when I heard braindead response, my first thought was "and I am all the Jedi!" whereas the absolute best "braindead" reply HAS to be "you're not that guy ... I AM that guy". I don't know how they made something so predictable so fucking badass. Maybe it's Wes' delivery ... or maybe it's the emotional payoff we get in the scene ... but despite its predictability it's probably the perfect thing to say there
Not to toot my own horn, but I'm rather proud of a subtle bit I did with dialog in my graphic novel. Throughout the entire book, one of the heroes (a kobold named Ravani) only refers to the main protagonist Nails (a tiger-striped catfolk) by nicknames: "Stripes, Fuzzball", things like that. But at the climax of the story, Nails thinks she's about to die facing off against a demon and says to Ravani (and another character they've met) "Thank you, I'm glad I met you both" and walks toward what she thinks is her death. And at this point, Ravani finally calls her by name, telling her to "get back here, you hear me? Nails!", showing that not only has he come to regard her as a friend over the story but he's also terrified for her, realizing she means to sacrifice herself for them. I thought that was a nice subtle inclusion in my dialog.
Thanks for this video. This will help me improve my latest chapter. It feels duller than the rest of my chapters despitbeing faster paced with high stakes.
It's funny clicking on this video and you using the examples of bad dialogue from Game of Thrones considering how that show was so good at the beginning and how it went from being perfect to being so bad
Captain America & Iron Man's dispute is probably one of my favorite dialogue exchanges of all time. It's been on the back of my head the first time I watched The Avengers.
I kind of want to submit the "set me up with Janus" scene from GoldenEye for every category except the cliché buffet. Bond and Zukovsky are riding the line between insults and banter, because after all, they are former enemies, they have backstory together, but Bond is trying to get Zukovsky to work with him this time. Every reply is sharp, there's tension in the entire scene because Zukovsky is still mad at Bond for something that happened before the film's timeline. There is very little "job resumé" dialogue except what is absolutely needed, namely the fact that Janus is a Lienz Cossack. Most people don't know that much about WW2 and the Cold War to understand the subtext the entire movie uses without this info, but it's still introduced well and not like a brain dead info dump.
Two points for the Empire Strikes Back example: 1) Harrison has talked about how he came up with “I know” and described it as “what would be the last thing a woman who just said ‘I love you’ would want to hear”. 2) While director Irvin Kirshner loved the change, Lucas apparently hated it, and only left it in because it tested so well with audiences. This may go a long way toward explaining why the original trilogy (and especially Empire) are so good while the prequels are… a bit disappointing (true failure belongs to the sequel trilogy, but none of that is Lucas’s fault).
I disagree, to an extent. Dialogue, while it can be used to excellent effect as conflict (because conflict drives the story) is not always attack or defend. Characters use dialogue as a way to reach their goals and find information. They can use dialogue to "get past" obstacles. Authors use dialogue to flesh out scenes using the D.A.D. method. Finally, dialogue can be used to lie to the reader in very sparing and limited circumstances in order to set up future twists in the plot.
Just watched 2 Fast 2 Furious and I have to give it credit for being one of the greatest examples of boring, meaningless, one-dimensional dialogue I've ever personally witnessed.
I feel like I needed this video because my stories have a lot of banter between characters because I want my audience to like these people and get invested. So now because of this video, I’ll know how to not write banter 🖤
Definitely study some of your favorite banter scenes. There are a couple in this video that do it well (10 Things and ASM2), but trying rewatching your favorites and even writing out the dialogue if that helps. Best of luck!
i was getting worried there’d be no video today! i loved this one and i have some ideas i’d love to see how to write: -time skips (the passage of time, sudden character changes) -superhero characters (social identity, personal life vs career) -deuteragonists (how do i challenge my protagonist from someone other than the antagonist?)
Thanks! Already way ahead of you on Time Skips: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rcpdTmccoEM.html I'll add Superhero and Deuteragonists to my list. Thanks again!
“Even though she’s drunk and dealing with a concussion she still makes more sense than Anakin and Padmé.” Yeah sounds about right 😂 love that movie, Heath Ledger was so good in so many roles
Yeah, 10 Things blew me away. Went into it thinking "Ugh, not another high school rom-com" and ended up enjoying the hell out of it. Thanks for watching btw!
I've never seen him in any other role than the Star Wars movies but I'm sure he's a good actor. It's just that his dialogue is SO poorly written. The real criminals about the prequel trilogy are the producers who gave those awful scripts a green light.
Imagine if Smaug said to Bilbo: “You see, Mr. Baggins, I love gold!” I also think that it would be more fitting to hear the 1976 King Kong or the Jungle Hunter from Predator say “GIVE ME YOUR FACE!” when ripping an enemy’s face off, more than Optimus Prime in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen.
I'm surprised you didn't mention any twists from any of the Shyamalan films. Without giving away spoilers, The Sixth Sense has quite a compelling twist. It plays on the viewers presumptions quite effectively, comes as a shock, and thoroughly changes the conditions for the main character all while being 'believable' in the setting. Additional subtle allusions such as the presence of red make the impact of the revelation even more meaningful to the audience once they recognize the twist was in front of them the whole time.
I am from theatre and studio production and $10,000 didn't seem a lot for the first book so I turned it down. They just offered me $80,000 for a signing fee for the first two books 😁
You know what’s a REALLY good scene to show the diversity in character reactions. King’s addressment letter to thr continental congress in the HBO mini-series John Adams. They all had very different facial reactions suited to the news.
The Last Jedi I think is bad because he’s lying. And maybe it was made this way to show us how Luke is a failure (which is the theme of the movie: how the jedi failed and why Luke has to be last of them)
