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I'm croatian and wish I were our neighbors not savage serbs

@@joezadro1156 Same

We are more brothers than that gypsy turk servs who are actually Croato Bulgarian mix bizantine creation long live Croatia and Bulgaria 🇭🇷🤝🏻🇧🇬

Hahahah...dear god... Let your dear Serbian explain something to you Bulgarians and to you Croatians of your heritage,if your masters made you forget of your that doesn't mean that we should forget ours,and ours is yours,and so is your ours. Croatians are nothing else but catholcised serbian people,yet i will gladly dennounce you as any sort of far or distant relative nowdays. After you made factories for kiing innocent children under 14 years old,and left that act as a your legacy to world society. 40,50.000 children you murderred... All for your masters in Rome and Pentagon,Berlin... and about Bulgarians,we have a saying,who ever speaks bulgarian is using serbian lenaguage without understanding it's rules or gramatic. Bulgarians are a mixture of local Slavic people and the tribes that came with Huns to these parts,and yes you both have proven that you lack courage and chivalry...maybe Bulgarians less so,they had their fair victories over us,those ones should be respected,yet their backstabbing while we were fighting both Germany and Austro-Hungaria at the same time can be picture of their manners and speak about them more than myself here. Best regards neighboors😂 I know you feel kinda scared,its a about to start...i feel it too..but you are scared because you know that you have chosen the dark side,we ain't,we never were,no matter the odds,no matter the enemy Serbian people stood on balkans defending it against of all foreign creat colonial powers,and even when we faught alone,and you all stood by the side,we did for you too. For that part of you that never had courage to say no to colonialists,and oppressors of all difrents kinds and sizes.

Hope you can together fantasise about your gratness

Agreed

@@Tommie.ManicGK Serf land would be the name, I have worked on digging archaeological excavations, there is no any traces of Serfs until late, late mid-age, and then there is only one, but the age is around 15ce, this guy is Serbian, they learn nonsense, in their history books they call them self like 10000 years old. Delusional nation, “nation” call it what you want. Basically they would be put like a buffer state, first between Croatia and Bulgaria then Croatia and Greeks then again Croatia and Bulgaria.

*pravljice imaj kod kuče*

ahahhahahahahaha

@@aloesinaloe9586 who are croats, from where they came??., and where they come? To which empire???

Ok show us some monumets or graves of croat kings,where we should go to see some evidence of your story,?in vatican farytales from 15century about croat kings who lived in 9th century?only evidence of croat king is in oplenac grave of king alexader kradjordjevic the croat

unfortunately, next 1000 years croats were under Ottomans, Hungarian, Austrians, italians, Mongols....until Serbs finally liberated croats in 1918.

@@NekoImeni Koga ste vi jadni oslobodili? ne možete ni Kosovo oslobodit a po Hrvatskoj su vas pune jame

@@NekoImeni serbs were liberated by russians (mikhail chernyayev, serbian uprising and serbo turkish-war) from turks, and by french in ww1....serbs never had any single battle or uprising against there occupiers in there whole history, not any single..thats a fact... you were actually most loyal servants to turks, mongols, byzantine and bulgarians for 1000 years...

@@KukuLele-mx8sq Lets be honest: CROATIAN GRANDMOTHERS were GANG-BANED for 900 years by TURKISH, MONGOLIAN, HUNGARIAN, SERBIAN, AUSTRIAN, ITALIAN,.....and even before that, by FRANKIAN and AVARS 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@@NekoImeni Lets be honest: SERBIAN GRANDMOTHERS were GNG-BANED for 900 years by TURKISH, ARAB, AFRICAN and ALBANIAN pashas.....and even before that, by MONGOLS, AVARS, BULGARIANS and BYZANTINES 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Serbian DNA dont lie: E1b1b (berber) + J (turkish)

Never Split was Serbian....and croatian is only 200years....venice....

​@@WOTgameplaychorantauluka The city of Split was founded as the Greek colony of Aspálathos (Aσπάλαθος) in the 3rd or 2nd century BC. It became a prominent settlement around 650 CE when it succeeded the ancient capital of the Roman province of Dalmatia, Salona. After the Sack of Salona by the Avars and Slavs, the fortified Palace of Diocletian was settled by the Roman refugees. Split became a Byzantine city, to later gradually drift into the sphere of the Republic of Venice and the Kingdom of Croatia, with the Byzantines retaining nominal suzerainty. For much of the High and Late Middle Ages, Split enjoyed autonomy as a free city, caught in the middle of a struggle between Venice and the King of Hungary for control over the Dalmatian city-states. Venice eventually prevailed and during the early modern period Split remained a Venetian city, a heavily fortified outpost surrounded by Ottoman territory. Its hinterland was won from the Ottomans in the Morean War of 1699, and in 1797, as Venice fell to Napoleon, the Treaty of Campo Formio rendered the city to the Habsburg monarchy. In 1805, the Peace of Pressburg added it to the Napoleonic Kingdom of Italy and in 1806 it was included in the French Empire, becoming part of the Illyrian Provinces in 1809. After being occupied in 1813, it was eventually granted to the Austrian Empire following the Congress of Vienna, where the city remained a part of the Austrian Kingdom of Dalmatia until the fall of Austria-Hungary in 1918 and the formation of Yugoslavia. In World War II, the city was annexed by Italy, then liberated by the Partisans after the Italian capitulation in 1943. It was then re-occupied by Germany, which granted it to its puppet Independent State of Croatia. The city was liberated again by the Partisans in 1944, and was included in the post-war Socialist Yugoslavia, as part of its republic of Croatia. In 1991, Croatia seceded from Yugoslavia amid the Croatian War of Independence en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Split The Archdiocese of Split-Macarsk ( lat. Archidioecesis metropolitana Spalatensis-Macarskensis ) is a Roman Catholic metropolitan archdiocese founded around 300 with its headquarters in Salona as the Salonitanska Diocese . Around 640, the headquarters moved to Split . Since ancient times, Split Metropolis has traditionally had primacy over other Croatian dioceses , expressed by the title of Primate of Dalmatia and the whole of Croatia (lat. Dalmatiae ac totius Croatiae primas ), which until the XIX. century worn by the archbishops of Split. [1] hr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitsko-makarska_nadbiskupija

What history did you study and where? Srbija Global Univerity with prof. Deretić?

@@tomislav_radic … According to pseudo historian Deretić , Jesus was Serbian and before that they ( the Serbs ) taught Egyptians how to build pyramids ‼️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣

@@putinwillhanginthemiddleof4866 I find North Macedonians funny when they claim Alexander the Great, Albanians when they claim the Balkans, but Serbs man, Serbs are next level. The amount of Serbs that believe in that bullshit is incredible. Not even funny anymore. Just sad.

And Croats come to the Balkan across today Slovenia. Serbs come to the Balkan across today Romania. And they are two different nations with different insignia, language, names and rulers. That bullshit like Croats and Serbs are one people is from 19th century Greater Serbia propaganda and lies.

@@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh we caim from slavic tribes our group Croats came to dalmatia and some time later we made our kingdome at the same time but like mybe year or less later serbs came and made theirs

@@hansthesoldier8700 That is all the truth! I agree with you 100%! And I know that, because I am a Croat! Be saluted!

​@@hansthesoldier8700 Croats are not Slavs In our blood you can find just 8-30% of Slavs blood depents on what part of Croatia

​@@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mhSerbs doesn't exist in history , they say till today that Latin word "servi" mean Serbs but servi mean SLAVES. Only where Serbs exits is in letters and books when Bulgarian empire clean all Raška and some slavic tribe named Serbs, ask Croatian King Tomislav for safe land. After that come Second Bulgarian empire than Ottoman, in all that Serbs doesn't exist 🤣

Any sources?

@@flyingpuma9729 any bitches?

@@flyingpuma9729 Vatican library buddy. All the sources popped up around the 19th century while catholic scholars were rewriting (cough) excuse me, I meant DISCOVERING history.

da zato smo mi uglavnom plavi, a vi hrvati tamnijeg tena i crni. bravo

​@@aleksandarjankovic39 jeste ceda jovanovic, vlade divac, aleksandar mitrovic "plavi" kako da ne...

@@barmajutta-oj8td pa svi oni navedeni vode poreklo od srba preko drine. svi dinarski narodi su tamnije kose i očiju, od ovo dvoje mitrović ima jedino svetliji ten. Ja ne kapiram da ste toliko glupi i ne shvatate neke osnovne stvari i da jesmo se mešali sa turcima i vi hrvati imate isto onda turkse gene jer ste se sami mešali sa nama i i dalje se mešate sa nama tako da muči i uči malo više, a ne šta piše na internetu.

Ja sto znam hrvata vecina su maleni i tamni🤷

Znam ,posto nemate istoriju ,ne znate gde vam je "grob i jednog hrvatskog vladara "?! Ne znate gde vam je "hrvatski novac" i kovnica novca iz srednjeg veka ,jos nije pornadjen ?! Nije pronadjena ni jedan povelja "hrvatskog vladara na hrvatskom jeziku"?! ,niti je pronadnjena i jedan Crkva "koju je izgradio hrvatski vladar"?! Pa posto znate da nemate istoriju .Nema sta drugo hajde onda , da se bavimo genetikom.To je mizda i moglo da vam prolazi dok nisu vrsena genetska istrazivanja ,na nivou Evrope . Pa ste ostali i bez toga .A jdani ste se nadali to vam je bila jednia uteha "da su srbi genetski turci ili cigani"?! Na vasu veliku zalost to nije tacno ! I tako srbi "sve sa ciganskom i turskom " genetikom dosli proseku za santimetar visi od hrvata?! 😂😂😂 Ja stavrno ne znam da li ste vi ljudi toliko glupi danas su bar dostupna genetska istrazivanje DNK analize ...I to Evropskom nivou EUPEDIA dakle postoji sajt,za svaki narod u Evropi posebno . Poklapanje izmedju srba i hrvata je oko 90% Ako se lazete medjusobno i sami sebe to je uredu . Da li ste ziasta toliko glupi da ne odete da proverite kada je to vec dostupno ,nego sami od sebe pravite budale. E1b1b je u Evropi najdominatnija kod siptara i bugara ,grka... Izmedju 24 i 28%. kod Srba zastupljena oko 15% kod hrvata oko 10%.Dominatna grupa kod Srba kao i Kod hrvata je I2a od 34 do 37% "Turska Genetika"?! Zvanicno ne postoji , oni su mesavina raznih etnickih grupa i genetike...Najdominantnija ,haplogrupa kod turaka je J2 oko 24% ,kod grka i kod siptara takodje u veliko procentu .Druga po zastupljenosti kod turaka je R1b 16% sto je zapadno evropska genetika . Turci i Srbi imaju gentnetska pokaplanja ispod 2% Da ne bude da to nije tacno i da sam ja to izmislio sajt EUPEDIA ,dao je podatke za sve narode u Evropi . Pa ko hoce neka proveri ! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FeMt-R_2wPA.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g1a6rhmmqns.html

Paganija was not Servia, nor was Dubrovnik either, all in all a very poorly done job

@@aloesinaloe9586 That is correct!

were no bulgarians in the region in 500 ad, but there were eastern rome

Fantastic comment. Bulgaria has always been in a difficuly geographical position. Such is the case with most Balkan states

Greetings. I am from Croatia and I admire Bulgarian history. Bulgaria was strongest medieval state in the Balkans after Romans and before Ottomans no doubt. During the time of Simeon the Great Croatia was further away and a little bit of the radar but Croatian king was lucky that Simeon sent his general Alogobotur in chase after the Rascian princes and didn't attempt full scale war. Nevertheless very interesting part of history.

Greetings. I am from Croatia and I admire Bulgarian history. Bulgaria was strongest medieval state in the Balkans after Romans and before Ottomans no doubt. During the time of Simeon the Great Croatia was further away and a little bit of the radar but Croatian king was lucky that Simeon sent his general Alogobotur in chase after the Rascian princes and didn't attempt full scale war. Nevertheless very interesting part of history.

Croatians created servs. Belgrade was a BULGARIAN found city

the only king in the world who did not have his own coins. was he even a king?? who said that he was the king?? vatican?? Can the Vatican be trusted??

Cope Ujko. You are chatolic Serb

@@felmaiden1094 im slavic croat you are a orthodox gypsy and turk serb...

​@@statebriga9036 You're Avar Iranian Turk catholic Gypsy.

@@orecvarkov732 Croats are slavs... serbs are turkish, arab, avar, iranian, Gypsies...just look at Ceda jovanovic or milan stankovic

@@orecvarkov732 Ur a Orthodox Serb

A large portion of Serbs who fled from the Ottoman Empire migrated to Austria Hungary where they were settled along a shifting military frontier and over the course of decades and centuries converted to Catholicism. It’s not all of Croatia’s population today, but a large part of it. Have you looked into the history of many last names in Croatia? You’ll find that when you trade their origins they originate in areas of medieval Serbia that fell under Turkish rule.

@@nikolasirovica3250 Yea Croatia to this day has its largest minority as Serbs around 5%. But I'm talking about how many Serbs claim that Slovenes and Croats are all just catholic Serbs. That isn't true, that was never true, it would be in fact the opposite cuz Croats were there first before the Serbs and Serbs mostly kept to the Eastern part of the penisula and not where they are now. The myth that Croats and Slovenes were Serbs was a propaganda by Serbian terrorist Chetniks and Milosevic to justify the war and creation of greater Serbia. And that did not die with the war but still lives on and many Serbian politicians do belive this.

​@@nikolasirovica3250actually most of serbs who fled to croatia look dark while the most croats look white... Also croats have I2 dna...while serbs have mostly E1b1b DNA... Also serbs never had surnames until 1851 unlike croats only patronymes

@@ajmo-fi7mj go to any city in Croatia and you’ll find your local Serbian orthodox cemetery and gravestones with families dating way older than 1851. The only exception might be zagorje and a few areas on the coast

@@nikolasirovica3250 most orthodox churches were Build by serbs who were settled by ottomans and destroyed catholic or even greek-orthodox churches (Hagia sofia) for example in 16 - 19. Cenutries...about gravestones, yes serbs used patronyms but not surnames, even today most serbs have surnames Like JOVANovic, MARKOvic, ZIVKOvic...what originates from patronyms, when your name was Nikola and your fathers Name is marko your Name is Nikola Markovic, and your son Name is Jovan...your sons Name is Jovan Nikolic, this goes by serbs until 1851 in croatia you got quick surnames at least 300 years earlier and there arent that much surnames who Sounds like patronyms

Catholic nemanjici have nothing to do with modern serbs..rascians were byzantine "servi" vazalls but they were not mention as people same like dukljani, zeta, paganija, zahumije etc. Modern serbian people were created by russian empire in 1851 to throw out turks from europe...and local turks, gypsies, arab, vlahs, kurds, albanians and even somali and berber were assimilated into slavs or "serbs...serbs dont look european at all just Look at ceda jovanovic or vlade divac none of them look white...but pakistani and kurd...

@@netmegets-kg5ui Absolutely true!

@@netmegets-kg5ui Your statement is correct! Serbs are an artificial nation created by an artificial hybrid construct in the 19th century! An Orthodox person is not a Serb, that is not the same thing. The Serbian Orthodox Church in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia was created in 1920 by the unification of all Orthodox churches in the territory of the newly established state. In the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, the Serbian Orthodox Church had the status of a state church, and the Serbian nation was not created on a civil basis, but on a confessional basis, as members of various nationalities from the Greek-Eastern religious body declared themselves Serbs. In 1914, the Serbs were a small nation of 4,000,000 inhabitants, and then within 76 years they "miraculously multiplied" to a significant 10,000,000 inhabitants!!! Is that possible? Of course not! Serbian ethnophyletism operationalized through the trinity; church, nation, state - he created the Serbian nation only in the 19th century! "We were Bulgarians and now we are Greeks", "we were Greeks, now we are Serbs" and the like. The example of Nikola Tesla is significant; Nikola Tesla has absolutely nothing to do with Serbs! None! Nikola Tesla is a Starovlah from Lika with two Croatian noble bloodlines, both on his father's side (Dragalić from Zadar) and on his mother's side (Kalinić from Novi Vinodolski). What is Tesla's bloodline from Serbian Šumadija, Serbian Čačak or Serbian Užice? Where is that bloodline? That doesn't exist!!! Serbs would like to be of the same blood as the genius Tesla, but they can't!!! And what would Tesla have become if he had been born in Serbia? He would become an ordinary Serbian chauvinist and a fool, and nothing else. Tesla is Croatian by birth and American by choice.

@@netmegets-kg5uiContribution for understanding the origin of Nemanjić; Stipe-Stjepan (later Stefan) Nemanjić was a scion of the higher Croatian nobility. Source: Presbyter Diocleas. Bloodline: 1. Prince Petar Trpimirović, brother of the Croatian king Mihajil Krešimir II, is the ruler of the Croatian vassal state of Duklja, 2. His direct descendant (meaning, he made it personally with his dick, the Croat Petar Trpimirović) is Stefan Vojislav, who becomes the founder of the secondary ( cadet) line of Vojislavljević, 3. One of their direct descendants will be Stefan Nemanja, the founder of the side line of Nemanjić, 4. This side line gives the rulers of Raška (1217-1331) with Stefan Uroš IV. Dušan, who will become the ruler of Serbia. Or more simply: Prince Petar Trpimirović, Croat, ruler of the Croatian vassal state of Duklje, ↧ Stefan Vojislav, half Croat, founder of the secondary (cadet) lineage of Vojislavljević, ↧ Stefan Nemanja, quarter Croat, founder of the side line of Nemanjić, ruler of Raška, ↧ Stefan Uroš IV. Dušan, the eighth Croat, ruler of Serbia. Due to the great nationalist and chauvinist pressure in Serbia, these data are not widely known, with the exception of a narrow circle of scientists who avoid the topic. We Croats understand you Serbians! Your whole life is a lie and a masquerade. 😃 But, look at it on the bright side: Trpimirovići were part of the great Croatian noble tribe of Šubić, part of their clan lineage. May it make you proud... I hope I helped!!! 🎭🎭🎭

@@josiprakovac3284 you forgot to add that croats are 50% avar 50 % ottoman= 100% gypsy blood tho...

Nope.

Author is Serbian. That is what they teach them at school, unfortunately.

@@tvrtkozelic7153 Vama je glavni izvor za istorijugrafiju mitoloski ljetopis popa dukljanina koji je nastai 300 godina poslije ovih desavanja. Za razlilu od srba o franackih i vizantinskih zapisa koji tacno opisuju granice tog doba 😀

​@@Stalker950-l3x koji su jednako mitoloski kao I bilo koji drugi izvori iz tog doba. Imas dokaze uklesane u kamen, vrlo su opipljivi. Ovo spominje se u nekom papiru koji je netko navodno nesto majkemi napisao je sve redom vasar, das 10 din mecka plese, ako nedas, ne plese😂. Uostalom kao sto Sam vec napisao, nebitno je sto je bilo prije 1000 godina. Znas dobro gdje je Hrvatska, sto je Hrvatska i sto se desava kad mislis da nije.

@@TGSSMC Najbitnije prije svega je da ja nama dobro i da smo zdravi i pravi. Sve drugo je nebitno, slaze se 😀

Croatians were invited and hired to come clear Dalmatia and inner Croatia of avars and Slav slaves(Serbs) Serbs went to Greece Albania and tried to conquer contantanople.

​@@joezadro1156Emperor gave serbian tribe lands in Thessalia, they didnt like it and wanted to go back across danube, Avars started attacking them so they started pleading Emperor to accept them back! Land was called RASCIA not serbia until 12.century ! Croats settled whole province of Dalmatia (Adriatic to Drina river). THAT IS THE TRUTH, all other is serbian propaganda and faschism !

@@joezadro1156 Ajde srbomrzac dosta vise!

​@@kralpetarkrescimeriv.terpi6043 Lies...

​@@kralpetarkrescimeriv.terpi6043 serbs are avars

Yeah thats why this is a shit video.

What about WW1 and WW2? Or how about first Balkan War?

Zašto pišeš tako o njima? Pa nisu to bili ovi današnji Srbi, već srednjovjekovni. Srbi tada nisu bili naši neprijatelji nego saveznici s kojima smo surađivali. To su bili isto Hrvati tada, samo drugog naziva. Višeslav je bio i naš knez. Čak je i Duklja vladala tadašnjom Srbijom, jedno vrijeme, a Duklja je bila isto naša tvorevina. Većina tadašnjih knezova na tim područjima, nosili su naša imena. Bjelgrad su isto osnovali Hrvati. To ti je i jedan od razloga zašto je bio ujedno i glavni grad bivše Jugoslavije. Naravno, puno toga mi Hrvati nismo ni znali jer nam konstantno brišu povijest. Evo i Kurde su čak istrijebili, samo zbog Hrvata . Ne bih ni ja znao da smo imali poveznice s njima da netko nije rekao ovdje.

He didnt save other nation but own people because he was Serb. Fore example when Skenderbeg in north Albania fought Turks, southern Albanian Toske didnt help him because they were different nation, Šiptars

@@alexandartheserb7861😂😂😂😂😂😂

😂😂😂

Split is contentious yes, however the Kingdom of Serbia controlling Ragusa (Dubrovnik) is very well documented. They eventually sold it to the Venetians.

@@kurjakhistory4727 Split is no where near contentious and Dubrovnik is neither. Where did you even get the idea that Split was Serbian ? I get Dubrovnik is subject to Serbian propaganda historiography, but Split ? Even they don't claim something that ridiculous. I did some research on Dubrovnik and I don't see where you got that the Serbs controlled it. You're gonna have to show me those sources.

@@kristijanEX Contentious means debatable, I don't think you understand this word. I am saying that Serbian control over Split is debatable. However, again, accounts of Dubrovnik being under control by Serbs is so well documented you simply need to look into it in your own time. The idea of lack of Serbian territorial presence in the Dalmatian region during the this period is quite ridiculous in fact.

​@@kurjakhistory4727 byzantines held Control over split...while it was the RASCIANS who Controlled dubrovnik and rascans are more croats then serbs...

​@@kurjakhistory4727Arapski kartograf i geograf koji je u 12. vijeku živio u Siciliji Muhamed Al-Idrisi je napisao da je Dubrovnik Grad u Hrvatskoj.

medication times.

That's right, Serbs don't exist but somehow they were the most powerful and numerous nation in the Western Balkans that literally formed Yugoslavia and put their King on the throne and somehow managed to liberate themselves from the Ottomans in well documented recent history as well as defeating the Austro-Hungarian Empire in WW1.

​​@@universalconquest4447 russians liberated serbia and montenegro from ottomans...serbs were humble servants of turks 500 years long...Also french liberated serbs in ww1

@@zrushu-qx7jq Serbia liberated itself through a number of revolutions in the 19th century. By 1878 Serbia was a kingdom. Serbia defeated Ottoman Empire in Balkan Wars 1911-1913 and liberated Kosovo and Macedonia. Serbia won WW1 and liberated all of Yugoslavia. All Christians in the Ottoman Empire were second class citizens this includes Serbs, Greeks, Bulgarians, Romanians, Hungarians, Croatians, Bosnians, Albanians, Montenegrens, Georgians, Armenians, Assyrians, Copts, etc. You sound like the jealous neighbor that's hating on his neighbor's big house, fancy car, and overall success! 🤣🤣🤣

@@universalconquest4447 serbs were liberated by russians in first and second "serbian" uprisings and also during serbo-turkish war the Main leader was mikahil chernyaev a russian...so unfortunately serbs never had a battle against turks...and also against germans in ww1 they run away from germans to greece...until Entente didnt liberate you Serbs actually were humble servants to turks and sended there women voluntary to turkish harems...just google about "doyleni" and "opanke"...turks also settled serbs as humble servants in croatia and bosnia, serbs also desteoyed several greek and bulgarian orthodox churches for there turkish masters...and today serbs have most turkish DNA even more then turks themself Neighbours big house and Fancy cars? Seriously? Serbia has the lowest IDP from every european country without tourism, economy ,infrastucture...because instead of being produktive they are creating conspirac theories and lies how everyone is evil except serbs themself

Are you stupid? Croats wouldn't have had 90 precent of their state and territory without Serbs. You would be nothing without us.

what? im not familiar with this serbian propaganda. what are you talking about?​ @oblivionroamer3582

🤣 and what hapened when you got awake

😂😂😂

Jedino je problem sto mi srbi imamo dokaza istorijske i areholoske ... Da smo postojali u najgorem slucaju kao drzava od 7-8 veka ! Eto bas ste srpski novac iskopali kod Splita pre par meseci ,Kralje Milutina Nemanjica , srebrni Dinar . Ali nikako da iskopate neki "hrvatski novac"?! Kako bre od tolike silne vase "povejsti"?! '' Jedini vladari za koje znate gde im je grob Pavelic i Tudjman ?! 🤣 "tiscljetna kluturu "?! 🤣 Setis se hrvoje ,hrvati nisu postojali do 19 veka ,kada vas je stvorila katolicka crkva . Gay i Strosmajer "veliki hrvati"?! Ustvari nemaci .Izaslanici papske kurije ,za stvaranje novih nacija . Seti se Hrvoje seti se !🤣

Thanks a lot!

Nope, both vojvoda and knez means duke in english. Prince is kraljevic.

@@madcro8209 My friend, in English they use the same word, Prince, to describe the heir to the throne in many a circumstance like ye have said, but ALSO use the title of Prince for the ruler of a Principality. Look at the Grand Principality of Moscow as a popular and somewhat applicable example. There the slavic word 'Knyaz' will be found, but the Anglophones say Prince. This stems from the Latin feudal hierarchical setups where ye will see dux and princeps used seperately for different but closely placed titles.

CROATS HAD their own titles! ->BAN - was highest title to Croats until Terpimirus Rex (King) 839-866.

All world cultures have so many things to pull from and to be proud of and Croatia is certainly one of them!

​@@kurjakhistory4727 when you see shape of modern Croatia you know who stop Turkish invasion . Please resarch battle of Gvozdansko 1578

​@@osa-mv4ivpa to je conclusion. Croatia cool😎 Serbia evil💀..sad je savrseno vrijeme sve se vidi vidis ko podrzava ruse istok to se raspada fala bogu pa 21stoljece a oni bi se igrali kraljeva i imperija mi Hrvati smo oduvjek bili odgovorni, pametni i znali kojoj strani povijesti pripadamo, E TO JE ZA PONOS!!!

@@user3r74uz3u3 nije to baš kako se čini povijest nas je različito oblikovala mislim da smo i mi i Srbi pripadali istom savezu pred Bugarima se Zaharija sklonija u Hrvatsku i sudjelovao u Ninu na saboru. Što se tiće današnje situacije mislim da će Ukrainci izvuć deblji kraj porušilo im zemlju izginili i na kraju će stranci sve kupit zelenski pobjeć s miljunima a običan narod pojest govna u ovoj situaciji smatram da su Ukrainci u krivu

I am a Croat from my father and my mother too. I am Čakavian and I know that was an ancient Croats language, before the Ottoman invasion of Croatia. So, that we are Catholic Serbs is a lie. Serbs do not understand Čakavian, because they are East Slaves and we are more like West Slaves. Even between South Slavs in the South-East of Europa ( or Balkan ).

Will try to!

After 35 years of research I have discovered that all the sources about a pre Austro-Hungarian Croatian Kingdom all came from the Vatican and catholic scholars.

Go to solin, biskupije, or read de administrado imperio...dear christian turk (so-called serb)

Maybe he took picture from Pintrest i have also found picture od Zvonimir under title of Tomislav...

Croats are slavs Serbs came from turks

Thats why this is false We were poles before coming into the balkans, not sorbs.

​@@skin4700 poles, ukrainians, croats and russians were very close to each other.. While serbs are closest to albanians, turks, kurds, arabs and africans

Hey Norman, your comment makes a lot of historical sense, as these regions were not known as Serbia until some time later, though not quite as far into the future as the 18th century. The mindset to have with this period of Serbian history is that a lot of these early medieval counties and regions, such as Zachlumia, Pagania, Duklja, Travunia and most prominently Raška formed the foundation for later Serbia culture to develop. At around the early 12th century the Nemanjic dynasty would found what would be known regionally and Europe wide as the Kingdom of Serbia. This would be an orthodox slavic kingdom that would last until the end of the 14th century. Furthermore, it can be seen that Serbian culture (even though there was no country of Serbia) propagated strongly through the Balkans. An example is King Tvrtko Kotromanic signing his official documents as 'King of Bosnia and the Serbs' and how Most noble families provided letters to the Vatican in what they described as latin and serbian. Therefore, the common interpretation is that the above regions can be thought of as 'serbian'. Please let me know is there is anything that isn't clear or that you would like to discuss further. Sve najbolje.

@@kurjakhistory4727 as you know with the written history of George from NIN probations were split between old slavonic Christianity and Latin Christianity The history is very clear that the region you mention has very superficial connections to what became Serbia in the 19th century.. this is what you need to study is the creation of the Serbian monarchy.. who helped create it and why?

No Norman I do not know what you mean by 'George from NIN'. Also would be interested in your interpretation of the Nemanjic dynasty and how it plays a role in all of this. Your point on the connections being made being superficial is great, as any notion that these Kingdoms, Principalities, duchies and so forth having a direct correlation or being the direct ancestor of modern day 21st century countries is ridiculous. Any citizen of Ex-Jugoslavia should therefore have equal interest and sympathy for this entire regions history. For example a Croatian an interest and connection to the orthodox regions mostly described as being Serb and a modern day Serbian having an interest in dalmatian and central croatian history despite those lands belonging to the Republic of Croatian in the current times. Also you seem to be coming at this from a conspiratorial angle by posing the idea 'who helped create Serbia and why' which is very bizzare considering the thousands upon thousands of Serbian literature and art predating the 'propped up' kingdom as you describe it.

Grgur Ninski I respect that later political entities were created to make nations of Bosnians and Slovenians The strongest history in the region is that of the Croatian the other group splintered at some point

@@kurjakhistory4727 well there is dusan who is king of the serbs and the greeks :)

Croats had kingdom back when gypsy-serbs rpd goats in iranian mountains

No wonder then that they wanted to exterminate the Kurds. Well, everything that has to do with us, others wanted to erase from the face of the earth. 😂

Yes, they ruled it. Byzantine & frankish documents actually prove this. The first serbian king Michael (crowned by pope gregory VII in 1077) has built a church on ston. The Kurvats didn´t move over the Cetina river during ther entire statehood that lasted till 1102.

@@Stalker950-l3x smrdians dont exist in middle ages only rascans...smrdians are created in 1851, created by turks, gypsys, arabs, vlahs, mongols etc.

​@@Stalker950-l3x it doesn't really matter what happened 1000 years ago. you know where Croatia is, it will stay here for the next 1000 years.

​@@Stalker950-l3xHAHA You mean King Michael "Ruler of the one calling Croats" go to that Church in Ston and see CROATIAN CROWN on Michael head! And the scripture that is saying that! Serbs are LIARS 😂 Your history until 12.century is based on assumptions 🤣

Made it myself. Started from Google earth height maps and tracing the current ruins of the castle. Thanks for watching!

@@kurjakhistory4727 Thats smart. Thanks for replying!

Thank you Ivan, are there any topics, people or countries you would like me to cover in future?

@@kurjakhistory4727 Yes, I would love to see a video about Bulgaria and its relation to the Slavic migration and Slavic tribes in general.

@@ivandeliyanov1395 aldou his maps are terible

Thanks a lot, working on a real nice video coming soon!

Tako je. Svi smo mi izvorno Iliri, Slaveni su samo nastavak Ilira. Nismo od nikuda došli, već smo na ovim prostorima oduvijek i ovim jezikom pričamo oduvijek. Nacije i nacionalizam su nastali tek u 19. stoljeću. Hrvatska, srpska, bosanska i šiptarska nacija je plod austrougarske politike koja je nastojala od jednog naroda, Slavena, napraviti više izmišljenih naroda kako bi nas podijelili i tako lakše vladali. Šiptari su u Europu tek došli u 11. stoljeću s Kavkaza, zato oni ovdje nisu starosjedioci i ne mogu nikako biti potomci Ilira. Također moram dodati da su Slaveni danas(Rusi, Česi, Poljaci, Ukrajinci...) potomci južnih Slaveni, odnosno isti je to narod koji je otišao u razne krajeve Europe. Pozdrav i živ bio.

As the Hungarians were, and are still, the majority in the Pannonians basin, it is the other way around.. the Croats are partly Avars-Hungarians.

Those weren't Serbs,but Zaharije was Knez from Raška(Rvaška,Hrvaška) or in Croatian he was Knez Raški(Knez Rvaški,Knez Hrvaški)! It was a Catholic Duchy... There is no Serbs mentioned...

Da samo nema dokaza da je kralj Tomislav postojao

Ima....bugarski zapisi, rat bugara i hrvata

@@josip958 vasi istoricari kazu da nema konkretnih dokaza da je kralj Tomislav postojao nema cvrstih dokaza

@@josip958 kod vas je sve neprovereno

Thank you, planning on making a history of Skanderbeg soon!

@@kurjakhistory4727 thx❤️ he was really a great warrior, I read a lot about him. He was a crazy Gladiator also, never lost a fight.

Duklja, Raška, Bosna, Zahumlje, Travinua, Paganija were considered Serb districts, inhabitant by baptized and unbaptized Serbs. Together forming grand principality of Serbia

@@M.vukasinovic-x4r But the name Serbia/Serbs is not mentioned anywhere before 1100-1200. They are mentioned as Raska or Duklja, although I don't know what they have to do with each other, apart from the territorial one, with a gap of several hundred years

@@rp4all584 that is not true. look no further than DAI and the Frankish annals. DAI mentions Serbs and the city they inhabit naming cities located in today Bosna, Dalmatia, Serbia and Kosovo in the later known Metohija plain and so on. it also describes the by me listed districts (first comment) as Serb inhabited lands. Those were districts ruled by Zupans but ruled by a grand prince, zupan etc, later king and czar. unfortunately Serbs are crazy snd fight against each other as perfectly described in the video. Not only that but Serbs have been recorded as far as Greece in Macedonia, Thessalia etc. The Frankish annals mention Serbs as Inhabting the majority of Dalmatia. All this happened prior 1100-1200. I don’t know what narrative your trying to push but if your doubting Serb identity you’ll shoot yourself in the leg. Archeologically, literature and primary sources the Serb identity is very strongly established.

@@M.vukasinovic-x4r I'm not trying to push any narrative!! Mention of Serbia/Serbs... John Kinnamos, 12th century. John Skylitzes, 12th century too. The earliest Constantine Porphyrogenitus, 10th century. As for the Frankish annals, could you be more specific where exactly? Are they original or Einhard's!? 😀 Sorry for my ''interest'' of Balkan history,,

@@rp4all584 DAI is published 9 or 10 century, that’s earlier than you claimed (11-12 cent.) as for the Royal Frankish Annals they are from the late 8th century. What is wrong with Reinhard? He was a Frankish scholar and main author of the Royal Frankish annals along with Bishop Hilduin. Nothing wrong with your interest but it don’t understand what you don’t get?

Check again man. He was crowned King of the Serbs. The fact that recently Croats like to give that name is irrelevant. Also, Tvrtko's brothers name is Vuk.

He did not know that he is croat, none exist at that time with that name in old Bosna, poor king tought that he is just ortodoh srbin😅

Not a Serb or a Croat, but a Bosnian, who calls himself that in his charters. Get the hell out of Bosnia and the theft of our history!

It was ruled by Venice, not Croats

@@ЗоранХулк Nope

​@@ЗоранХулк dubrovnik was independent...split etc. were venice...territoy of modern serbia was turkish

@@barmajutta-oj8td and i said that for Dubrovnik.About Serbia,she was one period ocupied by Otomans from 1459-1848, but Croatia lost suverenity from around 1000 until 1991...almost tousend years

@@ЗоранХулк serbs were loyal servants of turks...they gave there daughers to turkish pashas and thats wjy they have turkish genes

Fake information.

There is a grave in solin, biskupije...table of bashka... While serbs are made by turks in 19. Cenutry Serbs = Christian turks

Burried in biskuplije... Why do serbs as slavs, look like pakistanis and arabs? (ceda jovanovic, slavko aleksic, vlade divac, novak djokovic etc.)

Where is a grave of Jesus Christ?Karlo the great?Spartacus? No grave,they didnt exist?Pretpostavljam da si Srbenda.U ne takoj dalekoj povijesti pokušali ste nam izbrisati svaki trag,povijest i dokaz postojanja.Šta misliš koliko su nas mrzili Turci i koliko su grobova oskrnavili i povijesnih kršćanskih,hrvatskih crkava,spomenika,kapelica,mauzoleja?I ne samo oni,Bugari,Mađari,Srbi...Znaš šta vam je svima zajedničko?Svi ste izgubili rat protiv Hrvata.

Probably somewhere under Kalamegdan considering he liberated it from the Bulgarians for you.

@@eddybulich3309 best answer ever...ljubav brate ❤️ Hrvatska!

Oh.... This guy is a Serf for sure, just look at his channel. Man there is no Serbia till late, late mid-ages. There are no artifacts no scripts nothing, you have probably learned this at Serfian school, just like you learn that Serfs are here for, is it 14,000 years? It is between 4and 14k years. Anyway, this is completely wrong, and I work with historians on digging archaeological excavations, so yes.

croats are clear slavs... While serbs are slavized ottoman (turks, gypsys, arabs, kurds etc.) Who became slavic after russian Invasion of balkans... Most serbs look more pakistani then russian, polish or croatian (slavic) look at ceda jovanovic, vlade divac, aleksandar vucic, nemanja radonjic, radisa urosevic etc. All of them look more pakistani then slavic

croats are clear slavs... While serbs are slavized ottoman (turks, gypsys, arabs, kurds etc.) Who became slavic after russian Invasion of balkans... Most serbs look more pakistani then russian, polish or croatian (slavic) look at ceda jovanovic, vlade divac, aleksandar vucic, nemanja radonjic, radisa urosevic etc. All of them look more pakistani then slavic Read demography of ottoman traveller evliya celebi...95% of the population of modern territory of serbia and montenegro was muslim (mostly turkish, kurdish, karavlah, albanian, arap and even somali and north-african) After russian empire liberated most of balkans...most of the muslim population was assimilated and the so-called "serbian nation" was created...vuk karadzic (a turk by origin) created the "serbian language" what is a Mix of croatian language and ottoman turkish language...the serbian king karadjordje was a albanian by origin (gjin marash kelmendi was his real name)...serbia is just a fake nation created by russians to push out the ottoman...you will not find A SINGLE evidence of existence of serbian nation before ottoman empire... Lets look at serbian genetics: 12% slavic, 30% north-african (Ev13) 30% middle eastern (J2).... Serbian food...turkish burek, baklava, cevap, kajmak, ajvar, fasuliye, corba etc. Serbian music: arabic turbofolk, romani trubace... Serbian folk-costumes: turkish Fez, sajkaca, subara... And a lot more things

Serbs are created by turks in 19. Cenutry...serbs are ottoman and gypsy... Croats are slavs

U solinu i biskupiju

На основу твог маштања или историјских доказа? Којих?

What about table of bashka? Holy church of Mary in solin? Church of nin...frustrated christian turk (so-called serb)

And you are simply Turkish. Serbs in Bosna are orthodox Croats who forgot who their grandfathers were.

Croats are actually slavs...croats look usually polish and russian while serbs look pakistani and arab...just Look at ceda jovanovic, vlade divac or aleksandar vucic

Avars are actually serbs...croats are slavs Serbs are predomately Ev13 (north african) and J2 (turkish)...Also dubrovnik cant be serbian because people in dubrovnik are white (like croats), while every serb look pakistani and arab

@@nuvon-kn3se According all world genetic scientists from very begining 20 years ago, Albanians are mostly north African E haplogroup immigrants. So your claim looks like try to excape Albanian immigrants deportation back to Africa, but that will not stop it.

​​​@@alexandartheserb7861 actually 30% of serbs and montenegrins are slavized albanians, beginning of karadjordje (gjin marash kelmendi) until ivica dacic (daqi or thaqi) or even aleksandar vuqi...serbs have nearly as many ev13 as albanians...while croats and bosnians have predomately I2 So you admit that you are north african immigrant?

@@nuvon-kn3se Yes there is about 20% E haplogroup Serbs also but most of them are from older E Greek immigrants, and probably some ex Skipetars too. But majority od north Albanians, Gege are Balkan native I2 Serbs. Like we in Bosnia. For example, my old brotherhood Maleši in Herzegovina is similar to north Albanian Malisori. But, those Albanians due high influence of E haplogroup, 40%, changed language and identity from rest of us I2.

Zdravo Aleksa! For the maps I used final cut pro to keyframe animate the masks of solid layers and then 3D software Blender to make the animations.

John Skylitzes (Byzantine 11th century contemporary historian) describes Stefan Vojislav as Archon of the Serbs and of Serbia. It is clear from written evidences that these sub-states such as Zeta, Duklja, Raška etc. were seen as Serbian counties and states. The term 'Crna Gora' or 'Montenegro' was first used to describe the wider mountain range around the 14th century. Culturally, there is no real meaningful distinction to make between Serbian and Montenegrin culture. This video describes as you mentioned Duklja as Serbian as this is how it was refered to at the time period in question.

@@kurjakhistory4727 Great explanation.

Thanks so much, looking to make more videos soon

@@kurjakhistory4727 thanks, you can also check mine

Serbian history is as real as the movie "lord of the rings" Serbs are turkic and arab, croats are slavs

Because they were slaves (latin for servi) 😂😂😂😂😂 read de administrado imperio

​@@erian-jw8fdbut you don't understand on Serbs Latin language "servi" mean Serbs 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@ariansegota7944 i know serbs come from servi...its not a Name for people or a tribe...modern serbs were created by turks in 19th cenutry they do t have anything to do with old rascians

Serbian history is a big fairytale

@@user-nm1gz6cm7h there is no one single material artefakt which supporting your ‘fairytale’… I know you need to ‘hate’ what actually you are!

@@pericadurdevic8246 you are right...there is not any Single Material Artifact that proof existence of serbian people before ottoman...serbs are mostly assimilated turks, roma, karavlahs and albanians, while croats are original slavs

Jasenovac death camp in ww2?

Says the serbian gypsy who is jeleaous that croats are closer to brother russians by culture amd genetics then orthodox turks and arabs (so-called serbs) 😂😂😂😂😂

serbs were liberated by russians (mikhail chernyayev, serbian uprising and serbo turkish-war) from turks....serbs never had any single battle or uprising against there occupiers in there whole history, not any single..thats a fact... you were actually most loyal servants to turks, mongols, byzantine and bulgarians for 1000 years...