Explaining Good Choices: Tech Specialists: *Legion* - He's geth. He's a geth infiltrator. *Tali* - Tali is a Quarian Engineer. She's a massive tech head. *Kasumi* - She breaks into vaults like it's nobody's business. Squad Leaders: *Jacob* - Jacob was an Alliance Corsair, who were Commanders of ships that were disconnected to the Alliance. Easy pick if you know. *Miranda* - It's not a popularity contest. Miranda is a good leader, having worked as a Cerberus Officer. She's so good, that for the second leader run, she doesn't even need to be loyal. *Garrus* - He's Turian, and he led his squad on Omega flawlessly until they were betrayed. If they had no betrayal, they'd still be there.
I picked Legion as tech specialist, I did his loyalty mission just before the suicide mission, so I barely knew him, I didn't want to risk send Tali or Kasumi so the Geth went. It turned out alright. Garrus was the leader of the second team because I trusted him. Samara dealt with the kinetic barrier I send Zaeed to escort the Normandy's crew Thane and Miranda fought the Human Reaper with Shepard.
I like how if you pick Garrus as the fire team leader, there's that little moment between Shepard and Garrus with that nod. Like, unspoken, between them, they both know what this means for Garrus: a second chance to make up for Omega.
Such an odd remark for Samara as she's not a good choice for leader, same with Zaeed. I wonder if they were originally going to be good candidates but was changed sometime during development.
It can happen in either dark side or light side. To trigger it one must get influence with Visas while getting negative influence with Handmaiden throughout the story. I agree it doesn’t make as much sense if it were light side, but I can understand it if Handmaiden cares for the exile and has her view of what is happening be warped by her feelings for the exile and with Kreia in her ear manipulating her.
@@TheProdigy-xb7bs so basically if Briana and Exile have a positive relationship and Visas and Exile have a positive relationship… then this scene would never happen?
This was from last gen version of ME2 and I believe the colors were a bit darker in that version. I was never able to recreate it in legendary edition sadly.
It's weird that Miranda comments on Tali's team being wiped out, but not Garrus'. The judgement is generally true, of course. Tali isn't a leader who commands loyalty, this was proven on Freedom's Progress, where her entire team effectively mutinied and got themselves killed. Garrus' team on the other hand was killed because of a combined assault from 3 merc organizations while Garrus was lured away by a traitor. I do think it's odd however that she considers Zaeed a good choice despite him primarily operating solo as a Merc for hire. What loyalty and trust would anyone have with Zaeed?
@@williamkerfoot8039 I wouldn't call it misdirecting, it's just strangely poor criticism for making the obviously bad decision. If you think this is misdirection, might I point you to the Escort/Hold The Line section where the game tells you that if you don't send someone to protect the Normandy Crew, they'll all die, implying you should send someone who's good at fighting or can take a hit. What the game doesn't tell you is literally ANYONE is sufficient at this task with no casualties, but if you pick a strong fighter, Mordin dies in the Hold The Line segment. The reason this is awful is because the mechanics that determine who dies in that segment are completely hidden from the player and are completely unique to that one decision in the entire franchise
Kaumi is always my tech specialist to go into the shaft. Her hacking expertise combined with her ninja infiltration on her loyalty mission had me sold and i knew i would pick her over Tali and Legion
It's kind of funny in a way. How Shepard comments on the Tech Specialists' qualifications, or how Miranda responds to your choice of Fire Team Leader are meant to clue you in on who's suitable and who's not. If she's critical of your choices and you receive a prompt to chew her out for it, then you know the choice in Fireteam Leader is a bad choice. The only two exceptions here are Zaeed and Samara. Apparently, both squadmates were originally planned to be suitable choice for 1st Fireteam Leader but were ultimately scrapped at the last minute. I guess they realized that Zaeed's a bit too unhinged and Samara was too much of a lone wolf to be suited for the task.
To be fair, Zaeed lost the Blue Suns because nobody was loyal enough to stop Vido from removing him of his position. And the years since that have not been good to his sanity (as shown by his Loyalty Mission). Garrus lead a group almost as diverse as Shepard's and only lost them because Mercs forced Sidonis to betray him. The guy didn't even want to do it and lost the will to live after that.
@@farseeraradrel4808 Zaeed was betrayed because he was against the Suns getting into the Batarian slave trade. More money, but sometimes money isn't worth your soul. He was deadlocked on Vido in that mission because he had taken everything from him and left him with a bullet in the head. When he saw Vido, he saw his chance to put those demons to rest. Damn anyone who gets in his way. Take the personal ties out of it, and you have a soldier who's led men into battle, has decades of experience under his belt, and founded one of the biggest mercenary organizations to ever exist. Compare that to Jacob, who is another viable leader who... did stuff. He was a corsair, whatever that is. He saved the Citadel once, I guess. Garrus is perfect in that role, and Miranda makes sense, but Zaeed would be cool as shit as an option.
When I first played ME2, I picked Thane for the vent mission. I thought it was more important to have someone stealthy rather than necessarily a tech specialist. Both Shepard and Thane agree that Thane's good at infiltration missions, and Thane even makes a comment during the mission itself that he finds it a little comfortable in there, so I thought I had made the right decision. I did not make the right decision ;_;
I imagine legion is the best for that, but I picked Tali and she died because I exposed what her father did in court. I thought it was the only way to help her at the time
STILL so mad Zaeed wasn't a valid choice for combat team leader. Man with the most combat experience, founding member of the Blue Suns, literally the best option, but his DLC was half baked, so he gets no joy. I lost legion because of that.
most of his missions ended with him the only survivor, not to mention he got kicked out form his own group, not the most inspiring person to follow to. a good fighter but not a good leader.
Yeah there is *no* way I can pick anyone but Garrus for team 2. He's already led people in battle with diverse personalities and skills thanks to his team on Omega. Dude has enough trust in you to openly follow you with no hesitation while working with anti-alien terrorists. The dude also has a bit of an inferiority complex to Shepard so this is my Shep's way of picking him up and dusting him off while telling him "don't worry. You're a badass. You got this bro."
@@inserisciunnome Yeah I've been using Kasumi and Legion for some other time too but then I saw "this mark" in save editor so I use Tali then, and yes, she mentioned about being amogus
I do Jacob for the first leg and Garrus the second. I want to give Jacob some relevance as a character (just like the 1 games Kal and Veetor when I choose "Rally the Crowd" at Tali's trial) and then I choose Garrus next because his armor is more credible at taking bullets.
@@s-094cam5 Yeah true, but in my playthrough i chose Jacob as the fireteam leader because i needed Garrus for gamepley reasons I chose Legion for the vents
In my playthrough of mass effect 2 with the original and the legendary edition I have legion as my tech expert And garrus in charge of the second team.
Feels weird to hear Jack and Grunt stepping up to help evacuate the Normandy crew. It feels equally weird that Zaeed “Sole Survivor” Massani is technically a *correct* choice as an escort (any loyal squadmate is, but you’d think he’s an exception).
To be fair, most of the time he loses the whole team, they're part of the team working toward the goal. In this case, it's a bunch of non-combatants, and keeping them safe IS his mission, and he's the only one combat-ready among them. One of his big tendencies may be "only survivor", but his other big thing is that he's notorious for always getting the job done. He's GOOD at his job... he's just shit at leading other soldiers. Fortunately, with the Escort mission, he's not leading soldiers. If you think of the rest of the crew not as people but as Cargo to be escorted back to the Normandy, it's easier to see why he doesn't screw it up.
@@Blazieth I picked Zaeed the first time I got to this section because I trusted him, and he didn't disappoint. I don't think I knew at the time that it could have been anyone who was loyal.
If *Imagi Studios* made an animated KotOR 2 quadrilogy (actually a trilogy, but with the 3rd title separated into two parts), the Exile would be a male Gray Jedi by the name of Milo Surik (based off of Meetra Surik, who was a fucking flanderization of the Exile, due to dying at the hands of Scourge), with more uniqueness (through becoming a giant monster with hyper interesting abilities by the energies of Malachor V), and would fight the Jedi Masters (save Lonna Vash, who allied herself with Milo Surik and Kreia, who tricked Surik's crew into believing that she betrayed them, and that Surik died, which wasn't true. The Disciple was traveling with Surik, and he was with Kreia during the Council meeting. The Council tried to cut Surik off from the Force, but he was far too strong, so they were left with no choice but to kill him, ergo condemning the galaxy to death at the hands of Darth Nihilus, Who Was Most Displeased. Kreia saw this, and she stepped in (after Lonna Vash fled the battle) to save Surik. When Kreia stormed into the meeting/execution scene, she said *It Is Because You Had No Choice.* to Surik, before killing Vrook Lamar and his two slaves. She never intended to kill them, only incapacitate them.
For those that are True Rare John Commander Shepard big Admirers that care for his reputation have John (or whatever you called your male Shepard first name) one have him Romance Tali one of the COOLEST romance options, She has got A BOOBY GREAT TRAP, Sweet Hips, a Tight Ass 🍑. But anyway part Two don't help Liara on Shadow Broker DLC mission, after giving either gender Shepard to Cerberus instead of the Alliance or for A Salarian Think Tank Group that have would fixed the Commander she caused a small political storm, thankfully it's a miracle we prove Shepard's innocence saying it's an Alliance Black Ops mission they just work for the Commander not Cerberus John Harper the Illusive Man T.I.M. is not the boss he is only an temporarily Informant resource + get the Specter rank to return, so it's an official Alliance + Specter Jurisdiction Operation, but any Liara she don't deserve The Normandy Advance Delta Elite Squad's help not even help hack the terminals she's on House Arrest can't even come to the ship for a drink, if her drell friend dies so be it she probably deserves it. Three Final Plan you're gonna want to get the Worst Companions Jack, Jacob, Miranda killed, Jack Romanced or not in M.E.3 She always punches either Gender Shepard there's no excuse for that at all come with her being a Psychopathic Sociopathic Psychotic Biotic Slut ass Most Wanted Criminal Bitch don't upgrade heavy ship armor she dies first. Don't do Jacob nor Miranda's Loyalty mission, assign unloyal Jacob to Ventilation's job he dies second. Take Unloyal Bitch Miranda to the Prototype Reaper human hybrid giant Cyborg, after that Cyborg falls. John Commander Shepard starts setting the timer on the station power core to explode getting all Collector Aliens Killed. But John Harper the Illusive Man T.I.M suggest using time radiation to get the Collectors Killed leaving the tech in the Base Starion intact leaving them for Cerberus to use against the Reapers but also use against other Species allies. We'll be like No, you're not using that tech to kill any other species including Girlfriend's Species. T.I.M. says I didn't discard you because I knew your value. Don't be so quick to discard this facility. Think of the potential. We'll say I missed the part where that's my problem, since the Alliance can't have the Collector station base Cerberus won't have the Collectors station base tech. Shepard will be like: We'll fight and win without it. I won't let fear compromise who I am. He'll be like Miranda -- do not let Shepard destroy the base! She says Or what? you'll replace me next? I gave you an order. I noticed. Consider this my resignation. T.I.M says Shepard. Think about what's at stake. About everything Cerberus has done for you. You-- then Miranda gets the Holographic deactivated. Places the timing bomb on the Collector's base power core. But already know even that does not at all redeem Miranda all the Evil Unforgetful UNFORGIVIBLE SINFUL CRIMES she's, that hoe ass BITCH Still NEEDS TO DIE. As Well like to say BROS BEFORE HOES. Then they fight to get the New Giant Human Hybrid Prototype Reaper and when destroyed, the Platforms falls, they fall to the ground, debris fall on Miranda painfully killing her. How ironic it was Miranda standing above while Shepard was laying down in a life support Coma in so much pain while she helped Jacob Wilson save his life, but now it was Shepard standing above Miranda hoe ass Bitch while Miranda lays down in so much pain closely dying this time not saving her, but know this their positions shall never again be reversed. Operation BROS Before HOES Finished. He removes the debris above her, but is too late then Miranda BITCH DIES. Remaining Delta Elite Squad Great Survirors escape back on to Normandy Version Mark 2 Then Entire Obsolete Design Stupid ass Alien Collector's base gets Destroyed by getting burned inside + getting Blown Up 💥. Then when talking to T.I.M. on Normandy Version Mark 2 for the last time we'll be like WE FREAKING WON💫 FOOLISH OBSOLETE Alien Collector's BASE DESTROYED. YOU'RE LOSING 📉 BITCH 🖕🖕. Tell Jeff to break up the communication WOAAAAAAAAAH 🎆
After all the lines of Garrus not trusting his ability to command after his team got killed, and he does a badass head nod when chosen to lead. I tear up every time I see it.
_"Someone who commands loyalty through experience,"_ she advised. And THAT is why Zaeed was a poor choice. His entire origin story is about him failing to command the loyalty of the Blue Suns! Zaeed's a lone wolf, not a leader.
All of his stories start with "So me and the boys go on this mission..." and end with "...Only I survived." Anyone who picked Zaeed deserved to lose a squadmate.
