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@@tomclams3689 it better mirrors your phone screen when using Apple Car Play / Android Auto But yeah I feel they made the screen bigger but used the old software 😂 Honestly not enough changes between my 24 and the 25s to make me go trade up for a 25
@@bogkazealijamislim5998 they don't make a diesel Frontier for the US market. But it's one of the last NA V6s offered. I also have no use for a diesel truck
@@bogkazealijamislim5998 oh you know it! 😂 I added the loop to it in hopes of getting the sound right (me trying to fix the unequal lenght exhaust) but all I really did was make it sound like a Toyota 😂
@@bogkazealijamislim5998 I missed out on the Mitsubishi Raider with the 4.7 v8. This is my 3rd pickup. The 1st was a 2006 GMC Canyon with the i5. The 2nd was a 2003 S10 Zr2.
Which BTW, the width of the exhaust (from center line to center line) is 29in. I need to build a 29in loop in the right side. And the pipe kit i ordered is the same diameter and material as the rest of the catback.
@@josephmorales9625 then the product isn't for you lol. But the majority of people have a issue with it. Congrats on the leveling kit, which one did you go with?
@@jasco1776 yep, that's the plan. Since it's only now beginning to weep, I still have time to do out the exhaust like it want. I'll do the diff before it gets cold for winter
Z1 makes a real good exhaust not sure if it's equal length Nismo & borla also have really good exhaust you'd probably like the borla & z1 also z1 has some great products as they specialize in all things Nissan is air intakes tunes even a supercharger as well as suspension upgrades though personally I like the even bigger billstien suspension from Nismo with shock reservoirs
@@marksullivan8200 oh I'm familiar with Z1! I have the underseat storage bin on pre-order and have ordered a few things from them before. To my knowledge, nobody makes a equal lenght exhaust for the Frontier. I'm going to build one off an MBRP exhaust. The supercharger is not available yet and still in development. I'm planning for 2025 a titan swap with OME BP51 shocks. The nismo setup is a revalved titan shock.
Also a friendly helpful tip here: Drain & fill your ATF every 20,000-30,000 miles. A little bit of love goes a long way in this regard. Our CVT-equipped Nissans (3 Z12 cubes, 1 C11 Versa 1.8 Hatchback, 1 B16 Sentra 2.0, 1 F15 Juke 1.6 Turbo, 1 E52 Quest 3.5, 1 L32 Altima 2.5, 1 A35 Maxima 3.5) have lasted 200,000+ miles with absolutely no issues. Periodic inexpensive and very easy-to-do CVT fluid exchanges (performed by myself after learning how easy it is) kept them smooth and problem-free for all of our years of ownership. CVTs get a bad wrap by haters, but our experience with them has been flawless. Again, just like anything else, a little bit of prevention and proper maintenance goes a long way. Ditto with my manual transmission vehicles: 1 ('05) D40 Frontier Crew Cab 4.0 SE 6MT, 3 C11 Versa 1.8 Sedans 6MT, 1 RE91S Suzuki Kizashi 2.4 6MT, 1 R50 Pathfinder 3.3 5MT, 1 4G Mitsubishi Eclipse 2.4 5MT. I've drained & replaced the ATF (+ filter) in our vehicles (early on at the dealerships and later myself) equipped with conventional automatic transmissions every 40-60K miles for decades: '89, '94, '95 Maximas, '93 Infiniti J30s, '01 R50 Pathfinder 3.5 SE, '03 S50 Infiniti FX35 Sport 3.5, '09 JT Suzuki Grand Vitara 3.2, '09 9G Mitsubishi Galant ES 2.4. Doing this kept all of the aforementioned out of the transmission shop going on 35 years now. I sincerely believe modern-day transmissions require proper maintenance for longevity. In the past, one could get away with 100K mile ATF changes. For better or worse, this isn't the case anymore...Good Luck & Enjoy the Ride!!!
@@craigslistseller9354 to be fair to the CVT haters, there is a very large number of documented failures in CVTs even with proper maintenance being done. Nissans was the most notorious for this with a lot of them failing before 60k miles. This is a big reason Nissan has the bad rep it does. I'd blame Renault more there for cost cutting. I've only had 2 trans missions outright fail on me. One was a 4L60E in my 2003 S10 Zr2. The other was a 4L65E in my 2006 GMC Canyon. The S10 went out at 224k and the canyon went at 197k. I'm pretty religious about maintenance myself too. But its not unheard of for people to get lucky and get good ones and it sounds like you've been pretty lucky.
@@craigslistseller9354 I have had a decent list of cars myself over the last....say 15 years. In no particular order they are; 1999 Saturn SL1 (MP6) 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee (42RE) 2003 Chevy S10 Zr2 (4L60E) 2004 Chevy Impala (4T60E) 2004 Mitsubishi Eclipse (40TE) 2005 Mercury Mountaineer (5R55E) 2006 GMC Canyon (4L65E) 2006 Chevy Uplander (4T65E) 2008 Grand Cherokee (W5A580) 2008 Kia Sedona (5spd auto) 2014 Grand Cherokee (850RE) 2014 Ford Escape (6F35) 2024 Frontier (JR913E)
@JJsGA I would bet most of those CVTs that failed at or before 60K miles never had their CVT fluid changed at the 30-40K mile intervals recommended by Nissan. A service writer I was loyal to would share the many times cars were towed in whose CVTs were severely neglected. Most never had fluid servicing because owners employed outside shops or oil service centers that aren't interested in or were unfamiliar with CVTs. Additionally, he humorously shared of many cases (since the mid- to late 2000s) of the havoc caused by backyard mechanics (usually relatives or friends of friends) who filled regular ATF in the failed CVTs. Wrong! Hopefully, the learning curve in the US has plateaued by now, as Honda (HRV, CRV, Accord) and Toyota (2014+ Corolla) have also experienced catastrophic CVT failures (but Toyota & Honda are masterful at suppressing this type of reputation-damaging info much better than Nissan). I've had two friends who were mechanics at Toyota and one who is still a master tech at a major CA Lexus dealership for nearly 20 years now. Over the past 15+ years, all 3 have shared what happens behind the scenes. Information suppression is real.
@@craigslistseller9354 I bet and don't deny the suppression. Yeah a lot of backyard "mechanics" doing work on things they know nothing of. I personally just don't have an interest in CVTs, just not my thing. My Frontier is the 1st vehicle I've owned since new....I say owned as I have no intention of missing payments lol and have taken steps to ensure I never do. But being that I'm the only owner of the truck, I have full control over its maintenance vs buying used and not having a known history on it. I myself have a strong mechanical background with a decade of being a mechanic with 3 of those years working for Roush on their Thermal Aero Systems Engineering team (TASE)....let's just say I've had my hands in a lot of things Ford and it's competition durring that time....can't really say much due to NDAs (which expire 2029!)
@JJsGA 👍👍👍 That's an impressive list!!! Since high school back in the early '80s, I've probably owned over 120 vehicles from German, Japanese and American brands. I've self-medicated since childhood with automobiles! As a youngster, I watched my dad and second oldest brother overhaul American V8s, Nissan L-Series 4-cylinders and BMW inline 6s. One day, I need to list all the vehicles I've owned. Today, life perspectives are much simpler, especially after caregiving my mom -- who suffered from late-stage Alzheimer's and was fully-bedridden-- from 2015-2020.. I currently own a stable of unpopular sales failures in the US market: Bulletproof reliable and simple misfits with a lot of character that were derided by the mainstream American automotive press brigade. I love every single one of them. Go figure. 😆
Change your oil. I changed mine at 2500 and it was filthy. First one the most important. Nissan dealerships use a 50% synthetic. Get yourself some good oil. Keep on trucking.😬
You're not wrong lol. Personally I do use mine for groceries but also for work reasons. Being a property manager, I do need to move appliances or get supplies to flip an apartment or to move bags of salt from one side to the other. It's not too often but I do lol. Which is why I'm fine with the 5foot box. It meets my needs and the large back seat space is great for Thor!
I purchased the 2024 Pro 4X early August and so far I really like it. Only a couple nitpicks so far, no locking gas cap, can only see the driver window button at night, would've liked the backseat to be able to recline vs sitting straight up, and maybe have the rear headrest able to fold down for better visibility.
The one thing I like on my 2018 pro-4 is the white gauge package on the instrument cluster. Wonder why Nissan didn't include it on the 2024 pro-4. And for the new generation did they mod the rear axle breather? For an off road package it would prevent water from entering the rear axle or clog the breather causing pressure to build up inside the axle housing and blowing out the axle seals. After having my fill of GM trucks, l'm stuck on Nissans. Nothing too fancy and a truck that can get the job done.
@@junelipinski2025 unfortunately the 3rd gen still has the diff breather issue. But the same mod to extend it works as it's the same axle. I myself had 2 GM trucks before this one. A 2003 Chevy S10 Zr2 and a 2006 GMC Canyon. Both of them had the transmission do 4l60 things lol
I almost went with this for my 2023 Pro4x. However I opted for the OEM 2015 Titan rear finned aluminum cover from SPICER. It came with the fill plug and the installation bolts. Got it for 108.00 total cost with gasket 146.00. I too used the LUBE LOCKER gasket. My 2023 owners manual says 75w90 for the gear oil in the rear diff. years before it was 75w-140.
@@PRO4XKEV interesting...I hadn't considered the titan dif cover...I just worry with it being a finned cover thay I'd plug the fins up or bend it up...which is why I want the thicker ARB cover
@@ItxStxck I'd say it depends. If your an audiophile like I used to be, maybe not as you could build a better system. If you just want something better then the base system that sounds pretty decent....yeah I say it's worth it. It's a 440w, 10 speaker system. Despite not having mid range adjustment or being able to adjust the subwoofer level separately from the bass level, you can make it sound good by playing around with it.
Nice truck man. I have the same, well a 23' pro4x. I installed the ADO Fox extended kit with the ADO parabolic leaf pack, had on the truck for about a year now. So, I like the kit, for the most part, but would not recommend the parabolic leaf pack, unless you are going to load down the truck, like 300-400 plus pounds in the bed at all times. I had about 300lbs in the bed, and the truck drove like an F-250, 3/4 ton truck. very stiff and unpleasant for a daily driven truck, plus very limited rear wheel travel. I recently moved back to where all my tools are, and re-installed the factory leaf pack with an add-a-leaf and the ride is much better, almost rides like factory now, smooth. Not to mention the ADO leaf pack squeaked like crazy, sounded like an old rusty POS truck all the time. The Fox kit that ADO sells, isn't really for our trucks. When mine arrived, shittly packed might I add, all the boxes said the shocks were for a ford ranger, but the labels were scratched out with a sharpie, but could still read it. I don't think this matters too much, and I'm guessing it's because Fox doesn't actually make a kit for the frontier. Valving is prob similar. I also reduced some of the pre-load on the front coil overs to make the ride height/quality similar to the back. If I did it again, I'd maybe check out radflo or some other monotube shock. oh, and their "extended travel" kit, is them taking the coilovers apart and removing a spacer and re-assembling.
@@monocogenit1 I agree with all of this! I do plan on having 300ish lbs of constant load with the addition of a full skid plate package, rock rails and an offoad bumper n winch setup..... I've also been eyeballing shocks from OME....their BP51s and the Dobinsons MMR shocks. I want the adjustability so I can fine tune it. I do know there are Fox shocks available thay are adjustable as well. So it sounds like I don't want the parabolic spring. What about the ADO BROverland springs? Or a leaf pack from Dobinsons?
@@JJsGA the bp51 look really well made, but don’t have any experience with them or the Dobinsons. I think the dobinsons are actually made for our trucks (well, the Navarro). And not sure about the brover land, looks like a more traditional leaf pack though. And I’d like to know who makes ADO leaf packs, due to there being a structural component of the suspension. Obviously Chad ain’t back there forging leafs out. I asked, he wouldn’t tell me, guessing he thought I was going to try to source them myself, kinda silly. Was just curious, guessing deaver or something
@@monocogenit1 yes dobinsons makes kits for our trucks. I have some speculation that titan shocks will work for the rear....but there's no dobinsons there. Radflo yes lol. The only shock I've seen that can accommodate a 3in lift in the rear is Rough Country's N3 shock...and well 🤮
@@monocogenit1 I just got confirmation from Z1 Offroad that the titan and Frontier share a 14mm shock mount in the rear. This means I can run titan shocks in the rear to accommodate a 3in rear lift! This opens up more options then just having Rough Country
Man you prolly just need to trade it in for a Tacoma😂…. I’m just messing I really do like the frontiers I ordered a ranger I was torn between the two it’s not in yet I think I’m just gonna do some miner things like a leveling kit a bed cover not much.
@@ygyffc 😂 Well the good thing about the rangers is that there was NO recalls on the 5th gen. Time will tell with the 6th gen ones. At least you can get a V6 twin turbo in them! That was the one thing that turned me off the 5th gen was they only had the 2.3eb for is in the US
@@JJsGAyes the 2.3 liter I’m a little iffy about but my company truck has a ecoboost and the engine has took a beating and still going strong so I’ll give it a try. I originally ordered the 2.7 but canceled after it was gonna take 6 months and that was just a guesstimate.
@@ygyffc I had the Colorado Trail Boss as my number 2 pick if I wasn't able to get my Frontier. That 2.7 is over built so if I was to do a turbo 4 in a truck it would have been that one. The issue with the ecoboost 4s is that they are an open deck design. I came from a 1.6eb escape which was prone to warping the block....
I was not a fan of the tail pipe on my 2023 P4X, so I removed the tail pipe and cut the pipe 3 inches from the weld of the pipe at the muffler, and installed a 12 inch dump and clamped it. There is plenty room between pipe and axle. The sound is a little different, but IMO it looks better and it shed 11 lbs from truck. If I ever replace the exhaust I am going with NISMO..
I love my P4X, 2023. The new Taco is a 4 banger with turbo, No thanks.. and you do not get much for the money. I have leather and every option, mine was 50k out the door, I was fortunate to trade a vehicle in and cash out the P4X.
Exactly! I am under the strong belief that the Frontier offers the greatest "Cost to Value" ratio. Mine was 48k out the door and the only package I don't have is the "Pro Premium" as well....I don't care for leather or the sunroof. I'm changing wheels eventually so why pay for different stock ones....and I don't have a garage so a garage door opener is useless. I do wish I had the auto dimming mirror but I can add that in for a couple hundred and wire it up!
I went with these as they are "slightly" less intrusive to the grill. Simply clips into place. But I do like how the Z1 kit is recessed in the grill....idk about 100$ nice tho. If these fail then I'll do the Z1s
Love my 23' Pro4x. purchased in May of 2023, now has 18K Miles. Mine is the base, with no packages. but it did have towing hitch/wiring installed. $42K out the door, taxes everything. -$2k for trade, $5k down. financed $35k. Not to bad for a brand new truck with locking rear diff. and as you mentioned...relatively simple vehicle, compared to the competition. KISS.
@@craigslistseller9354 I watched the same video. The problem with the Z1 system (and I liked that one too) is where the merger between left and right side happens at. It makes it significantly harder to make the exhaust equal lenght...which is what I'm going for. The rest of the systems the merge happens closer to the muffler which gives room to install a loop in a manner that will allow me to also install a full skid plate package (lol I realize I'm spilling some beans on truck build plans here) To this end, I feel the any of the MBRP setups would be best and still deliver a sound profile close to the Z1....and more VQ like in note with the exhaust equalized.
@@tonyb.5768 no. You missed some of the good thinks I mentioned about the truck before I reached the spot. How about next time you clear a spot for me.
