All who got something against early Croatian state they want absorb Croats in Serbian world. They ignore our identity, early state and even right to our existence today. Like Russians today about Ukraine. What a savage Balkan chauvinism and hating from Serbian side?!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Aaaaaa fuuuuukcet no point even trying to explain history to Srbian Propaganda how fuuuucket it is. Croats and Srbs have slight different DNA. Shitstel has been writen in History books even i Russia that Croats and Srbs are different people and came to this part of Europe from different places and totaly different Time as well!! Stop talking 💩
Serbia did not start with Nemanjic line. Far from it, they where just first to convert population to Christianity. Serbian culture was present during Rome, and God(s) know how much earlier. Serb Christianity is built on top of original faith. For example Saint Ilija is our thunder God Perun. "Slava" also stems from original Gods before Christianity. History was wiped out around Rome several times, by Roman elites who wanted themselves as original nation. It was the first modern artificial nation state that started to erase history around itself.
Croatia is the oldest country in the world. It is written in the Bible. Croatian people have unique and pure DNA. Their language is unique. I mean these people are special....case.
So show as the grave of one croat king ,give us solid evidence of that he was real....there is not a 1 ......except the storeys maid up in vatican in 15th century about croat king from 9th century .....after 6 centuries...really,???
😂😂😂😂 Srpski mitovi. Došli ste u Bosnu u tom broju jer ste bili vazali muslimana i osim na kosovu, stoljećima ste se borili na njihovoj strani dok se nije poklopilo da se Otomansko carstvo uruši pa ste se oslobodili. Pustite vaše mitove, čitajte malo neutralne stručnjake koji imaju obilje dokaza da ste bili od svih pokorenih kršćana, najbolji podanici sultana, baš je izašla knjiga austrijskog pisca sa mnogim izvorima iz muslimanskih i vaših prijepisa tokom tog perioda, kao i činjenicama koje su se događale i zabilježene su u povijesti.
A šta biste vi radili, da bi obstali tako su nastali muslimani I Bosni, Kosovo, Albania, jer nisu želeli da budu drugorazredni trećerazredni stanovnici malo je Srba bilo u turskim ratovima većinom so to bili Vlasi iz Romunije kršćani a plaćenici, dok su se Turci I konvertiti izživljavali nad Srbima jer nisu hteli da budu njihovo topovsko meso a niko jim baş nije ni pomogo .
What Croatians Bosnians Montenegrings considers them selfs is before those arrivals in 6th century, the Ilyrians. We were here for thousands of years, thats why Serbs, Croats and so, dont fit us, those came later, and we been here way before
Shame on the Author. This is quite clearly a Serbian propaganda video.. Serbia never had anything to do with Croatian Dalmatia, any part of it, throughout history. The Serbs were never a coastal / Mediterranean people. Split / Dubrovnik Serbian? New York might be Serbian as well if this is the case. The Papal dividing line between Catholic and Orthodox Europe (in this part of Europe) was the DRINA RIVER. In other words, present day Bosnia & Herzegovina was fully and completely Croatian. Period.
This is not true, ordinary lies of Byzantine historical society and East Roman chronic lies!!! Serbian people are autochthonous people of these areas, you have many proofs and Serbian toponims on South of Europe to explain this!!!🤔🥱🍻😎
Croatians are Serbs who be forced from side of Vatican to take Catholic religion, same thing is with Muslims who are Serbs who be forced from side of Ottoman empire to take Islam, "FORCED" never with own choice!!! Simply explain and this is pure true!!!🤔🥱😎🍻 Everything starts with Serbs many centuries ago!!!
So how croats look polish and german while every serb look pakistani and arab? (Ceda jovanovic, vlade divac, radisa urosevic usw.)...i didnt met any single serb who look blonde or european
@@nuvon-kn3seHrvat e baš si ti sav Pakistanac😂, kako napišeš komentar sav pun sebe i nadobudan izvališ takve gluposti da je to tragikomično!!! Jel ti znaš da su "Hrvati" sami sebe zvali "Katolici" čak sve do početka 19 veka reč Hrvat niko nije ni izustio, a kad su "Hrvate" u Dubrovniku inače uvek srpskom gradu pitali na popisima u istoriji tokom vekova koji jezik govore niko ali niko nije rekao "Hrvatski" nego Srpski prijatelju moj ja ti to ne kazujem da bi te nervirao ili se prepirali ali sam dosta čitao o tome i izučavao to veruj mi da je to čista istina!!! Izuči malo knjige i gledaj predavanja svih profesora lingvistike i istoričara, znamenitih pisaca na Balkanu (EX-Yu) pa ćeš videti sve što ti kažem da je tačno!!! Možda vaša psihologija i sumanuti zalet fanatizma prema svemu što je Srpsko to neće da uoči ali tako je kako je, mi tu ništa ne možemo promeniti!!! Jel tako, slažeš se sa mnom!?!?🍻 Živjeli 🍻 i dobar tek ako fruštukuješ slučajno!!! Pozdrav iz lepog NS kraj Dunava!!!
@@danicao.6778 smiri se poturico pravoslavna...inace je uopce poznato da je danasnje smrdija i crna gora da su bili ciste mulimanske zemlje...malo citaj sta je napisao evliya celebija osmanski povjesnicar... nakon sto su rusi oslobodili balkan...vecina turaka, arapa, cigana koji su zivjeli su slavenizirani i postali "srbi" 30% smrdijanaca poticu od albanskog plemenica vasojevici...znaci da je svaki smrdijanac u biti siptar razmjesan sa arapima, ciganima, kurdima, turcima, karavlasima itd...sam karadjordje se zapravo zvao gjin marash kelmendi dokle hrvati braca sa poljacima, ukrajincima, cesima, slovacima i rusima...jel si ljubomoran zato?
I read these comments about serbs and croats not the same tribes, which hadn't been mentioned by the host who I believe is Sir Michael Cane that reads this. All these comments contradicts historic facts. Is objective historic research. Big like from me. C1 English knowledge requirements to comment..
The irony of a croat in the comments section saying serbs tried to steal croat history, when croata non stop try to steal a serbian man named nikola tesla. Serbs view croats as desperate, serbs darker skin croats claim? Lol what utter bullshit. My entire family is pale white. relatives also. Croar history and identity is nothing more then a vatican con story from the fakeness of medjugore and so on. If croats came from different lands then serbs , why do croats speak the same language as serbs ? Why if croats are staunch catholics dont they speak a latin language? Isnt it funny they just happen to speak the same tongue as serbs. And yes many croats are catholic serbs. The evidence of this is abundant in ante pavelics crazed ideas where on mass serbs where converrted to catholics or killed off if they didnt convert. Serbs view croats as a cancer a tumor. STAY AWAY FROM US FREAKS. One people have nikola tesla The other have severina That really says it all. Croats are arrogant but have nothing to be arrogant about.
Nikola tesla said himself that his family converted to orthodoxy like many croats did in this time...serbs didnt even exist back then.. serbian nation was created by russian empire in 1851, when they liberated most of balkan from turks...and local turks, arabs, kurds, karavlahs, romani were assimilated into serbs... There are also some serbized croats, hungarians, albanians, bulgarians, czechs, slovaks etc. thats why you also have white serbs...but most serbs have much more things in common with turks, moroccans, kurds, syrians then with croats... The reason why serbs spreak croatian mixed with turkish is because vuk karadzic (a turk by origin) invented serbian language (a Mix of croatian ans turkish)
We all know that's a lie!!! It's a political imigination story!!! One question where is a any grave of any king in that Croatia state/kingdom? Or the money, gold or silver coins!?
And Bosnian KIng "Tvartko"(1353),conqured it all ... Before him,Poland where ruled by "Elisabet of Bosnia",as Queen consort of Hungary and Croatia(1382)
Serbs are made up nation by russians to counter turks...inform yourself about evliya celebi or mikhayil chernyayev.. Ukrainians are white croats btw...both nation are close to each other along with russians, poles, czechs, slovaks etc. While serbs are closest to turks, kurds, syrians, moroccans, albanians, afghans etc....
Croat are not Slavic at all... They are remnants of kagan Bayans Avars so there you go and other Croats are just catholic Serbs. Pope used old and proven tactic Devide and conqer. And everthing you talk about here is Serbian history .
Croats are actually slavs...croats look usually polish and russian while serbs look pakistani and arab...just Look at ceda jovanovic, vlade divac or aleksandar vucic
@@pericadurdevic8246 you are right...there is not any Single Material Artifact that proof existence of serbian people before ottoman...serbs are mostly assimilated turks, roma, karavlahs and albanians, while croats are original slavs
croats are clear slavs... While serbs are slavized ottoman (turks, gypsys, arabs, kurds etc.) Who became slavic after russian Invasion of balkans... Most serbs look more pakistani then russian, polish or croatian (slavic) look at ceda jovanovic, vlade divac, aleksandar vucic, nemanja radonjic, radisa urosevic etc. All of them look more pakistani then slavic Read demography of ottoman traveller evliya celebi...95% of the population of modern territory of serbia and montenegro was muslim (mostly turkish, kurdish, karavlah, albanian, arap and even somali and north-african) After russian empire liberated most of balkans...most of the muslim population was assimilated and the so-called "serbian nation" was created...vuk karadzic (a turk by origin) created the "serbian language" what is a Mix of croatian language and ottoman turkish language...the serbian king karadjordje was a albanian by origin (gjin marash kelmendi was his real name)...serbia is just a fake nation created by russians to push out the ottoman...you will not find A SINGLE evidence of existence of serbian nation before ottoman empire... Lets look at serbian genetics: 12% slavic, 30% north-african (Ev13) 30% middle eastern (J2).... Serbian food...turkish burek, baklava, cevap, kajmak, ajvar, fasuliye, corba etc. Serbian music: arabic turbofolk, romani trubace... Serbian folk-costumes: turkish Fez, sajkaca, subara... And a lot more things
Me as Croatian history major a profesor has to listen to this bullshit... When somebody who, doesn't know about Croatian history, just needs to take a look at Croatian flag...
*The Principality of Serbia (Serbian: Кнежевина Србија, romanized: Kneževina Srbija) was one of the early medieval states of the Serbs, located in the western regions of Southeastern Europe. It existed from the 8th century up to c. 969-971 and was ruled by the Vlastimirović dynasty. Its first ruler known by name was Višeslav who started ruling around 780. While by that time, starting from the year 680-681, the Bulgarian state had taken the lands to the east. Vlastimir resisted and defeated the Bulgarian army in a three-year-war (839-842), and the two powers lived in peace for some decades. Vlastimir's three sons succeeded in ruling Serbia together, although not for long; Serbia became a key part in the power struggle between the Byzantines and Bulgarians, predominantly allied with the Byzantines, which also resulted in major dynastic wars for a period of three decades. The principality was annexed in 924 by Simeon I and subjected to Bulgarian rule until 933 when Serbian prince Časlav was established as ruler of the Serbian land, becoming the most powerful ruler of the Vlastimirović dynasty.* Source: wikipedia, page Principality of Serbia(early medieval). 780-960(Byzantine annexation) Capital city: Dostinik/Dostinika(Destinikon in greek)
croats are clear slavs... While serbs are slavized ottoman (turks, gypsys, arabs, kurds etc.) Who became slavic after russian Invasion of balkans... Most serbs look more pakistani then russian, polish or croatian (slavic) look at ceda jovanovic, vlade divac, aleksandar vucic, nemanja radonjic, radisa urosevic etc. All of them look more pakistani then slavic
croats are clear slavs... While serbs are slavized ottoman (turks, gypsys, arabs, kurds etc.) Who became slavic after russian Invasion of balkans... Most serbs look more pakistani then russian, polish or croatian (slavic) look at ceda jovanovic, vlade divac, aleksandar vucic, nemanja radonjic, radisa urosevic etc. All of them look more pakistani then slavic Read demography of ottoman traveller evliya celebi...95% of the population of modern territory of serbia and montenegro was muslim (mostly turkish, kurdish, karavlah, albanian, arap and even somali and north-african) After russian empire liberated most of balkans...most of the muslim population was assimilated and the so-called "serbian nation" was created...vuk karadzic (a turk by origin) created the "serbian language" what is a Mix of croatian language and ottoman turkish language...the serbian king karadjordje was a albanian by origin (gjin marash kelmendi was his real name)...serbia is just a fake nation created by russians to push out the ottoman...you will not find A SINGLE evidence of existence of serbian nation before ottoman empire... Lets look at serbian genetics: 12% slavic, 30% north-african (Ev13) 30% middle eastern (J2).... Serbian food...turkish burek, baklava, cevap, kajmak, ajvar, fasuliye, corba etc. Serbian music: arabic turbofolk, romani trubace... Serbian folk-costumes: turkish Fez, sajkaca, subara... And a lot more things
Croats are artificial-political nation such as Ukrainians or Americans made of pure SERBS converted into Roman-Catholics starting from Frankish occupation of the Serbian lands till presently, as Bosnian Muslims were pure Serbs converted into Muslims during Ottoman Empire and they don't like to hear about it! There is only 2 documents which refers to a Croatian king Tomislav made by the Vatican, there are no archeological nor historical material artifacts to confirm the exitance of independent Croatian medieval states, most of the "Croatian rulers" were ethnic SERBS from SERBIAN DINASTIES who ruled upon Serbs and to some instances upon Croats whom their history centuries later declared as "Croats", as they do with Tesla for instance or with any other famous Serb! The Official historiography of the Slavic past is based on a FAKE Vatican's document allegedly made by Eastern Roman Emperor Constantine Porfirogenitus in 10. century AD who described the "arrival of the Croats and Serbs into Balkans around 624 AD" the document is actually made probably at the beginning of 17th century as a part of the Vatican's policy of "congregation of the fate". In 16th and 17th century Vatican was fighting a reformation process in Europe thus it has started a process of re-writing of Europe's history in order to justify its "God's given right and supremacy to rule upon all Christians"! Serbs were and still are the biggest Vatican's obstacle to penetrate further to the East and Serbian patriarch was the only East Orthodox patriarch who didn't attend the Ecumenical Council in Florence held between 1431-1449 thus refusing the union with the Pope! SERBS and former Serbs presently called South Slavs have been a NATIVES OF THE BALKANS (HELM PENINSULA) FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS known under different ancient names such as TRIBALS, ILLYRIANS, THRACHIANS, DACHIANS, SERBS/SORBS/SURBS/WENDS, VENETI, SLAVS, SARMATIANS, DALMATI etc... The Czech document from 14. century called the Dalimil's Chronicle mentioned that in Serbian lands there is a country of Croatia from which a Poles came who are also called the Czechs...this in fact means that some ancestors of the Poles and Czechs came from a land of Croatia which is a land of SERBIAN PEOPLES! Croats are a GEOGRAPHICAL TERM an inhabitants of the Croatia which is just one of the lands of the SERBS! Until the beginning of the 20th century even all south Slavs were considered rightfully just as a SERBIAN peoples, although some such as Slovenes had their own language! Croats were a small Serbian group of peoples situated between Serbs and Slovenes and they also had their own language which was a mixture of Serbian and Slovenian but around mid 19th century they accepted officially Serbian language as their own written and spoken language, until the beginning of the 20th century most of Serbian Catholics were included into Croatian identity. But even today they have Serbian names and surnames and they speak Serbian language whom they call "Croatian" and they hate Serbs and try to exterminate everything that is Serbian, the same applies to all artificial nations!
croats are clear slavs... While serbs are slavized ottoman (turks, gypsys, arabs, kurds etc.) Who became slavic after russian Invasion of balkans... Most serbs look more pakistani then russian, polish or croatian (slavic) look at ceda jovanovic, vlade divac, aleksandar vucic, nemanja radonjic, radisa urosevic etc. All of them look more pakistani then slavic Read demography of ottoman traveller evliya celebi...95% of the population of modern territory of serbia and montenegro was muslim (mostly turkish, kurdish, karavlah, albanian, arap and even somali and north-african) After russian empire liberated most of balkans...most of the muslim population was assimilated and the so-called "serbian nation" was created...vuk karadzic (a turk by origin) created the "serbian language" what is a Mix of croatian language and ottoman turkish language...the serbian king karadjordje was a albanian by origin (gjin marash kelmendi was his real name)...serbia is just a fake nation created by russians to push out the ottoman...you will not find A SINGLE evidence of existence of serbian nation before ottoman empire... Lets look at serbian genetics: 12% slavic, 30% north-african (Ev13) 30% middle eastern (J2).... Serbian food...turkish burek, baklava, cevap, kajmak, ajvar, fasuliye, corba etc. Serbian music: arabic turbofolk, romani trubace... Serbian folk-costumes: turkish Fez, sajkaca, subara... And a lot more things
It's funny how croats become hysterical 😂😂😂 Croatian kings never existed and country is since 1992 or we can count hitlers puppet state in 40s Heritage is Serbian or from old Italian states... 😂😂😂 I love to see them go nuts 30 years of self governance is all you achieved through history 😂😂😂
croats are clear slavs... While serbs are slavized ottoman (turks, gypsys, arabs, kurds etc.) Who became slavic after russian Invasion of balkans... Most serbs look more pakistani then russian, polish or croatian (slavic) look at ceda jovanovic, vlade divac, aleksandar vucic, nemanja radonjic, radisa urosevic etc. All of them look more pakistani then slavic
Croats are heroic slavic people with heroic slavic history...while serbs are just turkish-arab gypsys who ate jeleaous of croats 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Smrdijan girl and turkish pasha ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@nukana-wb9bm what? You can invent stories to try to insult but you end up funny at the end of the day because you are the Serbs. Your grandfathers named football club Hajduk (all Hajduks of the world were Serbs) and had organizations who claimed different from what you claim today. Everyone search ORJUNA and compare it to what is said 🤣🤣🤣 Only kings you had were Hungarian and Serbians ...you pure turkish, dark, ottoman, gipsy Serbs 😎
@@bgdabg6769 if croats are serbs how do croats look like poles and germans and serbs like pakistanis and arabs? (Ceda jovanovic, vlade divac, radisa urosevic) and have mono-eyebrowns? How do croats have dinaric hablotyp while serbs have simlar genetics with albanians, turks, arabs etc. (E1b1b + J)? And hajduk have nothing to do with orthodox turks (so-called serbs) since hajduks rebelled and serbs did not... I can answer you croats are old slavic tribe and serbs are turkish, albanian, arab, african etc made by ottomans in 19. Cenutry, Serbs (ottoman-tribe) never had Kings or heroes in history (except turkish)...croats had That are facts..
Da sumiramo, Hravati su 900 godina bili pod Madjarskim Turcima, od tih 900 godina, Turci iz Anadolije su ih drzali 180 godina, Madjari 600 godina, Austrijanci sa madjarima 120 godina, dakle skoro 1000 godina, od kako su imali neka lazna kraljevstva koje ni Papa nije priznao oni su bili konjusari nekome od Turskih plemena.
Smrdijanci bili konjusarima turcima 500 godina...i 500 godina srpkinje su se predali turskim begovima i pasama u haremima...smrdijanci imaju vise turskih gena nego turci sami: Ceda Jovanovic, Radisa Urosevic, Vlade Divac, Marija Serifovic itd. Dokle hrvati imaju cisti slavenski hablotip...smrdijanci imaju hablotip E1b1b + J2, slicni albancima, turcima i arapima