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@e13c7r0nic
@e13c7r0nic 3 месяца назад
Loved this video. Loved seeing the tell trails of the when laminar flow detaches. What sort of black magic are VGs?!
@Ahorjus93
@Ahorjus93 6 месяцев назад
This video is awesome. Great work. Surprised all airplanes don't have these installed.
@roger111ify
@roger111ify 11 месяцев назад
Great video
@jcmecatronica
@jcmecatronica Год назад
Excellent experiment ❤❤❤
@pilot_sky
@pilot_sky Год назад
Wird hier noch mitgelesen bzw kommentiert? Kann ich mir dir Vortex Teile auch selbst an die Fläche kleben? Ja, mir Jd bewusst das diese an bestimmte Positionen muss, hätte eine FK14 mit Vortex fürs aus messen für meine Maschine. LG
@Tech-Invest
@Tech-Invest Год назад
Verrückt, was nicht alles möglich ist.. 😛
@normanderson9850
@normanderson9850 Год назад
Watching in April, 2023 for a class in aerodynamics. Thank you!
@billtabbert8632
@billtabbert8632 Год назад
Fantastic, Thanks!
@bobbymcguyer
@bobbymcguyer Год назад
What was the actual landing speed?
@gband4
@gband4 Год назад
Who else here after the Nepal plane crash, which is suspected due to the stall.😔
@industrieundtechnik1761
@industrieundtechnik1761 Месяц назад
No one mr. lowbrainer! People here are mostly smart and have some own knowledge.
@imarks2012
@imarks2012 Год назад
Great video. Does the wing have any washout? I'd expect to see this stall pattern (even without VG's) if it does.
@romashin921
@romashin921 Год назад
Классно
@crimony3054
@crimony3054 2 года назад
At 2:34 you can see the more dramatic effect is the lateral movement, not the boundary layer backdraft forcing the strings up from the wing. The vortex generators aren't working as described.
@jonasbaine3538
@jonasbaine3538 Год назад
look at timestamps. 2:34 is without vgs. 🙂
@crimony3054
@crimony3054 Год назад
@@jonasbaine3538 They let anyone in here.
@Eva-cs5le
@Eva-cs5le 2 года назад
Fantastic video! Thank you for taking the time and also sharing the video! VG clearly make a significant difference to stall speeds at different configs. The transcript is pretty hilarious though - I don't think the researcher actually says "and takes a sexy" at 12:11 🤣
@edzme
@edzme 2 года назад
This is the best video I've seen to date on this topic
@nuclearwinter21
@nuclearwinter21 2 года назад
I now think I know what I’m going to create and stick on my motorcycle’s fairings today. 😁
@sblack48
@sblack48 2 года назад
Why were they put on the tail? What were the results? Was there a benefit? The Wheeler has issues with tail effectiveness at high AOA and side slip. The speeds quoted could be misleading. You could have attached flow on part of the wing but the airplane could be descending I.e. at 0.9g instead of 1g. So the speeds, if you are using them to determine your operating speeds you should correct them by dividing them by the sq root of the vertical acceleration. This is a requirement for defining reference stall speeds on big airplanes. You can’t really claim a super low stall speed if the machine is falling out of the sky and you can’t arrest the sink.
@erikisberg3886
@erikisberg3886 3 года назад
Very interesting experiment! Seems like the ailerons work well past stall angle of attack of the wing. Reminds me of the zigzag tapes we put on som gliders. Low speed handling and induced drag usually improves, at high speed drag can increase but not by much. But it seems to depend on the airfoil shape. If I remember correctly the chordwise placement of turbulator tapes is also rather is critical.
@tartarsauce447
@tartarsauce447 3 года назад
Do anyone come up with the idea of retractable VGs? They could be retracted during the cruise and stick out during take off and landings.
@industrieundtechnik1761
@industrieundtechnik1761 Месяц назад
Whats the advantage to retract them?
@keithhoward9238
@keithhoward9238 3 года назад
My question is what were the level cruise speeds differentials with VG and without VG. Was it a large difference between the two. My research has found that it about a 1 to 2 kts difference in level cruise. As with Aviation, there's always a give and take scenario.
@jonasbaine3538
@jonasbaine3538 Год назад
I rather lose a few knots and slight fuel use increase to improve controllability in critical situations.
@keithhoward9238
@keithhoward9238 3 года назад
Looking at installing VG on my upcoming plane and want to ensure that I fully understand the need/safety implications/lower stall speeds/lower takeoff and Landing speeds that VG provides.
@royhsieh4307
@royhsieh4307 3 года назад
i hope one day they will make movable vgs as a standards on all planes like they have flaps
@flybobbie1449
@flybobbie1449 3 года назад
What happens if you get ice on them, as ice tends to form first on anything sticking up.
@jonasbaine3538
@jonasbaine3538 Год назад
should be avoiding icing conditions with/without vgs! no hot wing!
@WalkerKlondyke
@WalkerKlondyke 3 года назад
I'd like to see this on motorcycle windscreens to see if it can reduce helmet buffering while still using a smaller screen.
@danizweifler6061
@danizweifler6061 3 года назад
Guten Abend Herr Strausak / bei Interesse hätte ich Ihnen den link über 7 video's genau zu diesem Thema zu einer einzelnen Lancair in den USA // MFG
@hbykv
@hbykv 3 года назад
Hallo Dani, sehr gerne. Habe vor kurzem einer Lancair Legacy im Birrfeld das sichere Fliegen beigebracht. Einen Bericht darüber gibt es in der AeroRevue Nr. 2/2021. Grüsse Viktor Strausak
@danizweifler6061
@danizweifler6061 3 года назад
@@hbykv ...und weil ich bei der Arbeit (Medienbranche) die AeroRevue durchgearbeitet hatte, bin ich gestern Nacht auf diesen Artikel bzw. link gestossen + hab geantwortet.... :-) // P.S: links kommen noch (= bin aktuell am Arbeiten)....... = leider kein pensionierter Ex-Swissärlär..... :-)
@user-xt2vq8kj8j
@user-xt2vq8kj8j 3 года назад
It helped me study
@ahmadhalaoueh6054
@ahmadhalaoueh6054 3 года назад
Amazing Video thanks for sharing
@markuskluever4059
@markuskluever4059 3 года назад
@AlJay0032
@AlJay0032 3 года назад
Do they cause more drag at higher speeds? More fuel consumption? How much?
@hbykv
@hbykv 3 года назад
Not measurable
@terryheadgepath4205
@terryheadgepath4205 4 года назад
Thanks, awesome video!
@MrAllan5oh
@MrAllan5oh 4 года назад
These arent pilots. These are scientists with a huge pair of balls.
@simonbrownnz
@simonbrownnz 4 года назад
We added a VG kit to our stock standard 160hp Cessna 172N model a few years back and it changed the whole aeroplane. The first Cessna helicopter! The very low speed handling and very slow speed stall characteristics were there to see in the very first flight. Quite amazing really. I wouldn't want to go back to it's previous life not having VG's knowing now what VG's have done to it. In some configurations it seems almost impossible to stall..the ASI reads as low it can go on the dial. You don't even notice any change in IAS. It's only a 100 knot 172 afterall. So that's Yes Yes Yes Yes for VG's..
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 4 года назад
Great visuals!!
@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985
@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985 4 года назад
I would advise caution in doing this on half a wing as your changing the loading characteristics along the length of the airfoil.
@deanc.5984
@deanc.5984 4 года назад
All planes need VG, they should be standard.
@hbykv
@hbykv 3 года назад
Absolutely correct
@_Schisko_
@_Schisko_ 4 года назад
With the outer VGs Ropes on the inside: OMG HELL WE ARE STALLING AHHHH MAYDAY MAYDAY Ropes on the outside: Crazy niggas what they doin over der
@bomberaustychunksbruv4119
@bomberaustychunksbruv4119 4 года назад
I see, that they delay the stall but then when the stall does happen it is quicker and more violent. They would also effect fuel economy at the cruise. There's a reason that small plane manufacturers don't use them and I suspect this is why.Many thanks to the poster for doing this video, well done.
@STOLSPEED
@STOLSPEED 4 года назад
Those vortex generators were supplied by stolspeed.com
@hbykv
@hbykv 3 года назад
Correct
@vimp5594
@vimp5594 4 года назад
ОХУИТЕЛЬНО!!!! :))) 1. Видео как сохнет краска 2. Как бродит квасное сусло + 3. Как дёргаются ниточки на крыле Лайк!!
@kimfucku8074
@kimfucku8074 4 года назад
With those vortex's you can make the tractor fly. Cheibe guet!
@powernumpty
@powernumpty 4 года назад
Those poor worms.
@jonasmeier663
@jonasmeier663 4 года назад
52 knots, elevator im Aschlag 😂
@larsair
@larsair 4 года назад
Cooli sach! :D Echt spannend das so Visuell chönne z gseh.
@twotimesaday
@twotimesaday 4 года назад
Such an instructive video. Thanks for your labor. Well done!
@coriscotupi
@coriscotupi 4 года назад
Back when I was a CFI, one day I covered the wing of our trainer aircraft with such yarn strips and flew it all day like that, showing student pilots the visual effect of stalling. They were all delighted to see first-hand something they had only studied in textbooks. ...I take it those VGs are not certified for general aviation aircraft? How does one go about installing them? Will the airplane not be illegal with such a radical aerodynamic modification, however beneficial it might be? Would the airplane need to be re-registered as "experimental"?
@jimstanley_49
@jimstanley_49 3 года назад
0:17 This aircraft is experimental. They just had to update the magical paperwork that allows the plane to fly, I assume with data from the VG manufacturer and the new performance data from test flights. I think you can get them for non-experimental, but the manufacturer has to have done all the magical paperwork.
@coriscotupi
@coriscotupi 3 года назад
@@jimstanley_49 Somehow I managed to miss the big "experimental" painted there. ...And "magical paperwork" describes it nicely. Thanks for chiming in. Cheers.
@canalotimista6588
@canalotimista6588 4 года назад
Alguém me explica?
@coriscotupi
@coriscotupi 4 года назад
Os geradores de vórtice aumentam a energia da "camada limite" (a fina camada de ar mais próxima à superfície da asa). Ao fazer isso, eles atrasam o descolamento da camada limite e com isso conseguem uma redução da velocidade de estol do avião, como mostrado no vídeo.
@canalotimista6588
@canalotimista6588 4 года назад
@@coriscotupi Muito obrigado ❤❤❤
@kennethpaulmagalona3416
@kennethpaulmagalona3416 4 года назад
stall?? no way.
@terrysmith128
@terrysmith128 4 года назад
Unreal. 15 knot change.
@brgimscht
@brgimscht 4 года назад
swiss people should not talk.
@hbykv
@hbykv 3 года назад
Swiss people very often speak German, French, English and a little Italian. This is how we usually talk and everyone can understand something. We made the video recordings for safety and not for RU-vid.
@lustantinoanimations5699
@lustantinoanimations5699 4 года назад
I was amused by the paroxysmal behavior the strings portrayed.