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I really do think Cliff Daniels was onto something with the rake and ride height of the car. When the Gen-7 was going through its very early stages of testing, the rake of the car was pretty even, and the car's nose was naturally low. But as soon as teams learned how much downforce can be created with the diffuser, they all started doing anything and everything to get the rear of the car as low as possible (even running dangerously low rear tire pressures to do so). By putting in ride height rules, it could bring the car back to a level rake, and maybe bring back the ability to pack air onto the rear of the leading car to get it loose. Speaking of the diffuser, I honestly don't know if removing the entire underbody will have some type of ripple effect for how the car handles. The underbody is where the majority of downforce is created, and Idk if that's gonna create an aero effect similar to Gen 5 and 6--but perhaps worse, with no side force. And of course, the car needs at least 100 more HP.
Honestly? Xfinity is more exciting than Cup. The past few weeks have been way more exciting in Xfinity, it’s just plain more fun to watch. They still had issues at Bristol, but not as bad.
This car is objectively designed better than the gen 6 and 5. The issues that plagued those cars have been been largely solved. Aero issues are not the problem. It’s the tires. The wide tires don’t wear. The same people that parrot “900hp” turn around and glaze the Xfinity car which literally makes the same hp as the gen 7!!! Idk if Goodyear is just nervous to be aggressive on a compound or what but it should not be this hard.
Most suggestions in here are amateurish. Short tracks and road courses are less about the under-body/diffuser downforce and more about the upper body downforce and mechanical grip. This generation of cars combines the worst elements of ground effects, the diminished tow, with a still a dirty and sensitive upper-body, and terrible tires and no tire compound choices. But at least the sideforce dirty air issues are gone. The quickest fixes would involve softer tire compounds and more tire compound choices, more setup freedom and a push to pass system (either via more power like in Indycar, or a DRS like in F1, or both).
i really want them to implement option tires at short tracks at richmond this year what suarez did and the strategy options that it gave the teams was really entertaining
Great video as always, but one thing to mention, your definition of camber is a little off. Less camber would mean less rubber is in contact with the asphalt, which would give you more wear and less grip, more camber would be the opposite
I've said this before and I'll say it again. It's almost as if the next gen and the gen 6 were stuck with track lists that were meant for the other, the cookie cutter race schedule would've been perfect for the next gen while the more diverse race schedule would suit the gen 6 very well. The schedules felt like they've been swapped and unintentionally exemplify the worst of each generation. Like fixing a hole on a boat only for another hole to form, and it can never be fully fixed and sea worthy.
it's because the next gen car was designed to race well on road courses. Unfortunately what they realise that when they race well it takes all the chaos and excitement away from the road course races when all the cars handled relatively poorly. So it doesn't even do what it was designed to do well.
Gen 7 has so much potential, I can see/feel it. NASCAR just needs to get a move on and figure this shit out on the Road Courses and Short Tracks which has me worried for the Charlotte Roval in a few weeks though at least Watkins Glen was fun for the most part at least to me + if Mexico City happens to be a stinker then we’ve got problems although hopefully I’m wrong. Not to mention that Cliff Daniels is right: Gen 7 isn’t a bad car by any means, it just has it’s flaws that need to be worked on as no car is ever perfect and not even Gen 6, Gen 5/COT and hell even my personal favorite Gen 4 was the same way as in *not perfect* but at the same time they were a helluva lot better on a consistent basis than Gen 7 has been so far. Getting rid of it isn’t the solution as there is hope but if NASCAR doesn’t do anything to take advantage of that opportunity then I guess we’ll have to wait till Gen 8 to see if anything drastically improves organically and I would hate for it to come to that.
Agree with everything but a couple of things not mentioned that can also be a big help is the brake package is way to go at the moment and also the 5th gear that also makes this car stable in which there are less driver mistakes
I don't hear anything from Larson who won the race. Also nothing from Ryan priece who overtook many cars in the end. You simply demand more crashes and drama. That's what you actually want. Not racing.
I know adding horsepower is not a magic fix all problems solution, but it just upsets me that NASCAR hasn't even thought to try it. Just go to a tire test at Richmond and Martinsville with like 5-8 cars. Add 150-200 horsepower, and just see what happens.
So, here's a list of what needs to be fixed in the next gen car as far as short tracks and road courses. 1. Rear Diffusers. 2. Brakes. 3. Shifting 4. Horsepower 5. Tires. But as long as NASCAR continues to be stubborn they will do NOTHING!
I think ryan bergenty took to twitter because he knew that if he went to NASCAR, there is a chance that they wouldnt listen to him because Jim France and others in the sanctioning body have bigger egos than the teams. And he knew that if he went to twitter, there would be an audience that agrees with him. I get that he should take to NASCAR instead and work with them, but dont be surprised if he does and comes back and says, "they didnt listen and did the exact opposite." Keep in mind, teams and NASCAR havent worked together well this year with the charter negotiations as both parties (and fans) disagree with how to move forward with that. I would love for NASCAR and the teams, maybe even the media guys, to work together and get a better short track product, but i think its kinda obvious that the teams dont like the leadership and feels like that if everyone gets the changes they want, the leadership is going to have to change. Now, idk what the fixes are exactly, but by watching the short tracks this year and keeping up with what NASCAR has changed to improve the package, grooved tires would be something i want to see tried, that would create a smaller contact patch without changing the actual size of the tire. Denny Hamlin has suggested it and seeing how the wet weather part of Loudon went, i think thats a door they should open (ik that was wet conditions and not dry conditions but grooved tires would be the rain tires but meant for the usual dry conditions). More HP would be nice, but i dont think it should be priority #1 as it may not be the biggest piece of the puzzle like everyone else thinks. Getting rid of the underbody and diffuser might fix the flipping issues at the superspeedways and michigan, but im not smart eniugh in aerodynamics to say its the answer to the dirty air problem, but that should be tried at the very least. Everything that bergenty said is a good idea to try, i would replace the option tires with grooved tires. Its up to NASCAR if they WANT to collaborate with the teams. Sorry for the paragraph, but its my thoughts. Also, im not claiming to say that everything that bergenty said is the answer, im saying its worth trying and seeing what happens, if it works it works, if it doesnt, well they tried.
The only way to get NASCAR to listen is 1. Drivers leave the cup level and go race Xfinity to showcase what it would be like. 2. Strike.... I don't want this to happen but when NASCAR doesn't have a product to show and they start losing money big time then they will listen.
Bro said 5 people watch disc golf. Obviously never seen that a decent amount of people actually show up to big tournaments, but definitely agree that it's not as big as other sports.
I’m a huge fan of short tracks I think they are the best, if they where off the schedule I garentee within a year or two everyone would be begging for them back
If you make the consequence of lowering the car too much be a cut tire, then they wouldn't be able to get around it. Basically make it so that if the car travels too low, something rubbs the tires or even rubs the track and scrubs off speed or both. That's how you enforce a ride height rule on track.
My solution is to let the teams fix it. Run a couple tests in the off season and let the teams come up with the changes within some set of perimeters, but give them enough freeedom to make a difference. Let them add 50-75 HP. Let them mess with the soiler heights and angles. Let them mess with the front splitter and the underbody. I guarantee that if they let the teams brainstorm and try their own ideas, they will fix pretty much everything wrong with the car in one weekend. They're that smart.
I’ve been saying for years this car is fundamentally broken at short tracks. Bristol is a great freaking track. The car is the problem. I sort of agree with Denny Hamlin we need next gen 2.0 if you really want to fix the short track action. But then you run the risk of hurting the mile and a half tracks which are awesome right now
