Sad that people who are not ARMY'S WILL NOT click on this video, because the clarification is on point. All that they will ever click is when people talk bad about them. What a shame. This videoessay has to be played in podcast, radios (lol) and TV. It's really informative and crediting BTS as they have to be credited.
I'd argue it's good for us to scream and go a bit wild during concerts. Experiencing catharsis is very healthy for our emotional regulation. Don't hold back because of what some boring people might think about it
Not gonna lie as a non-american, america always sounds so narcissistic, Petty, jealous and ready to inflict violence. Whether that be imperialism or dismissal of others. Quite bizzare.
damn at 7:24..."'Love Yourself' is not an empty-natured, big-tent message: it's a pointed message - it's a political message directed towards young people suffering from a generational crisis engineered by the greedy incompetence of previous generations." DAMN this right here, this discussion is a huge part of why i'm an army
So you're saying she's not YOUR type of asian representation.. you want someone who looks Chinese or what caricature you invision as Filipino.. hmmm...
BTS is a K-Pop group, but is not entirely K-Pop. Pop gen is a mess in it self. K-Pop in Western (American) media's eye? A bigger mess. I understand the need of having something to put BTS into, so that they can have a first understanding of what K-Pop is. But the term 'K-Pop' or even 'Idol music' has so much negative impression that it leads to people immediately look down on BTS and why they are famous/successful. I was one of them, as I'm familiar with the mass-produced, heavily use plastic surgery, everyone looks the same, focus too much on visual line of production that those big labels created before I get a chance to know BTS. BTS was only one of the 'idol groups' that I looked down on before my friend introduced me to a B-side song of them and let me read the lyrics. And I believe that could be the story of so many Army also. You receive a gift, thinking that it's just another boy band or idol group out there, but when you get to know just one song of them, you discover that they are really the gem, that their music really talks to your soul, and you want to share that excitement and love to everyone else, just to get weird look of fanboying/fangirling over 7 boys with pretty faces wearing make-up and dance on stage.
They are pop. Period. They are from Korea, true. The competed in the idol system, true. But they are pop in the way that they have crossed over into the international markets, and become ledgends in many countrys that had never happened to any idol group and wouldn't have happened to just a k pop group.
Pinoy kaba? Or maybe the only Filipino celebrity you know are half white. There's a lot of relevant "pure" Filipino celebrities you might just not know them.
lmao no. the main stars especially in the younger generation have no caucasian/white heritage. it is just a myth that many of the filipinos have caucasian/white genes coming from spain colonizers. they are just basically filipinos that are light-skinned because of our beauty standards.
I am Filipino, and I went to French studies all my life since I was a child, which meant I was with Europeans and I had to adapt to European culture. For me, what matters is that Olivia is building bridges between Filipinos and Europeans. It doesn't have to be so complicated.
I didn't watch the video. I think Olivia is gorgeous. My background is Scandinavian. I've dated a gorgeous and charismatic Filipina. I've experienced (in Canada) and watched (via RU-vid) enough of Filipino culture to know they are amongst the most genuine and best representation of good people that exist in 2024. Should I want to have children in the future, a Filipina bride would be very high on my shortlist. The men of the world are seriously overlooking what the Philippines offers: genuine, physically attractive, very feminine, caring, family-oriented, and fun women are plentiful there. Olivia is attractive because she represents - from a white westerner's perspective - the best of what can happen when East meets West. Like an ideal of blended genetic ethnicity (advantageous) with the very genuine! feminine culture of many decades ago. The other reason she's popular (besides her singing/stage talent) from a Caucasian perspective is that her physical attractiveness is 'familiar'. Sure, her 'facial ratios' are globally appealing, however, her mother brought the Caucasian genetics into the mix to create the familiarity.
To put into perspective as a Filipino who was born and has been reared in the Philippines, and being part Hispanic on both paternal and maternal sides, and part Chinese on paternal side; Filipinos in general are mixed-race. It is true that there is a preference to Eurocentric look, frankly because of the better appearance and features of being mixed-race Asian; not ordinary in other words. Many of my classmates both in Public and Private schools are mixed race, namely: being part Chinese, Japanese, white Hispanic or brown Latino features/, dark skinned Indian, Arabs on the muslim side of Mindanao, Pacific Islander similar to Vanuatu, Tonga and Palau. So there you have it. Many Filipinos are of Malay stock, but Malay that are Mixed with various races. Hence, a lot of Filipinos are good looking due to mixed racial background, and there will always be a preference to Mixed Race on the media because of the Looks or Appearance. Filipinos are an amalgamation of many different races from across the globe literally. You cannot box Filipinos as just being Asian because some of us look very Latino (tan/brown) White Hispanic/European looking, East Asian looking, some have Indian/Arab features, and others are more Pacific islander, and does not resemble with typical brown Malay/Indonesian person. So there you have it! Again, Filipinos are not just Asians even though we are categorized as Asians. We are mixed-race Asians which is why some of us do Not look like Asians or typical Asians.
Besides colorism, another reason is the genre that Olivia Rodrigo performs in. While rock/punk pop comes from black American musical tradition, it was appropriated by white musicians. Hence the genre is still associated with whiteness. Compared to say, Bruno Mars,Saweetie and H.E.R. that write and perform music that would be considered “ethnic”, specifically black, esp to middle America.
Hello. I just got into BTS and this was one of the vids recommended to watch to understand them in a nutshell. Thank you for this intro! I never knew I would enjoy watching them as much as I currently am, but here I am wanting to know more about who they are. They are a truly different bunch and some of these artists are a rare find; hence why we can't determine where they fit. 😊 Thanks again!
29:19 It comes as no surprise that Seo Taiji & Boys heavily incorporated nu metal into their later albums and Taiji's solo career, but that's just how musically versatile he was. Also, if anything, the current wave of South Korean indie has been receiving critical praise in the West as part of Korean pop's ripple effect - Parannoul, SE SO NEON, and Mid-Air Thief, to name a few.
I’m a recent army and your videos helps me to understand where the fandom comes from. Very insightful. Good job. The diverse group of fan around the world that are united because of their passion towards bts members and their songs intrigue me at 1st. The more I research the more curious I become, I have been enjoying many of their songs (starting from their rapline and now all members!) it might take me years to catch up to their past contents, hahaha. You have done an amazing job!! What an information and well constructed video.
This is probably the best BTS video essay I have watched. Props to you man. Love seeing people actually going beyond the most shallow details of why BTS is what it is!
I don't know why the Filipinos in the comments are surprised. In most countries, having a "miss world" that was born abroad can be a big no-no but with Filipina contestants, it's like being half white is an occupational requirement. They want a white woman whom they can technically call "Filipina". However, I can see the Vanessa Hudgens vibes. She's a Disney singer and there's nothing more dear to a Filipina girls heart than a Disney song that she cannot for the life of her sing.
Thank you for making these videos. I learned about K-Pop Initially from watching the Late Capitalism of K-Pop video and watching your videos has cleared things up for me significantly and definitely tempered my initial impression of Korean music.
I came to this video ready to be smack right in the middle of the sides. Either neutralizing the "toxic Pinoy Pride" that us Filipinos tend to have on other threads or highlighting lesser/forgotten facts about the culture and history in the comment sections. But damn, that simple quick slideshow of Filipino representations through out decades (22:51) still managed to make my eyes well up! Something about actually having tangible/visible concise evidence of my identity being celebrated way before me or way past my capacity to present myself in any way.
I watched the video in full as you said. I still think Olivia is good representation for Filipinos. I am Filipino and because I was in French studies all my life, I learned very early on that most Europeans don't know much about Filipinos, and what they know is often negative. I had spent most of my life trying to reconcile Filipino's mixed heritage, we're Asian, but a mix of Western. Olivia is a good representation of that, and she represents us to a wider European audience in a positive way. This was much harder to do with, say, Bruno Mars, because he was always pigeonholed in Urban music, and almost always associated more with the Black community. Olivia is a good balanced representation of Filipinos as a blend of Asian and Western. Yes, she only mentions lumpia, so what? I don't talk about my Filipino identity much unless someone asks. That's all that matters.
Good thing I realized this is a 2-year old video. 😅 I was gonna ask if "latinx" is still being used when there's rising conversation in regard to using an english-centric language system (the letter "x") when it's actually harder phonetically for latin speakers to implement. I just noticed because I'm Filipino woman and here in the Philippines where the Tagalog language is almost entirely gender neutral expect for when you want to change "o" to "a" for emphasis, on people-adjective like jobs (doktora). And the gendering of jobs has been dying out/only gen x still used it casually. Not to mention "Filipin-x" is clunky to pronounce. I've only just seen it used online by Filipinos who born/grew up in English speaking countries.
