@@kentstallard6512 Biden is indeed a racist poser. John Wayne ,wasn't necessarily racist,but he did Express that at that time people of color had alot of catching up to do. I think that at that time,he was correct,but things have changed alot since desegregation. Opportunities exist for all equally as well as equal education opportunities. What people do with that is up to them.
The dialog happened to coincide with Dukela's actual views. Great man. 5 days in purgatory for Chisum which was about as woke as he ever got. Apart from that, he had a flawless ouveire and consequential life
@@tenhirankei Not offended by them when they shove this down every normal human being’s throat or not offended when I get attacked and considered a criminal for being homophobic like every normal person?
The lost irony missed here: It's a romance between rugged down earth realistic conservative values, and progressive, liberal values of hope,opportunity and responsibilities to our fellow person. Neither fully regret the others view point, but it's in their spark of controversy and debate they learn, grow and even love. If you look at the movie today and consider what it was at the time. I think it's still powerfully relevant.
It cuts out a little bit, either for brevity or PC; but, it's still good. Early America had freedom, lots of open space for those willing to work, and no Safe Spaces for snowflakes. "Have you ever heard of some fellows who first came over to this country? You know what they found? They found a howling wilderness, with summers too hot and winters freezing, and they also found some unpleasant little characters who painted their faces. Do you think these pioneers filled out form number X6277 and sent in a report saying the Indians were a little unreasonable? Did they have insurance for their old age, for their crops, for their homes? They did not! They looked at the land, and the forest, and the rivers. They looked at their wives, their kids and their houses, and then they looked up at the sky and they said, "Thanks, God, we'll take it from here." Officer at table with John Wayne "They were rugged fellas." John Wayne "They were men."
They also cheated and killed Native Americans and owned and whipped black people. Gotta love that right wing alpha Male revisionistic horse manure! Much of the history taught in schools at the time this film was made were jingoistic nonsense.
Today they're cry babies and wouldn't last one week in the forest of today with what the people of 200 - 300 years ago had. Now people of just 60 years ago would call it a vacation. What has happened to the men of our youth, I'm 65, to the men of today who are crybabies. Very sad.
YES THEY WERE MEN , BUT THEY ALSO SAW A FUTURE WHERE THEIR CHILDREN WOULDN'T HAVE TO FIGHT AS HARD TO SURVIVE . MR. WAYNES SPEECH DIDN'T GIVE MUCH IN GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE THOUGH . GIANFRANCO FRONZI . FEB. / 21 /2011
Yea now it's what's my entitlement. ! Government take care of me. No it's really other hard working people paying for your entitlement. Depression era people wanted to work now it's why should I the Government will take care of me.
Without Reservations is a 1946 RKO Radio Pictures American comedy film directed by Mervyn LeRoy and starring Claudette Colbert, John Wayne and Don DeFore.
pancake26621 life in the 1800s,The averae person would live 40 years of age ,Work 70 hours per week, This is a slight exageration. My Great Grandfahters all lived into their 70s and they were all frontiersmen in the wild west. Quit drinking the kool aid.
John Willoughby you find the same sort of patterns in other societies such as Australia and New Zealand. One other important point is that life expectancy is an average so the fact that there was high child mortality would have dragged the average life span down.
***** Because of basic medicine many died in child birth or as children. That brings the average down. It wasn't so much because of rough living, but because of common illness that people died back then. The flu could kill a family,
Some big talk coming from John Wayne who stayed at home during World War 2, while other big stars enlisted in the military to fight for this country. Sure, he was popular. But, his “patriotism” pales in comparison to someone like Jimmy Stewart and Clark Gable.
I heard he couldn’t because of a bad lung. Was refused when he tried to sign up for ww2. If your a leftist socialist piss on you if not just I’ll informed except my apologies.
@@stanlysteemer4872 well you “heard” wrong. He had a temporary deferment because he was the father of minor children and he was 34 years old. The studio threatened to sue him if he enlisted. He toured with the USO for a few months, but nothing that ever put him at risk of being shot at by the enemy. Gable and Stewart served in active combat in bomber crews, facing death on every mission. You’re the one who is ill-informed, stanly.
Duane Browning I won’t get into a pissing contest on the patriotism of any three of these men. Any of them I’d say we’re far more patriotic than most of today’s actors. Thank you for correcting me on the misinformation I don’t take offense and appreciate it facts do matter.
Those rugged people he speaks off didn't live as long as we live now. Those rugged people when they felt like it would go over the ridge and take whatever they wanted from the native Americans including the land they lived on. Lets not make it sound so romantic just to want to push the less government angle.
+Carlos Cruz Not true Carlos. Please look at census records from the 1800's and early 1900's... you will find that people routinely lived into their 80's and 90's... it was the higher child mortality rate that resulted from the lack of ability to fight diseases like measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, influenza, polio, diphtheria, tetanus, etc. that kept the average lifespan of early Americans lower. People of the time were hearty and healthy, even living in the far northern latitudes where the winters were harsh. And your comment that settlers took whatever they wanted from native Americans is equally misinformed... in most cases, dirt farmers faired well with native Americans and vice versa... as long as there was mutual respect.
You just going to make a claim then tell someone else to go look it up when in most debates or conversations the onus is on the person making the claim to give the evidence.
You would be assuming... and we all know what happens when you assume right? Dudo que tu Castellano sea mejor que el mio. Yo fui a escuelas privadas y hasta fui assitente en la universidad para dar clases en espanol. Of course you would start with the name calling. Argumentative Fallacy for the win... lol
Carlos Cruz "Lol" Oo, "private schools" so for an extra bit of change you got the education that community colleges now offer and from the same text books? Nice. I could really care less what prestige you attempt to throw around. I'm American, I don't have the mindset of "private schooling" somehow placing you in a higher caste and being of Native American blood makes you lower class, that Latin Americans tend to have. "Escuelas privadas" haha take the Mexican classism mindset and head back to the border, pocho.
I hate to spoil the fun here, but this isn't John Wayne expressing his own opinion--he's an actor in a movie playing a part written by someone else. Sure, it sounds like something he might say, but they are not his words.
He has done a famous soliloquy just before he died. In short, though a script, those were EXACTLY his personal sentiments. His personal swan song soliloquy speaks to how he loves this country, freedom, the men who made this country, and the men who were willing to fight and die to keep it free. He very definitely had a low opinion of socialism and communism on a personal level. If you took time to know the guy, instead of snarking at the idea of America as WE see it, you'd know that.
His words? No. However find me a movie where he said something he didnt believe in. Aside from maybe Red River, that's debatable too. So, in a way, those words are a direct reflection of his beliefs. Call it what you want though.
But then society of past and now has changed in terms of equality, opportunity, resources, and so on I need not point out other differences to deny this rhetoric dialogue in the movie clip which expects men with unequal OPPORTUNITIES to have equal CAPABILITIES Its very easy to sip whiskey and talk. But very difficult to make this society a better place DISLIKE this video!!
Bipin Kumar Oh good grief. Progressive liberal socialist nonsense... "...men with unequal OPPORTUNITIES to have equal CAPABILITIES???" What the hell is that supposed to mean? "...very difficult to make this society a better place...???" You certainly mean, "...very difficult to make this society what I and other like minded people want it to be." Quite the contrary... Barack Obama has proven it is very easy to make society what he and your ilk want it to be... by simply usurping the United States Constitution.
Bipin Kumar Neanderthal??? Puh-lease... Once you start calling names, you've lost the argument. I fully understand where people you are coming from... you cannot provide one lucid, salient example to support your ludicrous claims above. On the other hand, this video has a very strong, yet simple message people like you can not possibly fathom - less government, more personal responsibility, a strong national defense, and a fervent sense of patriotism and love of country. Your side on the other hand can't wipe your butts without the government telling you how and who will do it for you. So learn your history madame... the United States of America has been a free and independent nation for 239 years... and with God's blessing, we WILL be around for thousands more.
Put few ppl to race. A blind, one fat guy, an old, an athlete, and a malnourished person. You say its fair because they are competing for same thing with equal rights and rules... I say make them equally capable before they go for competition... Is this wrong to say?? John Willoughby
+Bipin Kumar AYFKM??? Are you now blaming GOD for the fact that you can't slam dunk a basketball or drive a golf ball 350 yards??? I thought you were here to provide an intellectually stimulating viewpoint... your example is absolutely ridiculous! (Besides, in response to your extremely sad and misguided example, progressive liberals have already solved that problem... they just remove the finish line - everyone's a winner!) Look, you are obviously confusing capability with opportunity... In America, we do not have a caste system or a feudal system where people are born into their lot in life. Everyone here is born with the same OPPORTUNITY to rise and far as their ambition and resourcefulness can take them - our idiot President has proven that. It's not America's (or God's) fault you are an under achiever madame... so please go pick your scab someplace else.
The Europeans came over and found the Summers to hot and the Winters too cold for them. The "Howling in the wilderness" was the estimated 60 million Native Americans who owned the land. Today there are approximately 5 Million. Since the 1880's Naive Americans have lost ownership of about 90 million acres through Legislation passed by the American Government. The new Americans looked up to the sky and said, "Thanks God." LMAO I"m not taking issue with John Wayne. Everybody knows his opinion. In this case he's reciting his lines in a movie, so my issue is with the writers of those lines. www.pri.org/stories/2019-01-31/european-colonization-americas-killed-10-percent-world-population-and-caused
LOL What a poser. Wayne never served in the military--only wore the uniform in the movies. He also supported McCarthy and backstabbed his fellow actors. But some Americans prefer image over substance.
I guess that would be a valid observation... from someone who gave up everything including his personal freedoms to serve his country himself. Why don't you post a copy of YOUR DD-214 Kent?
@@johnwilloughby4841 Irrelevant. I never pretended to be in the military. Additionally, Wayne was a racist. Just read his interviews. He was not a hero by any definition.
@@kentstallard6512 Believe me Kent, I never assumed you served America in the military. But what I find curious, is why are you are so threatened by Conservative's Heroes and the ideals they espouse? We certainly are not threatened yours. When you attack the ideals we value, you have lost. That is because we will never forsake them. On the other hand, American Liberals, Socialists, Progressives, New Fascists (who ironically go by the name of Antifa), BLM, et al are quick to embrace the Marxist ideals fostered by the likes of YOUR heroes, such as Mao Tse Tung, Che Guevara, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler, Fidel Castro, Ho Chi Minh, Kim Il Seung, and a list of others who are responsible for the deaths of over 60,000,000 people in the 20th Century. In other words, when you pick your heroes, you pick your fate. See you in the Killing Fields.
@@johnwilloughby4841 What BS. Of course no one here even attempts to refute the FACTS about Wayne. Trumpsters love phonies, whether a phony patriot or a phony "great businessman." You allow your bigoted ideology to override reality. Example, the Q-Anon cult.
This was a scene from a movie and John Wayne was an actor. Neither of which make Wayne's character's diatribe in this scene true or factual. The colonist that came the America found it populated with millions of native peoples. But, the European diseases those colonist brought with them destroyed the existing civilizations. War and gunpowder did the rest.
Your comments oversimplify and overlook the fact that actors of the Mid-Twentieth Century, much more than modern day entertainers that are influenced by political correctness and are immersed in woke culture, chose roles that almost exclusively reflected their political and social values. More famous Conservative Actors like John Wayne, Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart et al, rarely accepted roles (or even worked with black-listed writers, directors, or producers) that did not reflect their personal values or political philosophies. Some extremely Liberal Actors such as Burt Lancaster, Kirk Douglas, James Garner, etc. would accept roles that did not reflect their political philosophies, but only if they cast a blatantly negative shadow on traditionally conservative norms. Your observation that the comments John Wayne's character played are neither true or factual, just by virtue of the fact that America grew to what it is today, simply doesn't hold water. With regards to your comment about foreign diseases destroying existing civilizations, your observation holds some merit. But you have overlooked the anthropological fact that native peoples in both North and South America and Oceania (including Hawaii) were extremely susceptible to physical and mental complications that were a result of commonly practiced incestuous relationships. The diseases brought by foreigners that you mentioned, only wreaked further havoc with the extremely weak immune systems caused by inbreeding. But it cannot be denied that the practice of incest not only made these civilizations susceptible to diseases as you mentioned, but it also stunted their intellectual, scientific, and social development which caused these civilizations to stagnate long before Europeans arrived.
@@johnwilloughby4841 - Wayne, like most all actors of that period were under contract to the studios, not free agents. They did not have much "choice" in the roles they played. Also, scripts back they were heavily scrutinized for political correctness of the era. Even MASH (1971) was portrayed in the Korean Conflict even though it was criticizing the Vietnam Conflict. I do not base my water on how things have come today but on what happened in history. In that scene, Wayne portrays the America's as a wilderness free to anyone who came. It completely ignores (as much of taught US history does) the indigenous peoples that were pushed out of those lands. And you go on to call those people incestuous, with weak immune systems. That is simply your ignorance showing. The America's were populated with Millions of indigenous peoples. They were not technologically evolved because they did not spend 3000 years at constant war with each other. Unlike Europeans, they were more in harmony with the land and each other. Do not take that as they were all tree huggers and flower children. They had their differences and their wars, but they never sought the need to kill each other better than what they already knew. They did not build big, overcrowded cities where people lived in close proximity to domesticated animals for centuries (thus the disease issue). They did not enslave entire populations. Even the Chinese did not take gunpowder and invent the gun or giant bombs; they used it (mostly) for fireworks. The Spanish Flu of 1918 devastated both the US and Europe. Yet, by your logic, those people should have had strong immune systems and been totally unaffected by such trivial disease. You really just do not seem to understand disease, immunity, or exposure. Let me give you an exercise in both US history and "weak" immune systems. Read this link on the American Chestnut: www.mountainhomemag.com/2014/06/04/186741/the-fall-of-the-american-chestnut Like the tree, the indigenous peoples had zero exposure to foreign disease and thus, zero immunity. Millions and millions died in European cities over the course of centuries from those diseases and only those that were immune survived and later made in to the new world, bringing those microscopic invaders with them. In short, having a diverse gene pool has Zero impact on resisting/surviving a virulent pathogen.
@@johnwilloughby4841 - I think what you are really saying is: Those people were weak and deserved to be killed and conquered. Is that what you are really trying to say?
@@valkyriefrost5301 Oh Good Grief..,. If you really want to incite an argument by trying to put those infantile, insulting, and hateful words in my mouth simply to bring me down to your level just so you can feel good about yourself, I really have nothing more to say to you. I treated you like a man. I offered a clear, lucid, and thoughtful rebuttal to your shallow and lackluster two-sentence summary of American History, and you respond with woke, politically correct drivel. Just keep telling yourself how terrible America is... it has gotten you this far.
@@johnwilloughby4841 - On the contrary, John. I love my country, but we must admit and acknowledge that our we have our faults and have not been fair to others in the quest of "Manifest Destiny." The real shame is that what happened then still happens today. Trump race baited millions into voting for him. Build the Wall, Lock her up, Make America White Again, etc. These is the dark sides of this nation and its history. I do not want that kind of person as our leader. I want people educated to how we got here and then have a debate on the merits of that behavior. You idea that AMERICA IS GREAT is apart of your ego, not apart of your rational mind.
