Man this one was a while ago.. but I know this was all internal synth engine and samples I had on the deluge except for the guitars and omnichord which my band mates played and I sampled back into the deluge for arrangement. Oh and the vocal sample. Which was all mangled on the deluge as well.
Thanks man! And yes.. technically (if you count my subpar playing as guitar playing) we actually have 4 of us that play guitar! Haha. Not usually at the same time tho… 😂 this song was 2 of them. Johnny and James.
Thank you! It’s called ‘Neolithica’ by Oakland Ghosts. It’s up on all the streaming sites (spotify, Apple Music, etc) including RU-vid Music ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KB1HEITzXxU.htmlsi=GOO_Cahh2EwrI3xV
@@MadValleyMusic oh man. There’s alot going on there. Haha. Some of it is actually guitar chugging to add texture to the drums. Most on deluge and then a lot of weird stuff in the daw too. Got a full vid dropping tomorrow!
Thanks for making a video on the DFAM. 👌The DFAM is very underrated. In reality it has 2 sequencers and they can be played to crazy effect. We use 2 DFAMs with the Labyrinth and we've made some very interesting sounds.
Totally agree! I do sometimes wish it had… more. Like more steps (maybe 16steps) and maybe a separate row of pitch/velocity so you can separate the voices better.. but then of course it’s veering into drum machine territory which might take away from its unique character. Sounds like 2 is what I really want… you figured it out! Jealous. But even more jealous of the Labyrinth! Really wanna play with one of those!
@@oaklandghosts0510 That's where the Lab comes in.😀 Well, we find that between modulations and the oscillators. You can play the pitch and velocity like a keyboard. Also, slight turns can produce incredible variations when circumstances are right. There's also a way to get feedback out of the DFAM. Yeah, 2xDFAMs and a Lab is definitely the way to go, and it can go deep. We really believe few people dig into what a DFAM, or any synth, for that matter, as much as they could. We've even gotten jazz and blues out of Moog's, very experimental. Also, we just uploaded a piece that takes them to an interesting place sonically. This is the other thing most don't think about with a Moog system (mother). With ours, we have 13 oscillators to play with while things are going. Many people don't do this, because you can lose your way, and the pitch can throw you off and ruin the moment. But what is playing a guitar? Moog's are instruments, and we are literally, constantly turning knobs. Also, there are 5 filters, and the Labs folder with U mixer too, the folder/filter mixer. The possibilities are endless. Honestly, a Moog system provides more than enough analog for anyone. All we need is the Spectravox. 😀 Keeping it simple though, is the key, because you learn so much more by learning one system really well. In an analog subtract world, Moog is good enough to end the search for more analog gear for us. And digital synthesis/FM can all be done on a computer more effectively, and most importantly, cheaper, and you don't sacrifice quality with the right setup. We're not stuck on a single format. Music is sound, and anything that makes it is welcome. 🖖
After finally being able to afford one of these, mine just arrived today. Wished I'd done even further research as when I read on the box "made with love in China" (right). I didn't even want to open it. Yeah, I get that if anyone knows electronic assembly, it's China for pennies on the dollar. But for what these sell for, this is my LAST Pittsburgh Modular product. I'm sure it's the same with Moog. Nothing they put out besides the Model D stuff on up actually says made in USA (doubtful), just that they're an "employee owned company", as if anyone cares. They just have their minions in Asheville slap it together. Same SMT crap that all sounds the same with different buttons while gouging customers. Should be Behringer priced at best.
That’s a fair criticism. However I’d argue all the moog stuff even before inMusic bought em was only *assembled in the USA. The components were made abroad. As far as the taiga, it is a bit pricey. No doubt. But it feels way more modular than a typical Semi-modular. I almost go so far as to say it’s more like a starter euro rack collection of Modules and there’s no way you’re getting under that price point buying those modules individually. I’m still learning the synth and how I see it fitting into my workflow, but It has a unique character I really like and regardless of being made in China I’m happy to support small innovative companies pushing the boundaries of analog. Made abroad and made cheaply are not the same thing.
@@oaklandghosts0510 Well, I've had to reassess my thinking after getting completely immersed in it for about 3hrs last night. It took a minute to get things going, but man, I'm connecting with it! I never knew I had a "west coast" way of going about synths, but I strangely seem to gel with it and love expecting the unexpected with it! Love it!
I love this small box. Super easy in use and at the same time great sounding device. I have full SD card of samples and making interesting patches is SO easy! I love it! 😍😍😍
Totally agree! I’d only put a couple samples in of my own and had mostly only used the default patches so far (which are also great!) but once you get in there and start goofing around it’s crazy how quickly you can get some really awesome unique sounds!
Ahh heck ya! Glad you got it working. I was sooooo frustrated when I was first trying to get it all working. There’s surprisingly little info out there about syncing there deluge to modular stuff (particularly the sound studio) and I KNOW there’s at least a few of us out there!
@@oaklandghosts0510Totaly Agreed and I've had every sampler, and started on rack Emus, Akais etc, the Deluge is it all in one place, Another youtuber did a which synth would be you're desert island synth, it was an easy choice, all you need is a solar panel, and sample all you're best synths into it. 🙏Excellent Channel, Thankyou the syncing up info is excellent, I gave up, haha 😄....
Great vid, thanks. That is crazy that the Moogs dont have MIDI! and yes, the Deluge is better with friends. I use mine with the Virus. Each MIDI channel is a different part on the Virus, so i get 16 different synths in one, it's glorious
This is so great.. I'd love to see a tutorial of how you got the deluge and sound studio playing nicely together. I'm waiting for my deluge to arrive, but can't wait to get it involved.. but yeah it's not that straightforward so would love to hear what worked best for you.
My perfect trick: I create a really cool loop and, because i dont enjoy arranging, i just improvise knob tweeks, mutes, and improvise melodies or chords - then tell everyone that im a "minimalist" 😅
How do you find inspiration to create something on the deluge specifically, and/or where do you begin in the process of building something on the deluge? I ask because I finally just got a Deluge myself after hearing about the thing for years and having multiple friends swear by it, but I’m personally struggling to find inspiration on it. If I hear something I want to sample, I feel like pulling out my sp 404 or even just Koala on my phone. When I feel like building with synths, I’m often a little disappointed with the sounds in the Deluge. I am not trying to complain about this amazing device, and I am not going to sell it like I often do with other gear that I don’t vibe with right away. I want this thing to be my “go to” like so many others. I admit that I still have so much to learn on the deluge, I’m still a deluge newbie, but I’m even getting bored trying to learn about it because I just want to create, so I end up just putting it away and pulling out another device that I’m more fluent in using. I know people will just say to bite the bullet (or whatever that saying is) and don’t put it away, just keep using it, and I know…… but I guess I’m just looking for any advice that you or anyone else here might have that could potentially help me. Like I said, I’m keeping it and I. Will eventually love it, I know it, I see way too much potential in this device to just give up on it so soon. Last thing I’ll say which might help, I’ve always been a Maschine, SP404, pad-beating producer. I struggled with sequencers altogether for sooo long, I never cared to even touch one until I got the Torso T1. Noe I’m opening up a lot more to sequencers, but I’m wondering if some of my resistance to the deluge is just some old residual sequencer dislike that I’m still subconsciously holding onto. Maybe I just need advice on how to feel inspired by sequencing in whole. I don’t know! I’m just tired of feeling frustrated and uninspired. Typing this comment and seeking help has actually made me feel a little better all in itself lol. Anyway, thanks for the video.
Great question! For me, I’m coming from a more traditional band/studio background, so the workflow on the deluge feels very natural to me in that it’s very similar to a DAW/piano roll type interface that I was already used to. The thing I was struggling with in my DAW was too many options when staring at a blank screen. Will I record something fresh? Will I endlessly scroll my sample Library? Will I give up and endlessly scroll social media because it’s a tab away? The deluge is intended only to make music, and gets me off the screen and into the moment. A big thing for me was it really opened me up to the world of synthesis. I’m still learning my way around synths, but the deluge and its immediacy made it more accessible to me. Admittedly, the deluge is a bit complicated (with no screen) and it can take some time to learn your way around. And with the endless innovation of the community devs that list never ends… one thing I did from the start was watch RSKT video manual series. Discovering new (to me) or how to use certain features inevitably led to something inspiring I would chase down. When I was first learning my way around the deluge I would often center a session around learning a new feature and seeing how I could integrate it into my workflow. Maybe that meant making a song centered around creating all my own synths and kits from scratch. Or focusing on building a track entirely around the Deluges sampling features, etc. In this way I not only learned more about the deluge but also on which features mattered and inspired me most. I’m sorry to hear you’re struggling with inspiration as to me the deluge is itself an inspiration machine. More often then not, I don’t have a plan when I start up a session. Maybe I just find a loop I like and build on it. Maybe a particular synth sound peaks my interest and I chase it. Maybe a random press of keys in the sequencer turns out to be a really cool melody. Who knows! It sounds to me like you’re probably not suffering so much from lack or Inspiration as much as still struggling to see if a workflow on the deluge works for you. I think maybe you’re still holding on to how you could do things better or faster on gear you’re already familiar with. I’d encourage you to stick with it though! It’s an awesome piece of gear when you get your head around it! Maybe try to incorporate your other gear. The deluge plays nice with other gear. I have a bunch of songs from scratch videos in a playlist that kind of documents how I come up with stuff and what inspires me. Maybe give them a browse! Or my song sketch series. The earlier videos are all entirely made on the deluge. Best of luck and don’t hesitate to reach out with any questions! Cheers.
time for you to learn how to program a synth, if you dont like the stock deluge sounds.... or buy some presets, the deluge boards of canada presets are really good.
If you’re looking for a more step by step arranging on the Deluge video, check this one out : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tLirB4MC_K8.htmlsi=yHg3dJwfawtpLRDO
Ok - that helps (a 3rd way through) to conceptualise Song View as a scratch pad for themes and variations & details and then the Arranger as described where one moves these parts around on a canvas in a more linear Left to Right manner. Yay! I'm wondering if the fact I've never used a grid/cell format has put me off... 👌🏾
Damn I thought you were going to do a blow by blow on the Deluge. I have this problem (being new to this form) of not being able to get beyond the loop stage; v frustrating.
I do have a couple vids in my song from scratch playlist that are a little more ‘blow by blow’ style for arranging on the deluge (I’ll see if I can find some links) I was gonna (and may do) another but the truth is every song is pretty different. And they’re a lot of work cuz I spread out the arrangement process usually over a few days and it’s ALOT of listening back for the start to test things 😂
@@oaklandghosts0510 Understood. I presume everyone works differently too but it's so hard to get to a post-4 bar loop practice for me as I'm not a digital musician. Thanks!
@@brutallyremastered4255I hear ya! My background is all coming from more traditional indie/rock band writing and productions techniques so it was a jump for me too. It’s all about trying to adapt those same techniques in non traditional ways!
Great advice. I think I get caught in loop stacking thinking I’m not sure I have enough parts. One of the things that has really helped is to start arranging the track even before I think I’m ready. Really shines a light on where the arrangement sounds empty and needs more attention. Thanks for the video.
Good tip! Oftentimes starting an arrangement will reveal what you’re still missing. It’s interesting in the loop stacking stage, there’s no hard rule for when it’s enough but I can usually *feel when I’ve hit that point. But as you said, it’s very common that I realize I need that extra melody or lead after I’ve started arranging. Cheers!
Thank you! I agree! I think it’s easy to get caught up in limitations (real or perceived) but I find that’s where a lot of the creativity lies. Cheers!
Haha. Yup. I used to manually vary velocity before. You could also modulate master volume (or oscillator level) with random (don’t know why you can’t do velocity), but I kinda like cutoff cuz it also changes the sound of the hit. It’s also nice to randomize pan just a little so it’s like the hit is on different parts of the hat.
Yeah I think you hit the nail on the head when you said you don’t use the stock presets because they are underwhelming. I think that’s what a lot of people have and use though and that’s why the stigma is there. The Deluge sounds really good. Especially now with the community firmware new reverb, new filters, etc. I’m enjoying it a lot more. The stock kits that come with the Deluge I actually kept all of. They sound great. The synth presets I ended up ditching around half of them. Maybe more. Anyway, great video. I learned a lot about the practical application of Euclidean sequencing today. Thanks for that 😉
Agree. Most of the kits are actually pretty solid (tho I tend to build my own on a per song basis.) Euclidean is pretty cool for generating quick ideas. Especially on hats. Love it for that! More Melodies it takes a lot of offsetting and re-writing, but it’s good for getting a great base to build on quick!
Not the most user-friendly synth. I would love some Patch diagrams to help me though this. I had the sound thing as well. Something to do with midi input. The firmware update has solved this. Great sound when I can coax something out of it.
Ya, definitely not a starter semi modular synth. Feels a lot more like modular set up. Still wrapping my head around it, but I’ve managed to get a couple songs out of it so far! It’s got a super unique character to it for sure which I quite like and because it’s so modular you can really get weird with it! Working my way through the patchbook now (which is really just an extended manual) and it def helps!
This is fantastic! Can you explain how you set up your sound studio for this? I realize the drums are additional. Are you sequencing the DFAM and M32 separately? Just curious. Really nice work.
Thank you so much! I made some videos on how I set this one up actually. The M32 is set up to be semi generative (here’s a link to that video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c5h0LHTAQQw.htmlsi=DzQ5FV3VsiMTBSt0)
The DFAM I’m actually running at a super high tempo to make it Drone and the Subharmonicon I’ve set up in such a way to make seemingly generative glitches when I perform it. Made a video on those setups here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JYL8cmV6LT0.htmlsi=cOmt11SplXZgRu-S
I did some very light additional synth work with the Deluge which is running clock to the SubH and then recorded drums on top. Hope that all makes sense!
Wow. The Taiga sounds big. I like the grit on this track. Very industrial sounding. You should do another version with some heavily distorted guitar in there. Great track.
