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Sculpt is garbage. I had to purchase 3. Every time something broke. 1st one, dongle went bad. 2nd one, mouse went bad (you can only buy it as a set), 3rd one mouse windows button went bad via the PCB, so I had to frankenstein the two working mice.
Fist time going for an ergonomic keyboard. Thanks for the video, it helped a bit: I'll start with some cheap trial version and then would go for ERGO I guess
Thanks for sharing! I was going to get the pink wave! Because it’s pink lol and also smaller but I think I may go for the K860. I just wish they had it in white. But ergo is more important to me than anything else. Update: I actually ended up getting the model K350 Logitech. My friend has two of them and she let me borrow one for a week and I truly have to say I loved it! Fits perfectly in my hand as I type. Thanks again for sharing!
The reason, why the microsoft dongle is unique to the keyboard, is encryption. They are using AES encryption to encrypt the keystrokes that are send over 2.4GHz. Thus the encryption keys are stored on the dongle and you can't just swap them.
My big issues with it is the price and how high it sits naturally. I like it overall though! I will be making a video review on the Kinesis 360 within the next couple weeks, so that may be worth waiting for.
I'm contemplating purchasing this monitor and it's a dual monitor set up. It's a 2021 model. Are there any major flaws and features I might miss out on with a more recent model than the 2021 version you know of or anyone? Any assistance will be super helpful.
I’m not aware of any. I think the Neo and OLED versions just have different screen display technology. I’m not aware of different features they have, but I still use this monitor since I haven’t felt the need to upgrade it.
I'm here after your ergonomic keyboards video. Your reviews are extraordinary. You talk about the facts from a user's perspective. It's so rare to find here. Most others just run down lists of specs, but you explain the actual details! This is so helpful for trying to understand how to make a decision (rather than relying on someone's word).
Thank you! I appreciate that! That's really what I'm trying to go for on my review videos since those reviews are way too common and unhelpful in my opinion.
I would also say that shaking your legs all the time is a sign of stress which would be a cause of pain in your body so ergonomic keyboard is a breeze but taking frequent breaks moving out of the way of your computer would also help a lot.
@@techbrojoe I went G5 --> G9 --> G502 (the 502 being my daily driver for about 8 or so years now) and honestly the 502 has been perfect, never felt the need to change mice! I'll definitely give the MX vertical an honest shot at my work setup tho
I see now the G502 is wireless which is one reason I didn’t keep using it. I also had the G602 and gave it away since it was a heavy mouse with double A batteries. G502 wireless will definitely be considered for the new video.
@@techbrojoe sorry I meant the 502 Hero, which is wired. Wireless mice just feel weird to me, not sure if it is because of latency or the weight or both!
I used to have a G502 back in the day but I stopped using it and started using Glorious Model 1 2 Wireless and then Logitech Lift and MX Master S and now I have wrist popping issues. MIght go back to the G502 honestly.
I think another thing I haven't seen any ergo keyboard do is having the number pad on the left (fixed that is). I don't have one myself but it seems like it would help on that mouse extension problem while still having the full numpad. Aswell as the normal advantages of being able to type on the numpad while using the mouse when you do have it on the left. Also kinda dislike how there is no real way to just plug them in with a cable and use them that way, without the dongle or if you run out of batteries/the batteries you already have finally die. But that is kind of nitpicking at that point.
k860 has been the best keyboard I have worked with, hope some day logitech makes one model without extra number path, that is not neccessary for everyone
I have used the MS Sculpt for more than 5 years now and I really liked it. It is good ergonomically and the separate numerical keyboard is such a great thing, I don't know why other didn't copy the idea. I am tempted to get the Logitech one but what puts me of is its width, I don't like the numerical keyboard there for the reasons mentioned in the video.
Mine took about 3 days or so to get used too, but I love it now. I still get some thumb strain if it isn't positioned just right, but it's definitely better on my hands/wrist than when I raw dog the mouse.
I've had MS Scupt for years. I like it a lot but that thing needs an update. The F-row needs be made out of normal keys like the rest of the keyboard. Also, they need to ditch the function switch. It needs to be a key. The mouse that came in the package with it is trash.
Excellent review! Few years later, I'm considering getting this for my 4080 rig. Don't wanna go OLED yet as I use my monitor for work and don't want to risk burn in
Tip: Your reviews should mention whether the key characters are just stickers or something more permanent. On MS keyboards the stickers regularly wear off on me after just a few months.
Very helpful, unfortunately you answered my most important question: about the dongle! So I know for sure now that I can't buy any of the many that are advertised on ebay etc as being 'without receiver but for spare parts'. I can't imagine what spare parts there might be?!?!? I haven't lost the dongles for any of my six sculpt keyboards and I swear by them BUT the next important question is: when a keyboard becomes unresponsive for no apparent reason, what could the reason be? I've checked all the batteries, cleaned away any corroding on the battery contacts that might have developed while I'm travelling, And, on one of the keyboards [again, all Microsoft sculpt] the entire top row of F keys stopped responding as well as Q, W,E, R,T, A, Z....I live and work alone and nothing has spilled onto any of the keys and I'm temped to try to open up some to the keys and try compressed air, but I can't find a youtube instruction as to how to do this. This key board was initially expensive, yes, but I've used them with every computer I've every worked with and my wrists, elbows and shoulders are all happier for it!
Hi Joe.. Was just about to buy my first ergonomic keyboard and caught your video first.. helped nudge me in the direction I was already going and bought the K680. Thanks for showing these and your opinions.
I've been using the K860 since Sept '22, and could never see myself going back to a normal keyboard. No wrist pain since using it. Wish there was a mechanical switch version, but otherwise the perfect ergo option.
Nice review. I recently purchased the ERGO M575 track ball mouse & really like it. Will go for the K860 soon. I hope I can use it with my Android phone to build my typing skills using NitroType racing game on my phone. I love this competitive typing game which improves a valuable life skill.
I wanna come back to this cause i bought one a month ago and i would like to say thank you, I wouldn't have not known about this product if i hadn't come accross this video. its the best thing ever! It feels very good to use.
Great review. I have been a K860 user for years now. My ONLY complaint is that I end up destroying both the keyboard and the Logitech Ergo mouse. The keyboard will last around a year and then the mouse will last less than a year. The keyboard keys will start to stop working and the mouse's right mouse button will stop holding. This means that if I let's say right click and drag, I can right-click and start to drag, but between where I start and my destination, the mouse button releases. It seems to be a mechanical issue from what I have found on Reddit. I should mention that I work from home and I game... So both the mouse and the keyboard are being worked hard daily. I can't imagine using anything else at this point.
finally a review about ergonomic keyboards that have a negative tilt option and, are spoken in everyday speech instead of spewing a bunch of tech jargon to appear "knowledgable."
Have you tried different ergonomic mice? Can you make a video on the vertical one you have and any others you have tried? Ive been using the sculpt combo for over an year at work and need a new keyboard and mouse for home but the sculpt is out of stock and does not have multi device connectivity which is a major L for home use for me - you are like THE guy I need to hear an opinion from on ergonomic mice. I tried a cheap vertical years ago but it was way too vertical it puts a different strain and forced me to lift thumb which was really disappointing. PS the scupt mouse is WEIRD but it absolutely helps with painful wrists and it's perfectly fine after a few days for use.
That’s a good idea for a short and sweet video. The mouse I use is the Logitech MX Vertical. I actually have 2 of them. One for work and one for personal use. I’ve tried the vertical Anker one a long time ago and disliked it. I couldn’t even tell you the model. I’ve also tried trackpads for about a month, but it caused my wrist to be pronated the same as a traditional mouse, so it didn’t really help.
If you’re talking ergo keyboards, you should truly examine split ergo designs. This feels like a super “lite” version of ergo if you’re not quite sure you’ll need it but want to feel better.
Perhaps in the future! I tried a Moonlander and it really turned me off of split keyboards. Most of the more ergonomic keyboards are more expensive too. This video was meant more to be general ergo keyboards people could purchase at most major retailers.
I had the Sculpt for a couple of years and switched to the K860. The Sculpt is okay, but poorly executed. The shape and design seem good, but the connection is really poor. It frequently drops, particularly while you are typing, which is incredibly annoying. The separate number pad is also a flaw, I was constantly hitting it with my hand when going for the mouse and leaving it at home or the office when I left. There should have been an option to attach it physically. The battery compartment it also terrible with a watch style flat battery and a plastic screw that breaks on first use. The Logitech is so much better overall and it's the best keyboard I've come across. It's a far better typing experience than the Sculpt or even normal keyboards such as the MX Keys. The only downside to it is the footprint, the thing is huge, which makes it less portable. I couldn't go back from the K860 to a standard keyboard now.
Strange, my sculpt atthe office has regular cylindrical batteries and have not had connectivity issues also I keep the numpad on the left of the keyboard so my keyboard can be put dead center In front of me and no reason to put my mouse further pout to the right than needed - this is and the erhonomics is the whole reason I purchased it; and the only negative to the K860 - but I will get the 860 for my home pc next
sculpt interfers with other devices especially when plugged in obstruction... put it in same level and away from other radio devices.. no issues! the design and ffactor beats everything in its niche... F the only issue - MS marketing itself.. they can easely dicontinue bestsellers
I've been using the Sculpt keyboard for nearly eight years and love it. I was bummed when Microsoft discontinued them last year, but glad to hear you say Incase is bringing them back. I somehow missed that in the tech news. I'm in the market for new ergonomic keyboard and planned on getting the K860 since that seems to be the next closest thing. However, after doing more research on the Incase deal, I found an article by The Verge that says they'll also be releasing an entirely new ergonomic keyboard that Microsoft had under development. That sounds exciting, but not sure if I can be patient enough to see what it is, lol. I do like how the K860 can be paired using Bluetooth and has keys labeled for the Mac too (although the Sculpt also works just fine with the Mac as well). Decisions, decisions...
