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i feel like nobody ever mentions how normal it is for people new to board spinning tricks to throw the trick so sideways the Tokyo Drift music starts playing, which is not what you want to do, you want to "stay where you are" mostly (TM) and jump UP
It would be more accurate to just set up multiple boards with different wheel bases. The big thing is the actual "tipping point/ bend at the nose or tail staying the same distance from the trucks and nose/tail length. The trucks are not just moved closer, the entire board geometry is reduced or lengthened so the dimensions of the board stay relevant. That's of course how they have the same shape board offered at different sizes.
Normally, I think your videos are extremely well thought out and made (hence I'm subscribed). But this one is really weird from the perspective of a skater and physics. Of course you're going to need more pop if you use your wider wheelbase, since you have less tail and thus less leverage. Archimedes. As I wrote in a subcomment, this isn't scientific at all. You've adjusted at least two parameters simultaneously (wheelbase, tail length). You need to keep the latter consistent, otherwise this is worse than meaningless, it's misleading.
It's really more a matter of distance from where the wheels touch the ground to the tip of the nose/tail. So rather than wheel base, it's nose/tail length, placement of the truck, truck height, wheel height. Wheel base changes turn radius - like a tiny car can turn sharper than a bus. But it's cool that you can build these animations and such. Really helps to visualize the concepts.
little hack if you want to Ollie a little higher: risers or larger wheels (only a little larger, those 60mm OJ wheels aren't necessary) but it has something to do with a little big of degrees added to the range of pop area
Your experiment didnt take the concept of the distance between tip of the board to the bolts serious. You shortened or expanded the wheel base, but actual skateboards wont make the nose or tail extra long. They will be just as extended, in ratio, as any other traditional 7.75 or 8.5 width deck... You doing this experiement with short wheelbase with extra long nose and tail is very misleading...
Yes, but that's not how science works. In science you adjust one variable at a time so you can see what the difference in the outcome is. If he was to adjust both the wheelbase and board length or nose/tail length then there'd be several things happening at once, making it difficult to highlight the effect wheelbase itself has, which was the point of his video to begin with. He could've made this more clear though, I agree.
@@Notapizzathief False. In fact, this "experiment" adjusts multiple parameters: wheelbase length and tail length, among others. The cleanest would be to find two skateboards that have different wheelbase lengths but almost identical tail length, at the least.
This topic drives me absolutely mad... decks have a tail length and they have a wheelbase. A deck with a 6.75" tail and a 7" nose (standard) will have 6.75" tail and 7" nose whether the wheelbase is 14, 14.25, or 14.5. The entire deck length is longer yes but the tail is the tail and the wheelbase is the wheelbase...
Another, usually looked over, facto, but important is the distance between the length between the tail or nose and bolts. I like 2 fingers of flat in the back, 1½ fingers of flat up front, 14" wheelbase, and a fuller nose and tail, but not too long, just fuller.
I have discovered that some geeks take the " science " behind skateboards far too serious. This sounds like Andy Anderson promo work on new wheels or decks. If you are serious about learning any trick you can adjust to any board setup. Stop the science geeking out and get out and skate. BS like this sucks the life out of a pure type of expression.
Or you could just ignore the video and stop gatekeeping the sport especially since no one even knows who you are lmao. There is plenty of us out there who love this type of geeking out in our hobbies and the fact you feel it suck’s the fun out of it is a problem for you to solve for yourself.
No, what "sucks the life out of a pure type of expression" is posers like you who try to belittle others for enjoying the sport in the way they want to. Have you ever stopped to consider that some people like "geeking out" because they enjoy learning about physics just as much as they enjoy skateboarding?
Haha, true. In fact, I tried a lot more conditions but didn't think I could make meaningful stories out of them. And you know, grooved holes look better lol.
Have you thought of doing a video on each board shape and how the shape might affect the physics? If there's even a significant difference at all. I imagine Andy Andersons deck would probably perform a bit different than like, an Old School shape.
To some extent, yes. Steeper kick helps you raise the nose of the board, allowing it to bite into your front foot more. If you can control your front foot effectively, you should be able to do tricks higher.
My non symmetrical shaped skateboard, came with two sets of holes at the nose. While it adjusts the wheelbase, the distance at the back remains constant.
The flaw here is that deck lengths are a consequence of the wheelbase. The space between the edge of the truck's base plate and nose is adjusted. Paul Schmitt refers to it as "fingers of flat" (I think). The fulcrum is moved forward or back when the wheelbase is adjusted. Without a correction to the lever you get the results above. Because OP can not adjust the "fingers of flat" along with the wheelbase this experiment doesn't really tell you anything.
Yeah, I think it was a mistake to call this video the "science of wheelbase" since it's more like "science of tail length" in reality. And I'm kinda disappointed it didn't go over the obvious things like how different wheelbase lengths affect turning radius.
What do you mean "this experiment doesn't really tell you anything"? It clearly shows the impact (all be it exaggerated) of increasing or decreasing the wheel base. Increase the wheel base, the angle of takeoff increases, requires more power and potentially more pop with the trade-off of less control. Reduced wheel base results in less power req'd to pop the tail etc etc. You hear Ben Degros reference this all the time, taking about how a set up "feels heavy" with a particular brand of truck. On it's own fingers of flat is pretty irrelevant anyway. You need to also consider the brand of truck (wheel base changes for different brands), height of truck + wheel, length of tail, angle of tail etc etc. I'm pretty sure Paul Schmitt presses boards 5-6 per mould so fingers of flat and the shape of the kick change depending on the locating in the press. And the fact fingers are being used to measure is pretty unscientific anyway.
rather than moving the trucks around, we need this experiment with an adjustable middle portion of the deck (like dining tables with an center leaf extensions).
This is awesome. Love the 3-D graphics. And I’m proud to say that I landed 2 kickflips yesterday at 50. And now it’s all I’m gonna do. I put a rock mark at the top left of my board and it made it something to aim my foot at and right after I scraped the mark I landed the first one! Super stoked
My overall problem with tricks after just getting back into skating after 15yrs. Is floating my arms, I keep quick movements an kills my moment.. ah well got to keep at
I swear youtube is drip feeding me these videos to convince me to try these again. Mine basically never flip, and if it does i've got one of my feet on the ground lmao
Thanks so much. New favorite channel, getting back on a board after 12 years of not skating. I've never yet landed a kickflip, but with your breakdowns I will learn it!
The only time you actually get hurt is when you least expect it. Boom pebble skrrrrts and before you can even react your hip is bruised and you have a sprained wrist.
