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I bought the same monitor today. Neo G8 really gives an image very close to the lively OLED panel. I love it, but I'm still not quite sure whether to use it with HDMI or DP. Which one do you think is better?
I had the 120mm versions of this (DC, not PWM), laying around for years after I built in a fractal case, I put them aside because I thought stock case fans were garbage. Here I am almost four years later seeing that people like these fans, and they are $22+ on Amazon. I think mine top out at 1300rpm and are near completely silent. Doesn't feel like they move too much air though, I have them blowing up at my GPU.
I would say they have 1 good feature. Its from other reviews online. they draw very little power so in specialized circumstance they are ideal like the fan swap in a synology NAS where fans that draw more power just wont work. But yep for general PC uses you hit the nail on the head.
These fans seem to have such insane performance. I'll be putting six in the front of my case in a push pull config with an ek quantum surface x360 (there'd be some jank to direct the airflow well) or x420 rad. I have a 50Litre 4u Server case with a 4090 and 7800x3d. All water cooled including ram and I currently have a single 360 rad in the case (hwl black ice nemesis 360 gtx) and a pci passthrough with qdc's for a mora 420. Ideally I want the pc to be able to run entirely independently from the mora with no issue which is why I'll be doing the ek rad since they have low airflow restriction vs other rads and perform really well. Since it's a 4u server case my only option is putting the two rads in line with each other but from the testing I've seen with these fans they're really good for radiators with static pressure and airflow even vs 3000rpm fans. Watched STS's review of them before this video and it's insane how well they perform and how the only fans beating them are a lot louder and a lot higher rpm. These fans are insanely impressive and I can't wait to have them in my system.
I expected them to be in the upper 3rd for performance and pretty much overshadowed by either performance or price to performance putting them in that blackhole where they're basically unrecommendable, but I didn't expect them to actually be that average in performance. Anyways, could you test the 140mm Noiseblocker NB e-Loop? They should be decent in static pressure situations.
Ill look into the NB loop 140. I tested but havent release the video yet for the 120. So the NF-P12 is good for like fan swaps in a Synology NAS vs stock fans. Since they have tight power requirements where like the A12x25 just wont work. But ya other than specialized circumstances the Redux isnt really recommended.
Well I am a small channel with out a dedicated test system. So I cant do temps. I have been building up the money from patron and youtube to save up to buy a test system for this channel.
I think the Phanteks T30, Iceberg Thermal Icegale Xtra 120, Super Flower Megacool 120, and Hyte THICC FP120 (and possibly others) are missing in the last two charts (chart 4/5 and 5/5) at 12:43.
Thicc is ther Rank 5 at 100% ooler (Cooler) text is cut off. T30 is ranked 5 as well, Megacool 1, There is a lot of admittedly hard to read text on the raw data screen. Its everything that was used for the graphs just missing the graphs.
@@computer-tech-more I just checked again. Those fans are not in the 4th and 5th charts. I see those fans on the 3rd chart but not 4th and 5th. Also, what are the 4th and 5th charts? They just say "Noise Normalized" and "100%". Of what though? Air speed? CFM? Air pressure? Free air? Through cooler? Through rad? Also, I think you should separate 140 and 120 mm results but that's just personal opinion.
@@Spinelli__ Its because they didnt place in the top 30 in case airflow. So Table 1 is best overall taking an average of all scores. Table2 is bes noise normalized (if they placed in the top 27), Table 3 is best at 100% pwm (if they ranked in the top 26) and tables 4 and 5 are case airflow (if they ranked in the top 30 for that test) so each table is just ranking in that test. and fans that didnt place in that test will not be shown.
@@computer-tech-more Still doesn't make sense. At 100% fan speed, those fans I mentioned shouldcertainly, easily, be in the top 30. Think about what you're saying. You have a P12 non-Max and a Pure Wings 3 120 in table 5 yet no T30, Megacool 120, Icegale Xtra 120? So a P12 non-Max and a Pure Wings 3 120 give better/more case airflow at 100% fan speeds than T30, Megacool 120, Icegale Xtra 120, etc.? Come on, that's Ludacris, man.
@@Spinelli__ Even at high RPM's some fans have such bad airflow patterns that they score low in the case test. If you rewatch the Thicc video it actually does fairly badly in the case test. the Thicc Ranked 112th overall from all fans at 100%. The T30 ranked 27 at 100%, MegaCool 20th at 100%, IceGale Exta 3rd, I then made the decision to just use the same fans from Noise Normalized for the 100% ranking, because most of the time case fans should be running at low RPM's. and to simplify the review. Since most people dont want their PC to sound like a hurricane haha.
Thanks for another video. It would be helpful if you could title the charts. Eg. At 12:43, there are 5 columns of charts, none of the 5 have titles so the viewer doesn't really know what they're looking at.
The Green Text bars are the titles, but ya not really easy to read. Left to Right: Best Overall (Avg score), Cooler Noise normalized, Cooler 100%< Then case Simulation test distances
The Arctic P12 Max is very weak according to my unscientific hand-feel and paper-fluttering tests. At the same or near-same RPM, the Cooler Master Mobius High Performance OC blows more air, harder, and a further distancer...and the Iceberg Thermal Icegale Xtra, Phanteks T30, and Super Flower Megacool 120 (and possibly the Hyte THICC FP120 - I haven't owned/tested one) completely and utterly obliterate not only the P12 Max but the Mobius HP OC as well. I did testing in free air (least important), pull-intake (Cooler Master HAF 932 side-panel), and on a Hardware Labs GTR radiator which is about 150-200 % the air-restrictiveness of the HW Labs GTX due to a much different design despite both being "16 FPI on paper" . Unlike the GTX, the GTR has a double fin design, different fin thickness, different fin height, louvered fins, and more coolant tubes all within the same size radiator core which effectively makes it something like 24-32 FPI. In all 3 environments (free air, case intake, rad), the P12 Max was easily, easily the weakest in all 3 categories (amount of air, distance, how hard it hits) with both tests "objects" (hand, paper).
I upgraded the ram and ssd . Now my asus sitrix g17 KB isn't working. Kb lights as well. Rogg symbol on the outside lits up though. The 2 cables for rgb lights are linked to KB as well?
Great review! Ive bought 3 of those for 15$ (all 3!). Brand new, some guy take them from aio to swap them for white Arctic argb fans :) So i was curious how they perform and not bad at all. Happy to have them ;) also for people looking for advice if you buy them (or have them laying around) and those were also from aio, have in mind this version has different cable not just standard 4-pin pwm but 7-pin (pwm signal and led) to connect with splitter. If you can and know how making new cable is easy but if its to hard just cut some plastic and connect to standard 4-pwm with that method the led dosent work. But as was said in review it depends if the price was good :p
If the O11 can fit 140's use either the toughfan 14 pro or the P14/ 14max. if you dont care about RGB If you like RGB I have a separate round up video. I cant recall which tested the best.
Hello can you please tell me is there a big difference between TOUGHFAN 14 PRO and TOUGHFAN 14 in noise. It seems that the pro version is better but it is not available in white which is a must Thanks in advance
@@computer-tech-more Thanks man, that helps me a lot. I asked Toughfan support and they aren't planning on making a white version of the Pro variant. Do you know a model that has similar performance to TOUGHFAN 14 but in white and quiet. Thanks in advance ♥️👍
@@pepijarak3393 I actually dont keep track of color of the fans. sorry. You would need to see what brands have white and see if i have a review or just ask if I reviewed a specific fan. I have a huge backlog of videos coming out of fans already tested.
@@computer-tech-more Hello, I would be very happy if you gave me a recommendation for a 14mm PC fan which is very quiet and can generate a high static pressure. No RGB. My top pick after your videos is the TOUGHFAN 14 PRO. Thank you in advance and for all the work you do ❤
The Iceberg Thermal Icegale Xtra 120 is a little superior to the Noctua iPPC 120 according to your tests in 100%, non-noise normalised tests but the Noctua is clearly superior in their 140 versions according to your tests. That means, relatively speaking, that either the Icegale 140 is not as good as it's 120 version or the Noctua 140 is better than it's 120 version, or a bit of both. So, in 120 versions of all out performance (no more than 30 mm and no more than 3000-ish RPM), the T30, Super Flower Megacool, and Icegale Xtra are king while the iPPC remains king at 140 unless the Megacool has something to say about that. I hope you test the Megacool 140 soon.
Hello, I read somewhere that these fans cant really go below 900rpm stable, is that true? And are they quiet at that speed? When im just browsing or smthng like that I want dont want to hear my pc all the time, thanks
@@computer-tech-more tyvm for answering, I have one more question though, im getting 3x p12 max for my radiator and want to get 4 p14 max for the rest of my case but does it even help to get the max version for just case fans? in terms of noise and / or temps I mean
Hi, i have a Lian li 011 XL with a 4090fe (vertical) and 30c ambient temps, what fans to you suggest as case fans using filters (so i think they will need to have good static preassure), i will buy 7 or them.
ya. I remember I had some old fans in like the mid 2000's they were great for the time. But thinking back they were loud compared to what I use now. At similar RPM's.
It does run hot and lots of power. It would be good for a budget but I am leaning to build a new system in the next 6 month. AMD is looking good. Skip intel 13th and 14th.
Same logic here I already have Steelseries GG. I am also planning on getting this but the connection is outdated still using micro-USB. When Type-C is already the norm Steelseries still using micro-USB.
@@computer-tech-more do you think it’s better than TOUGHFAN 14 Pro ( they cost more) it’s like $30. So I’m trying to choose the best one. I want it to be quiet
@@musclecargarage2875 So I dont think the T30 is the best 120 any more. For the ultra high end i think its the Superflower megacool 120. From what i have tested As for P14max vs Toughfan14 pro. Its are you cooling a Rad or cooler vs cooling the case. The Toughfan is a slightly better case fan while the P14max is a better cooler fan, especially due to its higher RPM.
I think I notice this a lot between the videos, especially since they're not released in the order that you've performed the tests. The Noctua A12x25 performance, being non-representative of the most recent results, is quite underrated when compared using its older measurements to other fans.
I think ive said it before. some where along the way I had to re-test fans and updated results. I basically re-reran fans that appeared lower than I thought. SO I had to back track when the change happened. It error was only in the cooler testing. So the round up is the newest best data.
I have a question: if I remember correctly, the Lian Li AL140 V2 have lower thickness compared to the AL120 V2, so why there is so much difference in performance between the two? Especially on cooler, the 120 would perform way better in theory, right?
Brother can you please tell me if A Seagate firecuda 530 2 tb SSD comes with a heatsink can fit into the laptop or have to remove the heatsink from the SSD to install in the laptop? Because the laptop is thin.
So in theory yes but with dual tower coolers you can run into a problem with the middle fan. coolers like that are often tuned to the fans used in them. So swapping the middle fan can result in more noise. I dont have the data for that. I would not replace just the front fan because then you have a much higher speed fan pushing air into a lower speed fan.
both. For Testing I manually control the fans but for daily use i use FanControl. Its a piece of software off github. I think I made a video about it a year or so ago. Found it from JayZ2Cents.
im gettting a dell XPS 16, its for college and will run games just fine! here are the specs: (lmk what u think?) intel ultra 9 16 cores 32G ram RTX 4070 1TB storage 60W
@@bleh6766 That should be a good mix of gaming and school laptop. Ive always prefered the 14" size for school, but had friend way back that hauled the 15" and 17" to class. they were heavier then. I think LTT (Alex? forget the reviewer) likes that one. I would personally just do a stand and skip the cooling pad, but there is nothing wrong with getting a pad.
I only had it for a review to see if I liked it and give thoughts before I returned it. So I cant say for certain. Given Ive had free keyboards last years it should last long enough to justify its price.
so it all depends on what you want or need. If your looking for RGB i have a best of RGB fans on my channel. posted last weekend. If you dont want or RGB or on a budget I have 2 other best of's posted last weekend as well. But like any fan would work but if you want quiet or max performance whats recommended changes.
The light wings are the only good performing fans with a led ring light with a 140mm version, so they have basically no competition in that section. From other tests it seems that the 140mm version ( not the high speed one ) is way better than the 120mm, but they are old tests without the comparisons with the recent fans. I'm looking for a fan with this type of ARGB and the best one seems to be the Seasonic Magflow ARGB, but there is no 140mm, so I'm sad
I have a best of round up on my channel. posted last weekend. I have a best of RGB that I tested video. I also have a best of inexpensive and best of all tested fans.
@@computer-tech-more I watched it, but the light wings version is the high speed one, which in theory is for radiators. Still, there are no good fans with similar rgb style with a 140mm version besides the light wings. If Thermalright or Seasonic make a 140mm version of their fans, then I would choose them since in their 120mm version are already better than the light wings
A little advice: since there are a lot of data in reviews like this, I suggest you to use chapters. A lot of people skip very good videos just because there are no chapters
@@computer-tech-more I never tried to put them in a video, but it seems that there is a missing step or something. In your videos descriptions I see them as "key moments" and not as chapters. Edit: from what I have seen, it can be a youtube problem or it is because you didn't put a timestamp at 00:00
@@computer-tech-more no offense intended, I may not have seen it because I was mostly watching for unboxing and walkthrough of the board and information on the igpu performance for video encoding and skipped anything else
Happy to see channels like this. There are a lot of good fans in the market, but sometimes is really difficult to find good reviews, especially for 140mm fans. I'm looking for a 140mm fan to use on the back of my case, but I don't know what to choose. From other tests, it seems that the best choices would be the P14 Max or the RS140 Max ( without considering the budget for the last one ). After seeing your reviews, now I'm curious about the Thermalright TL-B140 Extrem
I have a review set to come out for the regular TL-B14. I would say teh P14max is the best 140 ive tested so far. even considering the regular B14. Ill need to test the TL-B14 extrem.
@@computer-tech-more Nice. For 120mm fans, there is a fan from Bykski Granzon ( GI120 )that seems very good, but there are no reviews on RU-vid. Bykski is a known and good brand in the watercooling sector, so it's strange that there are no reviews
Is there any way I can turn off the rgb in the S12? Can I cut one of the wires or something? Want one to blow up air on my GPU and one as exhaust, but don't want the RGB.. Thank you!
What switches do you have on the azoth? They dont sound like the NX Snow so it isn't an apples to apples comparison. My Azoth doesn't sound like that at all with the NX Snow switches.
Bought two arctic p14 max fan for my lian li lancool 205m case. Installed these instead of 2x front intake stock lian li 140 mm fans and there was temperature drop 4 celcius on cpu, 5 celcius on GPU in 29 celcius ambient temperature. Also my case has dust filter in front of intake fans. Impressive performance and not so loud. I strongly recommend these fans for your case.
