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I'd be interested on your views regarding Wing impact vests that are starting to pop up onto the market, the WIP 50N looks a good option but I am still on the fence regarding hooks. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-49CZZ4xCrYw.html
PSA: If the battery is in the FD, it's like an idling boat. While very rare, the motor could start without hitting the trigger and cut your fingers. So, never touch an uncovered prop with the battery installed. I cover my prop when taking a break on the beach because people love to touch it! -------- I'm loving my Foil Drive!
Well summed up lads. Another cool feature for the 2024 Nova wings is the North Sails Carbon UDi tapes inside the tips of both Nova and Nova Pro wings that both stiffen and give a more reactive feeling as they snap back into shape
Nice one Ritchie. I’ve had one for 6 months. Love it, it’s a “session saver” as can always have fun if conditions are no good such as onshore. Also good if swell too big to prone.
Have been wing foiling for a year and just started with axis gear. Foil Drive has allowed me learn how to work with my different foils, get a sense of how they turn, how they perform pumping and especially useful - it’s allowed me to dick around with the rear foils to judge drag versus stability. Also able to keep looking at the speedometer on my watch to see when they stall and what drag they have. It’s gotten me into waves for the first time in my life (in a bay stealing wakes. It’s a great tool for training and practice and exploring. I’m using max system, weigh 95kg, using a 1401 art pro when I’m on my prone which is 30L. If I use my Appleslice which is 95L I can use a spitfire 900. In flat water that is.
Chalk and cheese. The silk is like a stunt plane, the ART v2 a glider. Both excel in their field, the ART’s efficiency, speed range and glide make it next level for connecting fat bumps. The silk loves to bank into a hard rolled turn on steep sections and doesn’t flinch at turbulent water.
Neither of those 3 would disappoint! It would actually be quite hard to do a comparison as the pro's and con's on those 3 are almost the same. I think it would come down to rider preference on handle design and front/back hand pressure. Also whether you have a priority on discipline or looking for wider versatility. Welcome to give either of us a shout for a run down.
@@poseidonwatersportsuk What about build longevity? It's great to have a good wing but if it bags out after 15 uses then the performance drops like a brick?
Good question. Tough again as they are all top of the game and still perform equally well after a run of maxed out sessions. I think the best: Construction, seams and manufacture : easily ozone without question - it will stand the test of time. Anti stretch panels - XPS, its panel layout ages well. LE fabric abrasion durability - F-one uses a tougher style of Dacron that’s handles scrapes well.
Nice review! What sizes you tested ? And how they fit your weight? I am 85kg and really looking to jump into axis range and as I am mainly winging this foil looks very promising:)
We only got got hold of the 999 V2 to test, similar weight to you, it feels like a good staple size for average conditions (15-20 knot wind, flat-chest high faces). If you are comfortable riding <1300cm foils you would be happy on this foil. Keen to try the smaller sizes, I feel as i feel they could be really lively and fun, so long as you have the conditions and riding level for them. Depending on your local conditions and level - I'd imagine if you had the 999 you would also want something smaller for the firing days. The 939 might work as a 1 foil quiver.
I will bite my tongue and avoid any spoilers of my own designer thoughts on this except to note that anyone on Axis foils should go to the Advance or advance+ fuselages. Quite rightly, they supplied these fuselages to bring the wings closer to the mast axis of rotation and reduce yaw control resistance for yaw initiated turning. There's so much more in-depth on this but I'll quit there.
Always running Axis on the Advance +. It really loosens their foils up and brings more life into them. Would recommend Advance + for almost all their foils and level of rider. It's amazing to see the development of the sport progress so quickly, brands stepping in late to the party have lots of data to get their products comparable quickly, it's nice to see brands like Axis who have been there since the beginning and helped make the sport it is today adapt and keep up as new lessons are learned and trends established.
Great review. Would be awesome to also see a review of the Konrad LX foils that fit the axis black fuselage and a comparison to this ART V2, as they seem to have quite similar attributes based on specs.
Konrad median line is more 2-D than Axis median line 1-D so you can interpret that for stability in turbulence vs the straight median line explanation which every time I listen to it converts to a word salad. I suspect Axis foil sections are slightly better than my own but no idea how they compare to Konrad, depends on Konrad's research prior to their recent startup. Axis have had plenty of time to refine their foil sections but they are also up against companies like Armstrong and many companies now days run simulation software to find weaknesses in their foil designs. I don't think the current state of art software gives accurate answers fast though and it's not just running the software, old computer saying "GIGO" garbage in, garbage out. If you don't feed the simulation software with things like distance from water surface, Atmospheric pressure, compressability of water(not), % of disolved gasses etc etc then you won't even get a close result from the software. And then things like turbulence from the wing, require 3D modelling of the fluid flow which is typically only approximated from 2D stacked layers. Ride quality is so much more than simulation results.
Good review, again. Was it a crazyshort advanced or the advanced + you used? Did you try a skinny tail and if so how did it compare with the progressive tail?
Thanks, glad you enjoy. Always the advance +, it really loosens up the Axis Foils and recommend it to almost all levels. Spent time with the progressive tails, not put time pairing it with a skinny yet.
Really enjoying these reviews! My winging riding partner is on axis and going to buy one. I'm on armstrong ha v2. Looking forward to test this art v2 out and see how it compares to the ha v2.
Glad to hear you like. The ART v2 and HA v2 have a very similar range, but very different feel. Both weapons in their field, enjoy the back to back testing
Stall speed is similar in a same size comparison, HA v2 maybe slightly lower. The ART v2 is faster. The HA has a much looser roll. The ART v2 a looser yaw. Stock setting - the ART has more front foot pressure, the HA drives more from the back. They feel very different to ride. The HA's looser roll and rear drive makes it feel more 'surfy' and playful through gentle or snappy turns with minimal input, the ART is more planted and flat, liking a firmer input and is more suited to softer turning and rides like a smooth 'glider' between lumps
Hi, Nice review! I'm coming from hps 1050 for very light wind and hps 930 for everything else. Mostly finding they both hit the wall for speed (although that could be me) around 38kmph. Sounds like 999 would replace both and be faster? Looking for a form of quiver - what might that look like e.g. 999 replaces and 939 or art pro for faster/higher wind? 85kg on 85l board intermediate for reference...
You’d definitely enjoy the upgrade from HPS to ART v2, you would find the 999 faster than those sizes. Worth saying that the take off speed and forgiveness of the 1050 is real mellow and swapping to a 999 v2 might loose you a few knots of bottom end, at least for a while until you have learnt the high aspect take off technique. For sure the range of the new 999 would bridge those sizes. About small ART pro vs ART v2 - they are very different, the pro is like a drag car and likes to go straight, flat and fast, quite locked in with an abrupt stall speed, it only does that 1 riding style very well. The ART v2 is like a touring track car, it still has stacks of performance but likes to turn and can be ridden slow. If you want playful and fast go 999 & 879. Hope that helps?
I think the pro has a much wider wind range and a 2 wing quiver totally doable. But whilst the pro does have a better top end, its bottom is about the same, so if you are needing the grunt of a 6m but still wanting to ride in 3m weather it might be tricky to only have 2
Hi guys, nice review, can I ask your opinion? Between north pro with boom and duo tone slick 2023? I’m looking for upgrade my wasp . Alulla is too pricey, so I’m lucking at normal slick mod3 canopy. What are your opinions? Thank you
Couldn't offer an honest fair comparison on those 2 having not spent enough time on the Slick 2023 I'm afraid. The Nova pro is very versatile, stiff and full of performance for a Non-alula wing, At first impression the Slick feels a little lighter but flexes more. Sorry cant help more. 🤙
@@poseidonwatersportsuk don’t worries mate! I will go for the nova, just waiting for the boom! Thanks anyway, and keep with good and honest reviews, cheers
Just my $0.02. My absolute go-to wing for surfing was the HA925. The 1125 was slow and didn’t like to turn. The 725 was scary fast and ripped turns but the pump was very unforgiving. The 925 kinda did it all. But it can often feel overpowered in turns. The MA1000 surfing absolutely rips. But the pump is trash. Just my experience from three sessions. The HS1050 pump is weak but rips like a twin fin surfboard. The HS1250 pumps easily. It’s fast. It’s stable. It rips turns. Just a little slow, compared to HA. Now the HA880. These new HAs are absolutely insane!!! They lift off early like a CF wing. They are loose and fun like a HS and MA. They pump effortlessly like a HA. But they have the stall speed of a HS or even CF wing. It’s mind boggling how good these are. I tried to get back on my 1125 and 925 in the surf and hated it. The 880 is just that good. It’s so good, I feel overpowered and could see myself enjoying a 680 or 780 in small waves. TLDR; the new HA wings have crazy early fit, low stall speeds, effortless low frequency pumping, carves so well, breaches well, and just makes foiling easy. I legitimately think a beginner could learn on these new HA wings. It’ll be a struggle, but much more doable than the early HA stuff.
Very fair, thorough, accurate review. Love my 115L Nomad--15 sessions winging on it so far this season. Happy I found one in US Midwest. Mostly fresh water lakes. I'm 82kg, winging two full years, many years windsurfing. Moving from basic 125L 5'-8" board. This Nomad is plenty stable for me--didn't want to go full skinny. Takes off early and touchdowns are nice skips. Pairs great with Axis HPS foil.
Hey Guys. Quick Question: - I'm running a two board quiver for wing. Downwind board + sinker. - Looking to replace my 60L Appletree slice V2 to go smaller (I'm 72 Kg) - Thinking 50L... 60L is really easy and lightwind ability is too close to my DW board Question is... Slice V3 vs Skipper?
Good question. Both great boards, ride characteristics on foil are similar, take off and touch downs quite different. The slice v3 has amazing acceleration and release, it takes off crazy fast and easy. It touches down when level really well, on a rail it can bite a little. The skipper is a little less eager to break free at slow speed and likes wing power, but then bounces off the water at any angle and speed so well you often don’t notice the touch down. I’d say - slice if you are into blasting speed runs and turns on flat water, skipper if you are into slashing waves. Did you see our foiling mag review vid on the appleslice v3 too? We talk about the comparison a little in that
@@poseidonwatersportsuk hmm yes very tough call. I'm certainly more of a wave guy, however it seems that the most recent designs from KT (and boards such as the omen flux) are closer to the slice v3 for wave riding... Don't think the skipper might be a little outdated (it's a little wider...)? Also would love it to double as a prone board(I'm a beginner in this area... I can surf normally but never prone foilled). Thanks, love the content. Eric from Canada
The sport is developing fast and kit changing with it. In the end neither the Skipper or the Slice would disappoint, they are both at the front of the pack. In my opinion I'd point to the slice if you ride more straight and fast as it is so easy to release onto foil and so has a big range of condition usage. For carving and waves I'd still choose the Skipper, it might not take off quite as easy, but handles touch down and foam hits so well
Awesome info guys! I’ve “backed off” renewing my Armstrong quiver for the last 2 years, waiting for a few cycles of product releases but I’m now looking to tap into the new stuff. I’m an advanced winger and have been loving my 925 and 725. For proning, im not super good at pumping yet so the 925 was hard to keep up to speed, one mistake and the pump was gone. So usually I prone on my HS1550v2, purely because it’s easier to pump. Now with the new MA range and the new HA range, what would be a good foil to add to the quiver (and replace the 1550), for prone foiling but also wingfoiling in waves. I’m 84kg and ride a 60L appletree appleslice v2 board.
I like it for medium waves or wind swell. I find I like the mast further back, easy pop up in light wind and good glide when I pump. Where did you have mast set? Also it’s fast
Dreamy for those mellow conditions. We had an AK foil mounted centre of the tracks on these clips. Obviously it depends on the foil to find the best balance, but I agree it feels nicer to be mounted further back than usual on this board, I feel that’s because of 2 very different sections to the bottom shape and nice to be able to utilise the flat rear half
nice to see something slightly different from the pack ! lots of rocker for those beautiful waves -but would it work in flatter light wind conditions ?
It’s designed for flat water and light winds, that’s where it excels. Our filming day turned out to be firing, but this board is all about early take off and ease in mellow conditions. The rocker helps with touch down, whilst the rear section is totally flat and narrow to help it accelerate and release
Great question. Exactly what I keep thinking with the rocker. That much rocker makes me nervous about truly light winds. I do have to say I have a Macro 58l and love the nose rocker, it pops off the water on touch downs so nicely. To get going, the back of the board is flat, so I lean towards the back for takeoff. And I usually don't like rocker on boards but the macro I've come to love. Anyway I'm assuming cabrinha is following similar consideration in this design. Thanks for the video!
Hey, neither of us have tried the Omen Flux yet to be able to give an honest comparison. You are right they both have similar spec and brief. The Bottom shape is quite different though, I would imagine the Slice v3 takes off and recovers easier, whilst the Flux touches down less on the carve, but unfair to say until trying. Will make a note to let you know when we do
The flux has more of a v-hull with rear chines. They do have a similar shape though. I proned and kited the 36L. I reckon that would be hard to wing on although they have much larger volumes offered. AT has light boards, but they come at a cost…. Very delicate. You need to handle these boards very carefully. Not so easy when frothing. 😂
Hey, they looks sick hey! They are indeed a custom from Brainchild. They complement our reviews and fly great, currently not plans for them to hit stores
Great review thanks guys. Am looking at moving on from a F-one phantom 1280. Winging in up to 22knots (after which I go windsurfing) on a 5m strike, mainly in slow fat waves at hayling island. 70kg. Any thoughts on this vs a SK8 950?
Both options would be a really fun upgrade and sensible step from the Phantom 1280. They both have a playful ‘surfy’ roll and are great in the waves. Comparing them, The sk8 is much faster, handles speed great and excels in its mid-top end, at the compromise of bottom end grunt to get going, so you’d probably find the jump to 950 might take some adaption and probably wise to hang onto your 1280 for light days. In slow fat Hayling swell it’ll want you to keep the turns flowing and feel great doing it. The tracer excels in bottom end and lifts super easy in sloppy waves or when underpowered. It pumps great and doesn’t stall out making it very forgiving to learn turns and positioning, but it’s not as fast and as you near its top it becomes a handful. You’d feel at home on the 1030, but probably find yourself wanting the 800 as the autumn energy starts pushing again. In slow summer Hayling swell you could sit pretty straight. You probably want to look at the brand systems as a whole and consider your possible next stage and whether it’s worthy of a full migration. The AK is a very well priced system which makes low powered riding easy and has great options for surf and DW which make you feel a better rider. F-one has a huge range of foils and especially their small ones excel in high performance riding, having such a large range means each design is dedicated to specific riding styles with less cross over. Their foils are priced higher so quiver building is a more costly pleasure. Hope that helps. Welcome to give one us a shout for more advice 🤙 Chris - @poseidon Rich - @kite barn