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Lekker blijven stoken met Rusland, 1 van de grootste ruwe grondstoffen leverancier ter wereld. We gaan echt niet zonder kunnen. Dan heb je ook nog Afrika waar as we speak de Fransen min of meer uitgetrapt worden en Rusland en China heel hard vriendjes aan het maken zijn. Europa heeft een heel groot probleem, meer wapengekletter gaat dit niet oplossen, integendeel zelfs. Wat een visie, man man man.
Europa heeft dan ook amper tot geen grondstoffen. Dat was ook een van de drijfveren van de handel en kolonialisme. En vandaag de dag zijn we braaf Amerika aan het volgen in het ruziemaken met China en Rusland. Maar er wordt zelden tot nooit besproken of dit wel zo'n goed idee is.
Ik denk dat er héél weinig regeringsleiders zijn in de EU die een oorlog willen voeren. Iedereen in de westerse landen heeft 'landje pik' al opgegeven en accepteert huidige grenzen. Helaas denken niet alle leiders in de wereld er zo over, Putin en Xi zijn hier een mooi voorbeeld van.
De doorglegging door de BRICS & Africa gaat zijn vruchten af werpen.......ze leveren geen grondstoffen meer zodat ze geen bommen & granaten kunnen maken...The Collective East VS EU & US
Wat een ongelooflijke idioten in de regering. De oorlogspropaganda . Wat een ongelooflijke ENERGIE VERSPILLING DEZE OORLOG /EN EN wat een C02 productie deze wapen industrie. En je schiet eerst alles in puin en vervolgens bouw je alles weer op . Wat een CO2 productie moet dat zijn . ZIJN DE POPPETJES IN DE REGERING WERKELIJK KOMPLEET ZIEK IN HUN BOVENKAMER GEWORDEN . EGO is strijd oorlog ( het ouwe bekende ) De ZIEL is EENHEID , SAMENWERKING , OVERLEG , PRATEN EENHEID . WIJZE MENSEN WILLEN DE MENSHEID NAAR EEN HOGERE SPIRAAL VAN LEVEN VOEREN . WE zien nu duidelijk wat de oude bedeling ons opdringt............... MENSEN DOE HIER NIET AAN MEE !!!!!!! HET ZINLOZE AFSLACHTEN VAN MENSEN . De Russische burgers als ook de Oekraïnse burgers als ook de Europese burgers zitten daar niet op te wachten .
De idioten zijn aan de macht gekomen. En de uilskuikens, die ook wel burgers worden genoemd, staan erbij kijken er naar en weten zich geen raad met wat ze horen en zien.
The warmongers in the West are the biggest threat to humanity. The idea that Russia is a threat is comical. The West started a Hitlerite proxy war against Russia.
NATO has created this conflict that started with the coup d'état in 2014 which the US/NATO participated in with Victoria Nuland as the organizer. Victoria also appointed the new government 3 weeks before the coup d'état. Available on YT. Do we want the EU and NATO to make more coups in the future and how can we stop it?? The 2015 Minsk Agreement was a fraud intended only to deceive Russia. How do these low IQ people think it will facilitate future negotiations when they have destroyed trust in all types of agreements? Why did NATO not want to accept the peace draft in Istanbul in the spring of 2022? The peace brokers judged the agreement to have given a high probability of a peace agreement between the countries. I don't understand NATO, which was once a defense organization and has now become a war organization.
Military strength does not prevent future wars. This symposium of war freaks is going nowhere as long as all it proposes is military escalation. / It should focus more on how to build peace by promoting social justice and common prosperity for all nations, and advancing a multipolar and multicultural world. Build mutual understanding between peoples, avoid military blocks and exporting ideologies. / The "west" needs to discuss with the "rest" of the world and not presume it knows the solution to the problem of wars. / The "west" needs to accept the fact that the expansion of NATO provoked Russia to invade Ukraine. It scuttled various attempts to forge peace agreements with Russia (e.g., Minsk Agreement, etc.). It must also recognize the role of its military-industrial complex in instigating military conflicts for profit. Without such honest-to-goodness reflection on its culpability, the west is deluded... it is imprisoned by it own psyche. .
Best ground defense in the world's is Russia and China and America and Europe Union can't stop a weather ballooon and Russia flags is a Christian Nation and Russia flags flying in Berlin Germany after the war and 😢😮Ukraine people with Hitler regeme against Russia and people with history know this
Best ground defense in the world's is Russia and China and America and Europe Union can't stop a weather ballooon and Russia flags is a Christian Nation and Russia flags flying in Berlin Germany after the war and 😢😮Ukraine people with Hitler regeme against Russia and people with history know this
Complete disappointment with these Dutch experts on the origins of the war and underestimation of Russian capabilities and psyche. Russia never wanted to conquered Ukraine. An escalation of restraint on the part of the West is really not true.
Two hours of overpaid hacks talking about nothing and purposefully avoiding saying anything. The U.S. zigged when it should have zagged and it did it repeatedly. The final mistake was depleting our reserves and testing the limits of the already limited appetite for war spending in the name of protracting a local police action in Ukraine which would never have been necessary it if it weren't for years of clandestine arms shipments. If you're China, the time is right to deal with Taiwan while the focus of the U.S. is elsewhere. The U.S. focus on Ukraine makes it more difficult for the U.S. politicians to justify a robust intervention to save Taiwan, particularly if China opts for a slow strangulation in the form of a blockade lasting months. With the blockade option, which may come as soon as July, a political capitulation may be secured. If Taiwan lashes out, treating the blockade as an act of war (which it would be within its rights to do,) China would argue that Taiwan's firing of the first shots justifies their inevitable invasion. There are definite parallels with the Cuban Missile Crisis with regard to both Ukraine and Taiwan, but in this case, in both cases, it is abundantly clear that both sides are making decisions that will lead to war rather than peace. If you're China, you couldn't have asked for better circumstances under which to achieve your objectives. The best part, from their perspective, is that the U.S. decided all on its own to take this insane course of wasting resources in the Ukraine it may well need later to deal with China. The most important resource is manpower and the industrial base, which is non-existent in the U.S.. Very much like Germany in the Second World War, the U.S. is picking fights with countries which have larger economies and which have ambitious plans to match and exceed any lingering technological advantage we may have. At the outset of WWII, Germany had a reputation for high technology and had done much of the theoretical work necessary for making the atomic bomb. They had superior jet engine and rocket technology, pioneered the flying wing design, had better vacuum tube computers and had a system of cryptography that was competitive with the American system. None of this saved them because their policies were quite irrational, as was their decision to declare a war on two fronts. We now live in 1939 Germany, like it or not. The only question is whether we will win or lose. If we win, the world would forever be subject to our current system, which is based upon the collusion of government with corporations. There is a term for this and you can look it up in the dictionary. If we lose, we will have to hope that our conquerors will be as kind to us as we were to the Germans and Japanese. In 1945, we gave our enemies better than we gave our own people by granting to them universal education and healthcare. Not unlike the boy who cried wolf, the United States has simply lied to too many consecutive generations in order to secure public support for wars which have been proven time and again to be unjust. Even if a war were justified in this case (and it certainly is not,) the vast majority of Americans will refuse service for one reason or another. That is what lying to your people for 100 years will do. The American people do not have principles, morals, or even intact families to defend. Most American children are b******s who are raised in government run daycare centers. Perhaps it was a mistake to allow corporate America to brainwash the American people into downloading mobile applications the express purpose of which is to facilitate adultery. Perhaps if they hadn't done that (and many things akin to that starting in the 1960s) there would be a few stably married people left in the country. When regimes lose the popular support of their people, they fall like dominoes. When all of the major political parties, the government and all institutions are utterly reviled as they now are, people will support any alternative, including a new forms of government, even if that new government is imposed from without. I hate to break it to my fellow Americans, but the Russians and Chinese do not have to deal with problems like having every news report being a thinly veiled advertisement for a fast food restaurant or for some other business concern. That sort of corruption is simply not tolerated in those countries. In those countries, they actually only televise news on the news. Immoral behavior is not encouraged by corporations and by the state in literally any other country. It is utterly sick and disgraceful what has been done to a formerly great nation. Americans are unlikely to find much sympathy from the world at large as their power wanes and as they are increasingly held accountable for their crimes. Robert McNamara confessed on his death bed that the Gulf of Tonkin incident never happened, but we never got an apology for the Vietnam War, for the demolition of our Twin Towers, or for any number of other crimes perpetrated against our people.
That was good, thank you. I understand each person had to take a short time, it could have gone on for another hour or two and I would have been enthralled.
This supposed to be an intelligent discussion, they did not start discussing this first: war starts with behaviours of human beings influenced by its surroundings including their supposed " enemies" discuss this first and the rest are TOOLS of war.
@@hazelwray4184 Wars happen for a reason that the reason for stating them is usually hidden (behaviours of human beings) lies. Ten Commandments of War Propaganda We do not want war. The opposite party alone is guilty of war. The enemy is the face of the devil. We defend a noble cause, not our own interest. The enemy systematically commits cruelties; our mishaps are involuntary. The enemy uses forbidden weapons. We suffer small losses, those of the enemy are enormous. Artists and intellectuals back our cause. Our cause is sacred. All who doubt our propaganda, are traitors. In August 1914, when an almost unanimous German parliament voted yes to war, it was presented to the German public as a defensive Schutzkrieg against conniving enemies. The perception presented to the public during the first few years of fighting, was of a Germany fighting a defensive war for survival, not a scheme for imperial aggrandizement. But in reality, already in September 1914, in the first few weeks of the war, a secret plan for an extensive redrawing of Europe’s borders was prepared for the ""Septemberprogramm"" sound familiar? it should do a countries hedge ummm onny is going down the shhhhhter
Oekraïne is al verdeeld aan blackrock en consorten en rusland had al in mei 22 gestopt kunnen zijn ,cia nato en engeland wilde oirlog ,geld verdienen over de ruggen van jonge mensen ,deze man is dus een oorloghitzeren moordenaar van Oekraïne se bevolking europa en amirika pompen het op dat hoor je van deze man schandelijk en verdrietig ,bouwend naar een 3e verniegende oorlog tot beeindiging van onze landen ,waarschijnlijk zijn deze mensen dan gevlogen naar veilige oorden ,de laffaarts er was vrede mogelijkmaar door eu cia omzeep geholpen
I am sorry David for your wishful thinking about the actions of Maoist China, I guess you also think about a green Russian future. Totalitarians are just interested in their own power and not the welfare of their own people let alone the world. The sad reality is that political change is necessary before environmental concerns are made. If the CCP members breathe toxic air in Beijing and have lung nodules, then there is nothing the West can do to convince them. to change. There is nothing strategic about your studies, just an excuse for Chinese propaganda.
Statler en Waldorf ten top en als ik wordt geblokkeerd om ene goede discussie aan te gaan vind ik dat jammer. Ben het eens op punten van beide zeker na vandaag , 09/03.2024, te meer om familie geschiedenis maar als ik wordt geblokkeerd vind ik dat jammer en wetenschappelijk moet je open staan voor discusie. Dat Rob de wijk nederlanders dom noemt vind ik dat jammer want dat ben ik niet en weet best wat geschiedenis inhoudt met familie aan twee kanten .
