How new is the saw? I'm just curious. My elevation is 4,500 ft, i did this to a new ms250. Surprisingly, it didn't need any adjustment to the carburetor. But that doesn't mean yours won't. There's lots of videos on how to adjust your carburetor. It's a balancing act between your hi jet / low jet and idle screw.
Yes, and yes. Sorry, I haven't made a follow-up video with all the details on how to do it . It's pretty easy. actually, I did, and then my phone committed suicide and I lost 5 videos worth of footage
@adumboone I'm not sure what it's called. I don't have anything fancy, just a couple of dremels. The bit I use for that is a round cutting. Stone about half the size of a normal size marble it works really well for that type of stuff
A little bit of cheating there.... Your first two slabs were about an inch thick. The last two were, probably not even half-of-an-inch thick. That would make a difference on the pulling and tearing of the wood fibers on the outside of the cut.
Yes thanks for this. I am did a mod on my muffler too. To open it, I ground a small amount off of one corner only, right on the outside edge, then I used an old chisel to pry the top lamination up of the three there. I pried up the foldover, then cut it in the middle with side cutters, then hold the muffler in a vice so I could heat it up with propane till nearly cherry red and used a small flat screw driver to bend up a section of the foldover at a time, moving down each side. I did 3 sides and was then able to slide/lift that top off the muffler, and reveal the inner baffle. In my case I drill a lot of large holes in it. Reassembly was easy, just slide the top back in, fold back the foldover to secure it. Yes I enjoy having more power, and I know it will take the heat away from the exhaust side cylinder much better, decreasing the chance of seizing. It uses more fuel too of course, as it runs faster and a larger amount of the induction gases (fuel air) bypass straight out the exhaust ( which means it is better at having cleaner combustion gases, and a bigger intake of air each stroke. Its not a tuned exhaust, just free flowing.
Horrible comparison! Idt ive personally seen a 200 or 201 cuts so poorly in my entire life! Its spitting out powder! 194 is spitting chips! I expected it to be close. But definitely not beating it by that much! I hate how people who dont know what they are doing. Try comparing something and put out horrible videos like this. But anyone thats ever used a 200t or 201, knows that they do not cut that slow! Without operator error!
Since I am not a parfessional arborist, I will keep my MS 250 stock as it cuts extremely well for what it is, and I certainly DO NOT want to omit the spark arrestor screen !!!! STUPID !!!!!!
Lets not talk about re tuning the carb PROPERLY, fuel usage, noise, and the fact that this will reduce power if you have a stratospherically scavenging engine. But hey.
In all fairness to the 250, the chain had alread made 3 passes on the 261. I'd love to see this repeated with a new bar and chain on each saw. I have several "pro" saws (Husqvarna 281xp, Stihl MS 460, Echo CS620p) yet my little MS250 is my go to 95% of the time. Funny thing is, i hated it for the first couple of years i had it.
I can't say anything about the muffler mod. But I will say the using a carb from a ms250 is bullshit there's no way to mod that to work. PS I've been a Stihl mechanic for 7+ years.
Ooh, I highly recommend the echo 2511 over the 201. Do a muffler mod, and you're good. The 2511 isn't as powerful, of course, but comparable and so much lighter and easier to use well worth it. I promise!
Get whatever makes you happy bud! If you aren't climbing trees regularly or at all. Weights no big deal, even if u do climb. 201 is still a great saw. I stand behind them all day! I was a Line Clearance Arborist for 10yrs. We used echoes before in I didn't care for them. Stihl is extremely reliable and stands up to abuse much better then echo or Husqvarna. If you do want a Lil bit lighter and one with great power maybe the same as or more than the 201 for less money. Get the Husqvarna 540 xp mark III! I don't have a lot of experience with it as a daily. But I do with stihl and echo. And I can say for the money echo is good. But as far as a saw that'll hold up to the test of time. STIHL all day. Also this was a horrible comparison video seems how he "dulled I mean sharpened" the chain on the 201. It's throwing powder instead of chips! I could tell by the speed difference as well. That was a huge difference. Something that wouldn't happen from the lil mods he made. I'd expect it to be close to the same since the 201 is stock. But to have 4 second difference? No way! Horrible comparison imo.
My little 250 is still stock,but the warranty will be out in just a couple months. Im happy enough with the way it cuts with a chisel chain,but i will at least do a muffler modd and maybe a west coast saw bucking spike.
Nice... I have the same saw. Giving me a bit of grief at the moment.. Just bought a new 572 xp today. Sumbitch sure rips thru the wood. Going to get my 250 tuned right for a back up saw, and give me something to play with.. 😊
soon, I'm going to upload a video showing a couple of easy things you can do to the MS250 that really brings out the power. And NO, from all my experience. The modifications do not decrease the life of the engine! I've had a lot of people telling me that.LOL.
If you increased the saws power to the blade from 75% to 90% how is it possible an increase of 15% allowed you to cut almost rwice as fast? Im with the guy whos calling you out on sharpening the chain between tests. Chips are definitely bigger in the last test. Just busting your balls good modification. Make sure if you do this to readjust your carburetor.
Another guy asked me something similar. If you increase power, but the RPM of the chain stays the same. How does it cut in a faster? The answer is that you can push harder. Putter More pressure on the saw/wood, making it eat more without bugging down. Also, before doing the test, I sharpened the chain, I like to take the rakers down a little bit overstock. Which is going to make it bite more wood. A lot of people think that I might have sharpened it in between runs. The truth is, absolutely not! Obviously that would completely Ruin, the entire test. I know you don't know me, but I am an honorable man. And I swear on the lives of my children. I did not sharpen the chain between comparisons. Also I did have to adjust the cooperator I forgot to mention that in the video. Thank you for your comment. I really appreciate the feedback.
Gew seconds per cut over hundreds and hundreds of cuts in a day of work and your right, u might make it to lunch. Obviously you have never slent 10/12 hour days running a chainsaw non stop
Im just here to wonder how the heck you can start that thing with one pull and no decompression. I have a 251 and the compression jerks my shoulder loose. Had to buy an echo with decompression switch, as my shoulder cant take it any more.
Hey man! Just got a 194t and started to grind out the baffle. How much would you recommend removing? I opened up the existing holes a bit and don't really see much of a difference. Anything will help! Thanks.
Hey sorry it's taking me so long to get back to you. Don't do anything yet. I've got a new video that I need to get Uploaded. It shows how to do the muffin mud the easiest way.
@David Kaminski About a month ago I dropped my phone and it totally took a s***. I lost all my data except what was on the SIM card. I had 3 videos worth of content on there kind of pissed
@David Kaminski Yeah, trying to recover my data was the 1st thing I did, but gotten nowhere, the phone is completely shut down. I've been trying to go through my phone insurance to use a data recovery specialist that they use. I still have the phone & i'm way over the time limit that I was supposed to send the phone back after they sent me a new one. Do you have any suggestions?
yap . about 1/4 turn. in or out Hi jet screw ? my saw runs hot , so i keep the rpm low and Leen on the saw. 🦊 I just did a similar mode to the same saw MS250 . it starts and runs good now.
I'm interested in the mods and how you did them. Did the carb require modification to fit? Wouldn't a carb from a bigger saw dump more fuel, and the 150 carb dump less, or be more lean? (My bad, did you say ms150 or ms250?) One comment though, why bother spending the time on making sure the wood is consistent for your cuts, but didn't take the time to swap bars and chains and drum/whatever to make sure your saws are also consistent with one another. Without using same bar and chain on both saws, your saws vary by way more than just the engine.
Jacob, thank you for your comment. I just uploaded a video showing how to do the Muffler mod. And a few other things. Dude, you're so right! It was pointless to use wood that would cut consistently but not use the same bar and chain. I'll make a short video doing that. hopefully, I can have it up today.
@@arboristlife3494 I also just wanted to point out that using a board does not create consistency. A board is simply a log with the edges plained off. It still has different growth patterns and knots. Grab yourself some plywood, OSB, particle board, anything that is man made of equal consistency throughout. Then you can screw/nail them together and cut through those. Also using the same bar and chain with a fresh sharpen each time. For the absolute best results while eliminating as much variance as possible, this would be ideal. Also amazon has RPM meters for 20$ or less. Some wrap around the spark plug, some go off of sound, and then there are laser ones that you can point at the clutch drum etc.. The laser ones are the most accurate. However the sound ones are nice because you can not only check RPM when not under load but also while under load (cutting). Even if the RPM gauge is slightly off it's okay because you are measuring the difference between two items NOT what their exact RPM values are.
