this. such beautiful zone design and they're mostly just set dressing for hours of cutscenes to the new player. no incentive to explore, no feeling of danger, and barely a breath of a reward for doing side quests. you either hop on your flying mount and spam beast tribe quests or smack trees and fish

why?

Its better then yawntrail at least

So you’ve only played wrath.. it’s easier to say that you’ve never played wow before

@@alfredgreybeard ya, playing vanilla through wrath, and then vanilla classic and wrath classic means I never played before. You deserve a Nobel prize for that conclusion

This! I felt that same way. Getting to play all Jobs on one character and have shared progression amongst all of them is great in FFXIV, but it also means you are ALWAYS the same Lallafell (or Hyur,/Miq'ote etc...) that you always were, with the same general look. I much prefer the new Warband system for WoW , especially as I am an altoholic and every time I log in as a different character I see the same world but through very different eyes. Keeps everything exciting and fresh. I feel connected to the various cultures and societies much differently when I am playing a Forsaken vs when I am playing a Night Elf. Love all of that - and it's all made much better now that I can share everything amongst my entire Warband.

agreed as casual player it feel empty

Shadowlands has been going on until 2022, with only Dragonflight in between it and the War Within. That's 2 years ago. You can absolutely bring up Shadowlands here. + he really didn't talk about it alot, so it's not like it would be a big deal

If everything of the last 20 years stayed relevant no new players would ever join…

@@alfredgreybeard Except other MMOs do just fine keeping old content relevant without making it impossible to join. More avenues of progression can help even help new players get into the game, as they can assured and content that anything they do will progress them, it's not a waste to spend time doing some random content they find interesting, if you design progression right. Keeping stuff relevant doesn't mean you have to do all old content first, it means it all retains valid use cases for progression. There are many ways to do it. ESO does it by making all content equal power level, new stuff adds variance and options, not tiers over the old. Other MMOs do it by keeping old power gained, but not requiring it for new stuff. FFXIV does it by making max power in a single job easy to get, but max power in all jobs take a lot of effort, with occasional power ceiling increases with expansions, as opposed to WoW doing it with every patch. I know its easy to assume you have to content invalidate if WoW is all you know, but really you don't have to do what WoW did in vanilla and force everyone through a single progression path, you can use old content for variety progression alongside new in many ways. In the end, WoW has more than 20 years of content development and releases, but it feels tiny and limited to play. It manages to be a small and more limited experience than MMOs less than half its age, because it constantly makes sure to make all old content pointless and a waste of time to engage with. WoW paradoxically had the biggest scope and breadth of content in vanilla, before they pulled their first hard reset, and the game never managed to again have as much valid progression content available as it did back then.

it would ruin ffxiv like it ruinign wow now it a place that breed toxicity. it sistem is bad and punishing to much

@@anteprs7908 m+ its prob one of the biggest/best features in WoW. saying "it would ruin like it did" its just a dumbass take. and wow is the same level of toxic as FFXIV elite raids. Its just when content gets harder, people get more toxic and less aproachable.

@@Gril018 that why it should exist plus ffxiv lack the players intrested in it ,it not worth getting more toxicity. Also m+ is the most toxic content it timer alone is proof

Remember dark ranger is get a redo this month