tbf he is a jhin main, so its just 4+1 instead of 5

Vayne? The champ that has a free dash every few seconds to reposition and get invis with ult? Not to mention you melt tanks, meaning you don't have to kite as much since they die so fast and you have e to peel for yourself which is point and click. She's just not as good in lane bc she doesn't get to push, that's all. Almost no adc is mechanically difficult since it's all point and click on range, and with attack move you don't even have to be precise. Zeri is probably one of the only adc's actually takes skill since you can't just spam attack move click to kite. Similar to Draven, Ezreal and Kalista.

@@sommertraum7473 indeed but the video is focused on mechanically skills needed to compile the champ which vayne need none I know her range and her push sucks but that the only weakness she have to make up for a champ that the only stats it needs to have to function is attack speed , she's so easy to play if you know your wave and got the micro needed and every adc in the game besides zeri and ashe need you to kite so yeah thats a must for every ranged champ

​@Mustafa-vh5zs Ah, sorry I misread and thought you said Vayne was hard. I agree she's easy. But I still think Zeri is easily top 5 because her kiting requires to hit skillshots while most ADC just use auto attacks which don't have to be as precise. So I disagree her Q makes kiting easier because it's not even that high range like Ezreal Q. I think its 825 which is high, but it can also be bodyblocked and even dodged completely with enough movement speed or mobility.

@@sommertraum7473 idk about zeri q being a skillshot you can't miss it legit it have the same target speed as twitch R which you can also side step if you have like some REALLY high ms , yet i think that auto attack is hardest mechanic here like kiting is really really hard and its the only thing that make the adc role so hard and annoying to play for the most of players one small missclick and you will find your champ walking towards the enemy garen or smthin so i find kiting with abilities (ezreal , yasou , yone , zeri and maybe even some ashe) more easier and simpler to kite with Aas and yes it can be body or minion blocked so as graves yet he still functions well and they both have shit tons amount of damage and as i mentioned zeri now is just so bad to play because of the proplay problem she is completely a ghost of her former self so its just hard she deals no damage but that doesn't make her hard to play mechanically at all. she's just like yuumi top is yummi weak ? yes is it hard to play as a champ ? no and yet this is still my opinion after all and i understand if you have another perspective

@@Mustafa-Mohammed22 But telling that right-clicking is hard is just bullshit. You can't even missclick if you use attack move click or attack move, you legit wouldn't even have to move your mouse to kite someone walking up to you. That's just bullshit I'm sorry. Maybe you don't know about the settings, but with attack move your champ will auto the target closest to your mouse within your attack range, meaning if you press right-click to walk away and then attack move click your champ will auto anything close to you without the possibility of accidentally clicking towards the enemy. And just imagine yourself fighting a Zed or Yasuo or Kata. You'll really tell me it's harder with Twitch to just spam right-click and attack move to hit them automatically than having to hit all your Zeri Q's?

Delusional sivir main found

All sivir does if farm and then just W and autoattack the tank in the late game

@@veenox8998 can’t hear you i’m busy vaccuum cleaning waves and jungle with 4 autos

Still easy kit

@@Toshiboyai simple kit doesnt mean a champion is essy to play.

​@@Toshiboyai​ yeah but since easy kits are easy to understand they can be easily countered by atleast any knowledgeable players. That's what makes up the difficulty. Which is why there's a concept called Skill Ceiling which means playing a champion with high skill and proficiency in order to reach their maximum capabilities. It's not about how easy the kit it's how you play with it while minimizing it's weaknesses.

Ashe isn't hard at all. No skillshots + high range + cc + engage. Nothing requires more skill than your average adc.

@@sommertraum7473 literally the core of her gameplay is a skillshot. Shes not mechanically hard to play, but shes hard to make work, same as master yi, because if you are not agains iron players, they will dive her and she has 0 ways of defending herself. No dashes, her R lasts less than a second if fired at point blank range, and she needs to auto 4 times before starting to really dpsing, so its even hard to fight back. Theres a reason why people play her more as a support than as adc, because as the support you dont get targeted as much. If a assassin wants ashe dead, shes dead. Youll be playing gray screen simulator vs a rengar or a zed.

Like seriously, if Aphelios is hard, it's definitelt not because of his spells. Getting the right weapon combo is rather easy as well. It's not that easy to mess up, and even then it's easy to fix. His difficult part might be his low atack speed and no panic button like most other adc. And saying that Ezreal is easy is just xD. He's kinda on par with Draven, where you play 500 games and you land those skillshots as naturally as breathing. Otherwise some Kog'maw is gonna easily outperform you.

I disagree, her gameplan can be summarized to: "Yeah skill diff them in lane with range, if you don't get the tower in 14mins might as well go afk"

​@@fabioviti7384? You still have insane range and burst. If the enemy ADC walks up and you hit e you can still chunk at least a third of their hp even from behind. Every adc sucks from behind, doesn't make Caitlyn hard. Especially since at 5 items you just 2-3 tap everything that isn't a tank if you play ok.

​@@fabioviti7384Not to mention you don't skill diff them in lane, you champ diff them kinda like Draven. She's still one of the harder adc's but far from the hardest.

@@sommertraum7473 i think that She's One of the hardest to play at the highest level.

@@fabioviti7384 Even then there are many more difficult adc like Draven, Kalista, Zeri, Aphelios, Xayah and Ezreal. Now that the old Cait combo's are removed she just isn't that difficult anymore. I'd say with old Combos it was like a 8/10 now she's more of a 6/10.

now pull a 3 weapon

@@notci8813 what like the standard use your last shot of blue to pull purple and root them

​​@@zucchini2339that's not correct

@@moso3647 glad you added to the discussion

@@zucchini2339 okay, I'll explain. A 3 weapon combo is not something easy to pull off in a real game, yes they can be learned but using them in a match requieres practice and patience, (and coordination with teammates). the 3 weapon combo is using 3 guns, i.e. using blue into purple Q is not a 3 weapon combo, an actual weapon combo would be red Q into purple Q into green Q, which is used at level 2 or 3. Another important aspect of this combo is the setup, the setup is using the combo at the right time (aka patience) and ensuring that using the 3 weapons doesn't mess your gun rotation (which can be done with the combo you said as having blue before purple is a more "conditional" rotation. Now, I know many of this words can come to you as weird, but I'll be happy to clarify and have a good discussion.

I mean in a basic level both are easy becoming a really good Aphelios is harder than Yasuo, like you literally need to know all the possibilities that you champ would have in every moment of the game that are constantly changing for the use of the 5 weapons and the combination that each have, this makes that basically you have to approach each fight in a different way using the same champ

in terms of skill floor though ezreal is quite easy. Skill ceiling wise he is by far the hardest I agree, but he specified skill floor at the beginning

She's easy when you get used to her. But playing her for the first time is challenging. Ziggs on the other hand is straightforward Hit all skill shots=Damage

Playing it for the first time is weird af, also she has so many builds that it gets confusing. Now I'm used to her but I remember hating it the first times xD

Yeah I think the same Ezreal and xayah are much more easier Both of them have an ability that can save you (I played a loooong time ezreal and aphelios and I can say easily that ezreal is more braindead that aphelios)

@@shinchan9730 oh didin't think someyone would agree (noyone actually agrees with me) yea so like thank you your the same as me i guess

@@erazemmedved6508 yeah, there arnt so many aphelios players, much less mains, so yeah, im just like you, I never met another aphelios main

​@@shinchan9730Aphelios is hard to learn, but easy to master since most of your dmg is point and click, while Ezreal can easily be outplayed by better players, even if he has more range and mobility, his dmg isn't as guaranteed.

​@@shinchan9730Same with Xayah since a lot of good players just flash or use mobility to dodge your feathers in all ins you have to predict them with your own flash which is really difficult in high elo. Aphelios isn't easy for sure, but he's definitely far from the most difficult adc.

It does, I do the same