great acting. he made a fortune in ww2 due to draft deferments because of a. injury b. had children. that didnt stop other hollywood stars from serving, some in combat like jimmy stewart. I dont want to hear tough guy speeches from Wayne.
It's easy to spout off beautiful passages when reading from a script written by someone else. Marion Robert Morrison (aka John Wayne and "The Duke") was a Nixon supporter and one of the worst actors in the world. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LU039ipUaPs.html
Without Reservations is a 1946 RKO Radio Pictures American comedy film directed by Mervyn LeRoy and starring Claudette Colbert, John Wayne and Don DeFore.
The dialog happened to coincide with Dukela's actual views. Great man. 5 days in purgatory for Chisum which was about as woke as he ever got. Apart from that, he had a flawless ouveire and consequential life
Worked GCA Radar Maintenance at K-Bay 74-77 with F4s screaming by all day long. We were located just off the runway just about where this bird turns off the runway for the taxiway.
Jeffrey, I was a 13 to 17 year old surfer who had base access because of my Dad who was on Nixon's NSA operating in Saigon. We lived just outside the base in Aikahi Park, and my buddies and I would surf a place on the base we named, " Boulders ". Boulders was located at the end of the runway. The surf would be incredible but what was more incredible to us is we'd be out in the water, and the F-4 Phantoms would take off, and lift from the runway right above us! I'll never forget surfing there, and experiencing that. Stupid? You bet, we were quite immortal back then, lol. I was all over that base. I remember the entrance gate was on the other side of where it is today. On Mokapu Blvd. We'd surf inside the gates well over to the right at a place we called Zombies that the MP's would always chase us out of the water. We'd paddle away back to public property. It was crazy. We'd surf North Beach of course and also along the oceanfront golf course at the 14th Hole not to far away from Boulders where the runways were. It was a crazy period,my Dad stayed gone a long time. Until the war ended, April 30th, 1975. KMCAS certainly had some of the most beautiful beaches of anywhere on the island. Anyways, thank you for your service, and aloha to you, C A Saunders
Hmmm... Blowhard draft dodger... with a lifetime of achievements not to mention the admiration of people at home and around the world. That's as opposed to criticism from a blowhard draft dodger no-name nobody with no achievements of which he can speak. I can understand why you are so bitter Mitchell.
Yea now it's what's my entitlement. ! Government take care of me. No it's really other hard working people paying for your entitlement. Depression era people wanted to work now it's why should I the Government will take care of me.
Use to be a great country until they came and displaced the original inhabitants, they wanted, not some of the pie, all of the pie, Trail of Tears. American History, the good, the bad, the ugly.
The Europeans came over and found the Summers to hot and the Winters too cold for them. The "Howling in the wilderness" was the estimated 60 million Native Americans who owned the land. Today there are approximately 5 Million. Since the 1880's Naive Americans have lost ownership of about 90 million acres through Legislation passed by the American Government. The new Americans looked up to the sky and said, "Thanks God." LMAO I"m not taking issue with John Wayne. Everybody knows his opinion. In this case he's reciting his lines in a movie, so my issue is with the writers of those lines. www.pri.org/stories/2019-01-31/european-colonization-americas-killed-10-percent-world-population-and-caused
What a load of hooey... When the English arrived in the New world, they did not find a 'howling wilderness' ... the country was already populated, but the First Nations and their people are conveniently airbrushed out of history by a systemically racist film industry. Not that John Wayne cared much for history (or service) but he made a fine living hocking up that hokey drawl and shootin' "redksins" and "savages"
I guess that would be a valid observation... from someone who never plugged in an electric tool, turned on any sort of heater, drove a car, etc etc etc etc etc... So tell us, what is your basic objection to history being as written experienced without the woke virtue of self-absorbed pious ideologues?
LOL What a poser. Wayne never served in the military--only wore the uniform in the movies. He also supported McCarthy and backstabbed his fellow actors. But some Americans prefer image over substance.
I guess that would be a valid observation... from someone who gave up everything including his personal freedoms to serve his country himself. Why don't you post a copy of YOUR DD-214 Kent?
@@johnwilloughby4841 Irrelevant. I never pretended to be in the military. Additionally, Wayne was a racist. Just read his interviews. He was not a hero by any definition.
@@kentstallard6512 Believe me Kent, I never assumed you served America in the military. But what I find curious, is why are you are so threatened by Conservative's Heroes and the ideals they espouse? We certainly are not threatened yours. When you attack the ideals we value, you have lost. That is because we will never forsake them. On the other hand, American Liberals, Socialists, Progressives, New Fascists (who ironically go by the name of Antifa), BLM, et al are quick to embrace the Marxist ideals fostered by the likes of YOUR heroes, such as Mao Tse Tung, Che Guevara, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler, Fidel Castro, Ho Chi Minh, Kim Il Seung, and a list of others who are responsible for the deaths of over 60,000,000 people in the 20th Century. In other words, when you pick your heroes, you pick your fate. See you in the Killing Fields.
@@johnwilloughby4841 What BS. Of course no one here even attempts to refute the FACTS about Wayne. Trumpsters love phonies, whether a phony patriot or a phony "great businessman." You allow your bigoted ideology to override reality. Example, the Q-Anon cult.
Interesting wee edit there when he's talking about what the first invaders found. An empty wilderness? Aye, right. Aside from the 20 million or so people who already lived there. The American dream was built on genocide and grew through slavery and oppression. Wayne was like the nobility of the old countries the religious nutters, criminals and scoundrels were kicked out of. "Duke" indeed. Where I come from that's still a swear word.
@Fred Wright The clovis people lived thousands of years ago, and were probably wiped out by a comet! The American genocide started just a couple of hundred years ago, and it's still going on today! The Duck is laying claim to exceptionalism in the modern world, ignoring the facts. He says they found a wilderness. They didn't. He says they triumphed, forgetting HOW they triumphed, the millions that were lost to the new dream, who died in the cold and the heat he dismisses so easily. He's not a libertarian, he's a reactionary conservative who wants to shoot anyone who doesn't agree with him, especially if they look or sound different. And there's still that interesting wee edit to deal with. I wonder what he said in that missing space, about what they found when they arrived. It wouldn't be a racist statement about the people who were there first, would it?
John Wayne is a full of shit, fake tough guy wuss. If you're getting your policy ideas from a McCarthy supporting, closet case hypocrite, you might need to learn critical thinking. His whole myth building just pimps out losers who buy into billionaire propaganda. You will be paid to slaughter the other half of the working poor they pay to kill you. People who buy into John Wayne's myth are mentally impaired.
John Wayne was right about our people had nothing when they came here and then the White Man built something for himself he created this country for himself and his children for his people's posterity!
please knock off the "WHITE MAN" BS. You want to discuss, or opine, fine... but keep the bigotry out of it. Men and women built this country...not just white men....and I'm a great-great grandchild of a white settler.
Some big talk coming from John Wayne who stayed at home during World War 2, while other big stars enlisted in the military to fight for this country. Sure, he was popular. But, his “patriotism” pales in comparison to someone like Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable.
I heard he couldn’t because of a bad lung. Was refused when he tried to sign up for ww2. If your a leftist socialist piss on you if not just I’ll informed except my apologies.
@@stanlysteemer4872 well you “heard” wrong. He had a temporary deferment because he was the father of minor children and he was 34 years old. The studio threatened to sue him if he enlisted. He toured with the USO for a few months, but nothing that ever put him at risk of being shot at by the enemy. Gable and Stewart served in active combat in bomber crews, facing death on every mission. You’re the one who is ill-informed, stanly.
Duane Browning I won’t get into a pissing contest on the patriotism of any three of these men. Any of them I’d say we’re far more patriotic than most of today’s actors. Thank you for correcting me on the misinformation I don’t take offense and appreciate it facts do matter.
Ahh yes everyone remembers how the Founding Fathers codified in the constitution "everyone's on their own the government isn't there to help you, only punish you for violating the law" oh wait, there's nothing like that in the constitution. The reason there wasn't government funded healthcare in the 1780's was there wasn't any healthcare in the 1780's. You got cancer? You died. You got diabetes? You died. There was no pharmaceutical industry. Without safe and reliable anaesthetics surgery was very limited. What they did have was vaccines and a lot of taxes was spent on vaccine programs.
That's a flat out lie...John Wayne enlisted in the Navy but was rejected for his knee injury from playing football at USC. So he then applied to join the "then version" of the CIA, (OSS) BUT again..was rejected, at first, so he signed up to do some war time movies with John Ford...the OSS sent the acceptance letter to his ex-wife...but she did not forward it for months. end of story...STOP LYING!!!
Can't find any reputable sorces that are giving your heroic tale but that might just be poor research. But wikapedea says he lost his foot ball scholarship by braking his collarbone bodysurfing. He still was a right winger who sat out the war and made life miserable for some who served.
@@davidhauge5706 I guess that would be a valid observation... from someone who gave up everything including his personal freedoms to serve his country himself. Why don't you post a copy of your DD-214 David?
This was a scene from a movie and John Wayne was an actor. Neither of which make Wayne's character's diatribe in this scene true or factual. The colonist that came the America found it populated with millions of native peoples. But, the European diseases those colonist brought with them destroyed the existing civilizations. War and gunpowder did the rest.
Your comments oversimplify and overlook the fact that actors of the Mid-Twentieth Century, much more than modern day entertainers that are influenced by political correctness and are immersed in woke culture, chose roles that almost exclusively reflected their political and social values. More famous Conservative Actors like John Wayne, Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart et al, rarely accepted roles (or even worked with black-listed writers, directors, or producers) that did not reflect their personal values or political philosophies. Some extremely Liberal Actors such as Burt Lancaster, Kirk Douglas, James Garner, etc. would accept roles that did not reflect their political philosophies, but only if they cast a blatantly negative shadow on traditionally conservative norms. Your observation that the comments John Wayne's character played are neither true or factual, just by virtue of the fact that America grew to what it is today, simply doesn't hold water. With regards to your comment about foreign diseases destroying existing civilizations, your observation holds some merit. But you have overlooked the anthropological fact that native peoples in both North and South America and Oceania (including Hawaii) were extremely susceptible to physical and mental complications that were a result of commonly practiced incestuous relationships. The diseases brought by foreigners that you mentioned, only wreaked further havoc with the extremely weak immune systems caused by inbreeding. But it cannot be denied that the practice of incest not only made these civilizations susceptible to diseases as you mentioned, but it also stunted their intellectual, scientific, and social development which caused these civilizations to stagnate long before Europeans arrived.
@@johnwilloughby4841 - Wayne, like most all actors of that period were under contract to the studios, not free agents. They did not have much "choice" in the roles they played. Also, scripts back they were heavily scrutinized for political correctness of the era. Even MASH (1971) was portrayed in the Korean Conflict even though it was criticizing the Vietnam Conflict. I do not base my water on how things have come today but on what happened in history. In that scene, Wayne portrays the America's as a wilderness free to anyone who came. It completely ignores (as much of taught US history does) the indigenous peoples that were pushed out of those lands. And you go on to call those people incestuous, with weak immune systems. That is simply your ignorance showing. The America's were populated with Millions of indigenous peoples. They were not technologically evolved because they did not spend 3000 years at constant war with each other. Unlike Europeans, they were more in harmony with the land and each other. Do not take that as they were all tree huggers and flower children. They had their differences and their wars, but they never sought the need to kill each other better than what they already knew. They did not build big, overcrowded cities where people lived in close proximity to domesticated animals for centuries (thus the disease issue). They did not enslave entire populations. Even the Chinese did not take gunpowder and invent the gun or giant bombs; they used it (mostly) for fireworks. The Spanish Flu of 1918 devastated both the US and Europe. Yet, by your logic, those people should have had strong immune systems and been totally unaffected by such trivial disease. You really just do not seem to understand disease, immunity, or exposure. Let me give you an exercise in both US history and "weak" immune systems. Read this link on the American Chestnut: www.mountainhomemag.com/2014/06/04/186741/the-fall-of-the-american-chestnut Like the tree, the indigenous peoples had zero exposure to foreign disease and thus, zero immunity. Millions and millions died in European cities over the course of centuries from those diseases and only those that were immune survived and later made in to the new world, bringing those microscopic invaders with them. In short, having a diverse gene pool has Zero impact on resisting/surviving a virulent pathogen.
@@johnwilloughby4841 - I think what you are really saying is: Those people were weak and deserved to be killed and conquered. Is that what you are really trying to say?
@@valkyriefrost5301 Oh Good Grief..,. If you really want to incite an argument by trying to put those infantile, insulting, and hateful words in my mouth simply to bring me down to your level just so you can feel good about yourself, I really have nothing more to say to you. I treated you like a man. I offered a clear, lucid, and thoughtful rebuttal to your shallow and lackluster two-sentence summary of American History, and you respond with woke, politically correct drivel. Just keep telling yourself how terrible America is... it has gotten you this far.
@@johnwilloughby4841 - On the contrary, John. I love my country, but we must admit and acknowledge that our we have our faults and have not been fair to others in the quest of "Manifest Destiny." The real shame is that what happened then still happens today. Trump race baited millions into voting for him. Build the Wall, Lock her up, Make America White Again, etc. These is the dark sides of this nation and its history. I do not want that kind of person as our leader. I want people educated to how we got here and then have a debate on the merits of that behavior. You idea that AMERICA IS GREAT is apart of your ego, not apart of your rational mind.
Yep, the best that was present at the time, real men. Today I would call boys or weaklings, unable or unwilling to take care of themselves or take responsibility for their actions or choices. I look towards myself and not Government because to expect help from government is to know government had to steal from others to help you. Best speech on what it means to be a man! What made this country great. www.pdfdrive.com/download.pdf?id=187261026&h=37007125dde7bea8126b8c1ca3b0f8a5&u=cache&ext=pdf
Another County Heard From... "John Wayne didn't serve in the Armed Forces... Why should I?" So Mr. Zimmerman... is that YOUR excuse for not serving your Country?
@@johnwilloughby4841 Cause I wasn't born when this was MADE, 2nd I was born, 1954, & since, WWII now Wars, were fought that were "NOT" worth IT. And I have a "Cute" Rear End, that the "Females say, is TOO Wonderful, too be damaged, !"
@@charletonzimmerman4205 Hmmm... 1954... not worth it... It sounds pretty much like the reason you dodged the draft and subsequent voluntary military service was because you were afraid. I think you should stop criticizing others for their shortcomings and focus on your own (which in your case is most likely on the opposite side of your cute rear end).
@@johnwilloughby4841 Oh "NASTY" ! I see someone "EDITED" YOU! You-Tube & GOD, don't like, Personal attacks, which, coming from a "Trumper" who's fearless leader, dodged ,the "Draft" & Military service, cause he didn't want too be known, as a "LOSER". & came up with bone SPURS. Oh, by the way, go too my Facebook, Navy Veteran, 1976-1985. Honorable Discharge.
@@charletonzimmerman4205 I will neither view your Facebook page, nor will I correspond with you further... Though debunking your claims of "honorable" military service would probably serve less than a formidable challenge, what I learned from serving with truly honorable men was that when I hear an ass braying in the field, I needn't feel compelled to bray back. Carry on.