Is 34-36 lands still a rule if I have a lot of mana ramp cards in my deck? Like: Sol Ring Jet Medallion Pearl Medallion Land Tax Dark Ritual Crypt Ghast Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth Nirkana Revenant Nykthos, Shrine To Nyx Cabal Stronghold or Cabal Coffers That's what I did, plus: Bojuka Bog, Command Tower, Crumbling Vestige, 5 Orzhov lands, then I put only 6 Plains and 10 Swamps.
i have a edgar deck..pretty much built the way u said...alot of tap lands. or basics...and high cmc curve... around 3ish...but people see edgar and GO EVIL NO!!! high power..but hes not...cause he actually sucks.so i made him suck...SUCK YOUR BLOOD THAT IS!!! MUAHHH ..
There are cards in here I question and just think there is better removal and card draw in those colors. But if that works for you I applaud it. I am really surprised your play group has not started running suncleanser or solomity in their decks. I think there is a green card with a similar anti player counter effect. Either way happy the deck works for you, and if it is fun for you to play and for others to play against it I would not change anything. Since that is what games are supposed to be, fun for everyone.
I find myself making a deck on moxfield to save the build somewhere and then I tear them apart when I get bored and make my a better more interesting deck
Doesnt always work but think the simplest two part answer is "are you playing a theme deck or are you playing combo to win". Theme deck meaning are you playing somthing tribal, like Dragons/Zombies/Goblins/Elfs/ or a combination of tribes. Or are you playing combo which means you care little about the theme or flavor of the deck and just care how efficient it is. Theme decks are fluffy and are built cause it sounds like a, and here is to some a dirty word, "Fun" idea to play. Combo deck is just that, a combination of cards that does or aims to do x the most efficient way.
Or you could just not spend north of 500 on one deck of cards and find people and set a price. You can get starter commander decks sold at the LGS for 40 bucks. "He got to the end of the rainbow and it was cornflakes."
Setting a price for the group is the surest way to play a fair game. And no, you have like 50 to 1 odds in winning sitting down at a highly tuned table with decks over 500 bucks with your precon deck you bought behind the counter.
Maybe I'm not smart enough to understand but unless you have Pariah or Pariah Shield or something similar, Ashling kills itself on activation. While yea that won't matter too much if you ramp hard, it still costs a total of 12 mana the third time you bring her out and 3 damage board wipe. That's what I have a Torbran deck for. 1 cost deal 1 damage to all opponents and their creatures turns to 3 damage with Torbran. Same scenario as Ashling only costs 9 (if Torbran gets cast a third time plus 1 mana sorcery)
In my experience, using three colors is frustrating. Because there're three colors worth of card choices, it really makes choosing and cutting cards really difficult. I've played temur for years and while I enjoyed my time playing that combination, it was relieving when I found a commander in simic that I liked better instead.
One of my favorite commanders to build of the past year was Nashi, Moon’s Legacy. While it seems a bit open ended and vague, I built it as Sultai Legend-tribal Voltron, the exact opposite color combo you’re expecting for a voltron equip deck. But there’s something incredibly satisfying about casting a Hammer of Nazahn from your graveyard, it attaching itself to Nashi, then flashing in a Black Blade Reforged for an instant lethal commander damage. I encourage anyone give them a try as theres a lot of ways you can build Nashi, the other route i was considering was sultai discard staxs, recycle a lot of the discard/ max hand size reducing rat cards to squeeze your opponents out of draws and lock the game down, or even if you just wanted a Rat commander they do relentless rats fairly well while being one of the few not-mono-black tribal commanders.
Kind of a dumb question but why would you put any "ramp" card that only gets you a land in hand and not switch it with... More lands? Like, you're searching for the land, sure, but you wouldn't have to if it was already a land. If it doesn't actively puts a land in play, just... Replace it with a land.
This vid was definitely not for me. I don't play to win I play to have fun. Winning is not fun for me. Seeing mine or someone else's deck pop off and do the cool thing is fun. But anyways, this is definitely for someone just not for me. P.s. - I don't have to leave a comment, but doing so engages the algorithm for you my friend 😊
I have both Ashling and Felix, both are very fun. The Grand Larceny precon had a pretty good shell for Felix, I swapped out 20 cards and a total of $20 and it seems to perform very well.
Man, I was hoping you were going to something else than voktron for jeskai. Jeskai is definitely a voltron color combo especially based on it's philosophy.
In our club we have a special table where people play only precon decks. And they really have a lot of fun. Most of them have much stronger decks, but they play precons for fun. Because the decks designed by wizards are awesome in terms of having a wholesome game where no one can win on the spot or lock other players from the game.
Mono red landfall and you didn't pick Moraug is interesting. I have a moraug deck and it goes hard when you get 5 landfalls in a turn people are always surprised it's one of my favorites
I had a friend who built an ashling deck we were playing commander he was late and didn’t have a deck so he opened his binder got out ashling and 97 mountains an ozolith and urza saga he lucked out with drawing the saga it was fun and unexpected how quickly he snowballed
Built the deck myself minus a few of the big expensive cards, and wow. What a deck! That win rate is no joke and it is so fun to play with. Not sure it’s so fun for the others to lose against pretty consistently though! 😅😂
I just cut an Unwinding Clock and a Clock of omens from Breya and placed them in my Alela Artful Provocateur deck. In that deck I also have artifacts and I combined it with the faeries Precon, so I mostly play in other people's turns, so even if they do work in Breya, I really don't have much instant speed stuff (other than tutors) so yeah. I think a great way to understand cutting cards and enhancing strategies building 2 decks where you can tinker with them and make them different enough that they feel and play Unique. Breya is Combo and the Faeries are tempo. I also have a Mishra deck from Brothers War ( My brother has Urza) and we're always battling it out and trying to exchange cards that fit eachothers strategies best. That's why I love commander
I think you missed the point of a landfall deck. Landfall is specifically caring about lands entering the battlefield. Ashling isn't a landfall deck, that's a big mana deck. Just because you want a lot of mana doesn't mean you are playing a lands matter or landfall deck
Yeah... describing a burn-the-table-out deck as a landfall deck and a red color pie "break" is just odd. All that was shown is that the deck is mana hungry and needs a lot of ramp...
Yeah. When he called a red landfall deck, I got excited because I am playing an actual landfall deck and I am always looking for ways to make it faster. Thinking maybe there was some little known red ramp spell that I missed but this is just colorless ramp that everyone and their mother already knows about anyway.
I will say that the Ashling deck is particularly creative, but the color pie is less and less restricted with each new set. In statistical probability, we could say 5/2000 cards is not a lot, but if it's a sub theme you want in your mono colored deck, it's enough to push the envelope. When you start to get up to 3 colors, it might be more like 50/6000. This is definitely enough for a theme, though still statistically insignificant as less than 1% of all cards that could go in the deck match the theme. It's still nice to see creative builds, but Felix is a Commander built precisely for what you're doing. Magic themselves "broke the pie" on that one. And really, all they did was sneak green into the mix of ninjas and rogues, which makes sense and is a fun commander to see. Your Narset build is a little unconventional for Jeskai, but not the biggest stretch as Bant Enchantress and Boros Equipment could easily have a baby and toss the green. But it is an exercise in creativity to think through fun ways to build commanders that aren't commonly seen. Definitely like how you stretched the most with Ashling and would love to see more like that. Even the Narset one is interesting enough as well.
Biggest pie break I ever brewed was a monoGreen Storm deck for Kogla, the Titan Ape. Turns out his bounce ability goes infinite with untap etbs and/or Humans that provide big mana. There are WAY more of them than you think. King Kong Combo on TappedOut, if anyone is interested.
The REAL problem with the last few years in mtg is that simply put, there literally is NO color pie. They've shoe-horned in every single once color specific strength into every other color. That's why white is absolutely ATROCIOUSLY unbalanced currently, with green being a very very close competitor as the "5 color mono color". There is no pie anymore. Design team/s threw it in the dumpster and the stray magic players are feasting it up. This is the hard truth.
I had noticed this in deck building trends over the years. Boros and mono white were jokes or places to run pet cards. Now my pod runs decks from Feather spell slinger to Elesh Norn landfall that easily crush precons. And mono green is always explosive. Storm, voltron, combo, control. Green does it all.
@@SteamClockWork "I wish red/white deckd were janky, unplayable crap" is a very interesting take to have. Boros and mono white decks SHOULD have the ability to be good decks, like any other color(s). They should just still have some actual downsides and weaknesses.
@@Zakading I read it more as highlighting the trend. How vast and fast the change from white being the worst mono color to becoming the most rounded one has been. The order of colors changing itself isn’t a problem. It’s the fact that they have given the color basically everything and in vast quantities in just couple years. I love building mono / two color decks for their limitations. However more and more it’s becoming not having access to somethings and about just having a smaller pool of cards to select from.
I started back in 2012 when cards like supreme verdict, possibly storm, and primordial hydra was in standard. Honestly it’s been hard to keep up with everything now because there are just so many cards to remember lol 😂
Let's be honest, the deck only becomes unstoppable if there is no NO FUN ALLOWED blue deck on the board. There is no much Otha can do against something like a Stasis lock deck or a Stax Commander... It's a very "friendly" built deck to have a good fun with friends and other ppl. But ain't unstoppable against any no friends, no fun allowed decks.
As a casual player I wouldn't have the first clue what people are telling me about their decks in a rule zero conversation. All I know is I always lose against decks with proxy cards.
5:35 I feel like this is one of the problems for me, I don’t play that much anymore so even the 11 decks that I have is too much. And I am hesitant to take my old decks apart because I have so much nostalgia to them. Maybe I need to get over it and just take some apart Some of those I am even only hesitant to take apart just because I regret buying the cards for it
So I have 6 decks and I haven’t built anymore. I run 1 of each mono color, and then a WUBRG deck. They all fit different power levels of niches. Emry, artifact combo - CEDH-(ish) Sheoldred, the apocalypse, Wheel / slugs - 8 Light paws, Voltron/Pillowfort - 7 Norin the wary, ETB shenanigans-6 Shizuko, Group hugs - 5 Sliver overlord, tribal - 8 I’d rather have a small collection of decks I’ve invested a lot of time in learning and playing. And my rule is, if I want to build a new one, I need to deconstruct an old one. I was considering to amend the rule to allow for one pre con deck with no changes, just for really low power tables, I’ve been defaulting to shizuko, or norin for those tables, norin has a pretty low amount of interaction, and the interaction shizuko runs usually has benefits for everyone interaction. But just because the plans are still well defined I find they can be a little overwhelming to pre con tables.
I'm a jund fanatic, personally. The overwhelming card quality it gets plus the boardstates it can achieve while still being a consistent threat throughout a game makes it so interesting and fun to play; it always feels like I can be the villain at any point. Not to mention all of the really cool commanders it gets (Yurlok and Coram are my two favorites).
