And of course the response..."well you need a higher resolving system" then you will hear the difference. I am sure there are those self described golden ear people that can tell the difference all the time. You know the same ones that can tell when their cables on on or off the floor.
What about using energy star (Power factor corrected) switch mode power supply? Should provide significantly more current than non Energy Star PFC PSU as the efficiency and current availability is substantially higher.
the sound with psx r is significantly worse ! 1, The sound is more smooth, which is not very friendly for audiophiles, because the instruments merge more 2, the bass has more volume and is less defined 3, stereo image is better without psx-R 4, the sound is not so gentle with PSX-R i tried multiple psx-r devices, PRE2 dac , CDi ,
Does pressing the standby/off/on button on the host unit… control the standby/off/on of the power supply or do you have to reach around the back of the power supply to turn it on and off separately ?
The voice of reason. So much of it is about chasing the numbers. If you can see 192kHz on the screen of your streamer it's bound to sound better - isn't it???
My headphones are disconnecting from my iphone after less then 2 minutes plus they can be charging for few hours and when I connect them to iphone after less then 2 minutes I can hear battery is low 🫣
I love hearing about the great and important turntables but sadly it all just ended up sounding like someone relating his tales about people and friends weve never met , and dont know ourselves , so it almost became self indulgent and a bit boring . This is You Tube a visual medium , not radio even if you mentioned Tony Blackburn it’s not the 1970s or 60s . If only we could have seen just a photo of one or two of the tables he mentions , I imagine the JBL slate turntable , it looks amazing , I think ? Y the way I once had an amazing turntable that had a highly original method for the main bearing and tonearm that I’ve never seen before , it looked like , o I’ve got a good photo here but you’ll just have to imagine it . Even college tutors or health and safety classes use a PowerPoint photo to illustrate their dialogue , it’s not difficult and it’s definitely not radio .
@gargamel5366 thanks I got some 4mm z plug from amazon of cheap just to see. Turns out they fit great , then I bought some Adapters 2 days later to turn the cyrus plugs into banana plugs, making my first purchase a waste of money :) Things we do hey , I got it second hand for £100 the transformer bracket had broken, so nobody wanted it on eBay, so I jumped at the chance . All I did was use some temp silicon adhesive for £6 and it's as good as new. I took a gamble, really, but it paid off . I'm using it as we speak. It's a great amp. I highly recommend them for sure . Thanks for the reply:)
@@itisjustacomment You were a bit lucky :) I used to own a Cyrus 6 DAC Anniversary and was quite satisfied. Unfortunately Satan tempted me and I sold it. Now after several amplifier changes to different brands, I've come to the conclusion that it's probably best to go back to the Cyrus. I'd like to get a set of the Cyrus Pre2 QXR and the Stereo 200. It's nice that the Cyrus in Class D have standard speaker connectors. I don't like the plugs. Just bare cables.
@gargamel5366 Nice set up , I'm thinking about buying more parts of mono blocks or a power supply. I'm just enjoying it at the moment , Dacs are still going for amazing money, even older ones . We shall see , I don't think I'll get it for the price. I did the 8, but you never know :):
@@itisjustacomment Unfortunately, Cyrus is quite an expensive brand, seen as high-end. Even used ones are a wagonload of money. It seems to me that older Cyrus amp models can be upgraded. Could you add a DAC board to your Cyrus 8? I think it would work out cheaper than buying a separate DAC.
Excellent video! Thanks for the clarifications, for a regular user these explanations are welcome. I was about to spend a lot of money but I think my best is in the CD quality area. Thank you!
If you'd do a blind test between 24/192 and 16/44.1 you would at the VERY best hear a very slight difference in the upper most treble, but most likely you wouldn't hear any difference whatsoever since I bet you don't hear anything over 12-20khz (depending on your age) and don't play your music at 100dB+ anyways.
Who's buying the players like this CYRUS?!? - Ugly design, poor and pathetic display, the remote control looks very cheap, CD-loader as in the car's CD-player, display looks like the same one in a children's TOYS and, finally, after pressing the push-button you hear a disgusting sound of "click" - as if a fat flea was cruched. Never would have bought this CD-player, even if it sounded better then any other competitors.
I have a 2005 Jaguar Vanden Plas. This display and complexity reminds me all too much of my Vandy. This is so far back British styling and logic that’s its completely and uncomfortably irrelevant in today’s world. May I humbly suggest taking a year off to completely redesign an modernize this ….
Interesting, with the tone test I heard the 12.5k test as a high pitched sound (both channels) the 16k test I heard as a low frequency tone, and 18k I heard as a high pitch (higher pitch than the 12.5k tone) but only in the right channel (right ear) Headphones are Monoprice M1060 Open Back Planar headphones. You can work out my views on hi-res as I have a modern implementation of the original TDA1540D chips running non-oversampling.
The SME-III pick doesn't surprise me. I've played with various arms, mostly medium and heavy-weight, and yet my favorite so far has been an ultra-low-mass AT-1100 with a high compliance Stanton Epoch. There's just something to that sound, though I wouldn't characterize the AT as smooth- its fluid damping in the horizontal plane really helps that out, gives it scale and depth. A fantastic combo that, I think, would shock some LOMC fanatics. It's just fallen so out of favor that you rarely hear such a thing these days. That said, a V-15vmr will work on my SME-V, because of its damping brush.... but 'working' and sounding its best just aren't the same thing.
The filters are not only applied in DA conversion, but also in the studio‘s AD conversion, Hi-Res allows for less steep filters, therefore less damage to the audio signal. Gentler filters = better audio. Studies have shown that the human hearing resolution is ca. 7 microseconds. You claim that more than 44.1 kHz sampling frequency is not necessary. However, CD quality only means a time resolution of 20 µs. Only at 192 KHz sampling do we get down to 5 µs. From this I conclude that Hi-Res can make sense over this point of view. Granted, not every listener will have that ability, but prof. musicians and conductors with trained listening may have.
Bravo! Very few people get this. Music is not just about frequency but also about timing. HighRes has some benefits for transient response and timing. My opinion is that 96khz is the sweet spot for high fidelity. Going higher may give another 1% or 2% in quality but is it worth the expense and will you notice. You need to have very good equipment compared to the average consumer to really get any benefit.
AD with oversampling is a thing you know, and delivering something higher than 44.1 ain't necessary since we don't hear over 20khz anyways (most people go even lower than that). This time resolution thing ain't an argument either since those waveforms can very much happen between samples as well. Don't underestimate that sinc!
So happy to see somebody like the SME Series III as well. I own it too (as well as the II non-imp) and like it very much. It was Stereophile's reference tonearm for some years...
It's not so long ago we were being told the Stereo 200 is amazingly good and "better" than a class A/B (in a Cyrus RU-vid vid). Now the new class A/B amps are so much "better" than the Stereo 200 in class D - which Cyrus seem to have dropped (why no more development of class D?), maybe it wasn't as good as we were led to believe after all.
I issue you with a challenge. Compile a lengthy playlist of CD quality tracks you enjoy listening to. Compile an identical playlist, this time using ‘high res’ tracks. Listen to both. I bet you will suffer from listener fatigue far quicker with the CD quality, even if you don’t hear a difference.
Excellent. I went down this rabbit-hole months ago. My less expert conclusion was the same; we don't need hi-res, but as I listen mostly to Classical, and the stereo era began seventy years ago, many famous recordings from the pre-digital era, particulary the Solti Ring and the Britten Requiem, have since been remastered. You don't need hi-res to benefit from this, but the remastering is what mattered: cleaning up the original tapes, changing balances, fixing pitch, etc. etc. So the new Solti Ring is as good at 16/44 as at 28/192; the difference you're hearing is the remastering, not the upsampling.
Do we need 3000cc car. Why I need 3000cc car, a 1300cc car already can give me 110km/hour speed on the highway that is the speed limit set by the government. Now I can decide to go ahead to purchase the 1300cc car, and use it for maybe 10 years, after 10 year I just need to buy another new car that is 1300cc and so on for the rest of my life, and I can save a lot and keep the saving together with me and live a happy life forever and ever……amen.
The video and the explanations given in it are excellent, easy to understand and, above all, true. However, the background music cut in at far too high a level is absolutely annoying! It would be nice if Cyrus could re-release this helpful video, this time without the music. Thanks!
i never heard more unclear and week sond of you talking...what the heck...and you represent a hi-fi amplifier...? why do you have the noisy music background?
I've soldiered on with my Marantz CD6004 for a number of years, but with our downsizing move to a small home in a retirement village, I feel the need to finally downsize my next cd player. The obvious contender is Cyrus CDi. Expensive certainly, but with lots of promise especially over my old Marantz, and I think I've convinced the War Department that we both really do need a better player...
It’s very hard to compare apples vs apples in this debate due to mastering differences. But having said that I still often find the musical performance from the vinyl medium to be very musically coherent. What do I mean by this ? I mean that my perception is that I am easily able to follow the music without having to put in a lot of effort. In comparison with digital gear I found the sound rather mechanical and dissected, lacking wholeness and integrity. It’s only when manufacturers started really attacking the problem of jitter, with quality clocking schemes did I start to get the same level of enjoyment with digital. (Early CD players were shockingly terrible with a sound like breaking glass. I upgraded a few of my CD players with upgraded aftermarket clock modules, and sonic performance was significantly enhanced.) I know that on paper digital is better in terms of technical specifications, but I can’t seem to explain the subjective performance of vinyl playback. They say if it measures bad but sounds good, it is good. And if it measures well but sounds bad, then you are measuring the wrong thing !!
What sounds best for one person is not what sounds best for another: we are not industrial products, each of us has a different perception, this include different sound perception. A person trained in classical music with real instruments for years will have a far higher sensitivity to sound quality than the pop music lover listening to mp3 lossless compressed with low quality in ear bluetooth compressed earbud. Same for somebody trained to cooking in 5 stars restaurant will have a far different palate than a mc donald customers. Generally speaking masses have been trained for decades to love very low quality of anything: food, audio, tv series, reasonings, morals, that's why the world is going downhill.
Okay. Silly question. Which is more challenging to an amp- digital or analog? Wrong question? Im curious if this is even a consideration for manufacturers? Also- thank you! Good conversation. On my turntable with my cartridge i thought i imagined a kind of strange strain as my records come to the end of its travel- the end of the record side. Distortion?
We don’t really consider digital and analogue as different (from an amplifier perspective). Hi-res digital content might might present some challenges due to ultrasonics potentially present. It is discussed in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8zQMevxO-84.html