but I'm more and more convinced that the old scouring of the Shire from 2004, which I have played many times, is much better. Have You played through some of those old scenarios? Anyway I appreciate the effort. Your table set up looks great. Keep on going.
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow Месяц назад
We haven't played the older version- not sure any of us owned the old scouring book- maybe Mayor did. Thanks, we've recorded a couple more, and they are starting to pick up a little...
@JDWidhalm
@JDWidhalm Месяц назад
The completionist in me is happy. The gamer in me is indeed, whelmed... Thanks for uploading anyway mates
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow Месяц назад
We strive to offer a whelming experience
@JimmyQG
@JimmyQG Месяц назад
I don't think anyone minds the ship talk
@hunsler1006
@hunsler1006 Месяц назад
I'm not sure there was enough book of Boba Fett and naval ships chat for this good heros tier list. Fair play for still believing thay the rings of power could be saved. I'm not sure what they thought people would be looking forward to for season 2. Or if they thought people would actually think Isildur was dead lol.
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow Месяц назад
Boba Fett and ships are just part of the natural MESBG discussion, surprised no one has brought them up before OT just likes being a contrarian, he'll actually be disappointed if ROP gets good now
@charlessadlerii6205
@charlessadlerii6205 Месяц назад
Absolutely no more ship content
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow Месяц назад
Unfortunately, the ship content comes packaged with the Boba Fett content- they are inseparable
@charlessadlerii6205
@charlessadlerii6205 Месяц назад
More book of Boba Fett content please
@niallcorrigan6268
@niallcorrigan6268 Месяц назад
Ngl, huge star wars fan here, and instantly knew you were talkings about pykes
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow Месяц назад
Mayor is a fake fan
@huskarl5366
@huskarl5366 Месяц назад
Yes! Yes! Yes! Love it! Woo!! THBS!
@sethclarke6895
@sethclarke6895 Месяц назад
Ah, my favourite book of boba fett content creators!
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow Месяц назад
All Boba Fett, all the time
@williambaillargeon7970
@williambaillargeon7970 Месяц назад
Ayyyy first. Love the content guys.
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow Месяц назад
Thanks very much!
@hunsler1006
@hunsler1006 2 месяца назад
Man that was actually the best one yet i think, and nice to see the rules being stuck to so strictly 😅
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 2 месяца назад
We always play the game exactly by the book
@huskarl5366
@huskarl5366 2 месяца назад
oooo eeeer, Woody End you say? ( 0.0 ) THBS! Let's go! <3
@Arthurkenway01
@Arthurkenway01 2 месяца назад
HOBBITS!!!!
@jackgibson2743
@jackgibson2743 2 месяца назад
I've heard that is a thing that people say
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 2 месяца назад
Did you hear it in this video by any chance?
@joshmortimer3433
@joshmortimer3433 2 месяца назад
Thank you for a great game Onod! I really enjoyed playing (and losing to you) in the first game of this tournament. You were by far the better player. Hope to see you at our next tournament. Great podcast.
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 2 месяца назад
Likewise Josh, really enjoyed it 🙂 Will be back to a Worcester tourney for sure (though can't make the summer one unfortunately!) + looking forward to it!
@hunsler1006
@hunsler1006 2 месяца назад
Onod, yes that was his name once, before the power gaming found him.. before it drove him mad
@thehobbybreakfastshow
@thehobbybreakfastshow 2 месяца назад
My heart tells me that Onod has some part to play yet, for good or ill