The Archie comic is criminally underappreciated in the TMNT fandom, I feel like it was better than the cartoon by pretty much any measure you care to compare the two, and Wingnut and Screwloose are just one (two?) example.
Wow, I feel stupid. I never picked up on the Batman parody aspect. (That original design made it more obvious, though.) Although I'd either forgotten or never read the part where his parents specifically were killed, so that's probably why I didn't pick up on it. I did remember that his race had been wiped out, but didn't remember the part about the females specifically, or the symbiotic relationship between Wingnut & Screwloose's species, or Wingnut needing Screwloose to SLEEP. Regarding Batmania, Usagi Yojimbo introduced a clan of bat ninjas (The Komori Ninja) who had blades on their wings. They would swoop down and kill people. Other than being bats and operating out of a cave, they didn't have much in common with Batman. But there was a gag where a security guard sees them approaching and says, "It's bats, man!"
The irony is that this movie was supposed to be more "kid friendly" than the first, but Tokka and Rahzar really scared me as a kid! The violence in darker tone of the first movie didn't bother me one bit.
Although the story around them was quite.... conicidental, i really liked them. No one beats Bebop and Rocksteady though, but they were interesting characters as well. I was so excited to see them in Shredder's Revenge.
Archie wingnut my beloved. He’ll always be my favorite. Wacky anti hero is my favorite take on him like tournament fighters or early in Archie. I also had the toy and still remember being very let down by his appearances since then like the cartoon. Tho mutant mayhem gives me hope for mutanimal ally wingnut becoming the default going forward.
I feel like Scratch would have been better suited for a different Fred Wolf cartoon, Duck Tales. Even with its fourth wall jokes and Maltese Hamster silliness, a literal cat burglar in 19th century prison garb is just a little _too_ silly even for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Still, I enjoy hearing about TMNT oddities like Scratch and Hot Spot. Keep up the good work.
Wingnut and Screwloose deserved better in the 1987 cartoon than to be showcased as villains brainwashing kids at a military school. Ray Fillet didn't appear in the cartoon, but there was a different mutant fish named Ray. He was in one episode as a villain who self-redeemed at the end of the episode since his "pop" was a mad scientiat; common in Season 4 and 5 episodes.
The cartoon "Ray" confused the hell out of me when I was a kid. I later read that Ray's creator hated the cartoon script so much he refused to allow them to use the character, so the cartoon had to use a similar but legally distinct character.
I figured gang of four would be analog of apocalypse horseman and marvel characters like punisher and ghost rider, and the ghost rider villain the orb.
One of my two favorite under used tmnt character other being ray filled. thankfully he got a neca toy and soon if the mutant mayhem expands we can get more appearances. also of mutant nation can bring dreadmon as well.
It's a shame they never adapted the original version to screen. I didn't like what they did with him in the cartoons at all. In the original cartoon he was just a generic villain and in the 2012 series a Adam West parody.
@@kaylemathewcomendador6964 I've only seen a couple episodes of the 2012 show, but it seemed to have some dark (for a kids show) stuff in it that network TV would not have allowed in the 80s cartoon. (It was on cable rather than over-the-air, so I don't think they are as restricted as a result.) But the 2003 cartoon got away with quite a bit that was darker than the Archie Wingnut & Screwloose backstory.
@@KasumiKenshirou I’m referring to how ending a kids show with main or recurring group of good guy characters dying like that wouldn’t be kid friendly for most studio executives. Killing off the bad guy or a mentor figure for story progressing reasons is one thing, but a whole group of them at once? Seems like a tough sell to your average studio executives if you ask me.
I also find it strange that DC Comics hasn't cried foul with lawsuits. For the rest, as for 90% of cases, I prefer the duo's version of the 2012 cartoon. Also because it is very similar to Adam West's Batman.
That was usually the case. The cartoon would "waste" the characters from the toys and comics in lame one-off appearances, and then have a bunch of episodes with a bunch of lame 1920's gangster characters like Pinky McFingers and Don Turtelli. This is why I quit watching the show.
I'm writing my own TMNT Series and the designs are going to be Havely inspirited by the IDW comics and the Mutants in Manhattan video game maybe they'll be the same as in this version just with a deferent backstory new characters and events to make it deferent.
@@TheTurtleNexus when did she say that though? Give me the link where she states that her and Saki use to date. I literally just watched the original video and not one time did she or Splitter mention anything about Saki (Shredder) and Tang Shen ever dating
