Hi Joseph ....don't know if you can answer my question but i try ....have a VH2 very good amp but it seems to my ears channel 2 very different to VH4 channel 3 ....so undefined , no clarity ...your opinion ??? and what can i change to increase the articulation ....preamp tube change V1 valve with 5751 or 7025 tad ???thanks and keep on posting , very interesting ...cheers from France
Vh4 is the same it's beefy and has a great feel but no clarity or much edge i sold it fast. Get an engl much better amps the whole range anything they have beats a vh4
I have to agree with Joseph, I currently own a 2018 VH4 that was formerly owned by a big metal/rock producer and even signed by Peter Diezel himself for that producer. It’s been a studio amp its whole life and maintained very well I’ve come to the conclusion that it really depends on the style of music you’re going for. If you need tight, percussive tone then look elsewhere, but if you like heavy loose chugging then it does well but it shines best when it compliments a bright amp like a Marshall or 5150 A good idea of a pure Diezel (Vh4/Herbert) metal mix would be Sikth’s “Death of a Dead Day” album And you can compare that to a tighter 5150 tone to Periphery’s latest album “Periphery V: Djent is not a Genre” where the main tone is Misha’s Peavey Invective aka a tweaked 5150 Block circuit
For that one right crunching tone the engl se beats the herbert I have one here. But the herb 3 wasn't far behind and the clean and channel 2 were better on the herb but balls out nothing beats an engl
I’d imagine the biggest difference in components are the transformers. Many don’t consider how much of a difference the transformer makes to your sound in the end, but it’s significant.
Damn it why is that Hagan so disgustingly heavy. This clip has me scouring the internet trying to find one on the used market, no luck so far. Thanks for the demo.
@@josephbutler148 that's saying a lot, because these tones are nasty! I haven't heard many thorough demos of the Hagen but I'm really surprised to hear it can do classic tones well, honestly.
Hey, I saw this video and your comparison with the SLO. Also saw you mentioned a Diezel in another comment. What would would compare the vintage and modern models to? I know the Leviathan is their metal amp, but I’m curious about what the modern channel can do. It sounds thick in the mids. Dream amp is something that has a great clean, solid crunch, and sorta Uberschall with more upper midrange for a lead or high gain channel.
The cleans are amazing the crunch is good not marshall good but better than the evh crunch. The dirty is closer to the xtc than the uberschall it's definitely dark as in the mids sit low but it's not that woody extreme low darkness like bogner it's more hifi like diezel and it's got a lot of gain more than the xtc or uberschall but it stays clear and kinda smooth and warm not a lot of grind or anything to add layers of mush. If u like clarity u will love it. If u like aggressive teeth to the tone might be better off with an orange, modded Marshall, engl or evh etc
@@josephbutler148 that’s super helpful! Thanks for the reply. I like the smooth feel for leads but I do like having a bit of teeth for riffing out as well. These sound killer either way.
I love my stealth, only thing I feel can give it a beat down is my Fryette. My Mesa tremoverb can't touch it, neither can my Marshall JVM, sold that already LOL. Stealth is one bad a$$ amp. Truly.
You cable management is part of the problem… that wad of cables you have on the middle can’t be helping things. To me it sounds like your input jack on your guitar or main cable is pooched.. if all the pedals have the same sort of reaction then I would look further. Just my opinion and maybe you have tried you guitar cable and jack before blaming the pedals I don’t know . Cheers😎
Thanks for the test. Hard to tell because of the recording, but the RedSeven seems to have a by more character and fuellness, although a bit less sharpness. What is your opinion as you were in the room ?
Channel 1 was much better on redseven channel 2 on par but xtc does better old school stuff on channel 2 redsevenchannel 2 is a little more modern as well as channel 3... Channel 3 is better on redseven it's a lot tighter yes a little smoother but its still warmer, clearer and thicker and more modern and aggressive. it moves so much air more than a diezel herbert and much easier to dial in. Sounds great on a lot of settings. Different enough to have both but still sounds very similar and same features...
@@josephbutler148 Thanks for your insights. I am looking for an amp for leads and solos. It looks like this one or its 50w brother might be good candidates...
They’re mostly identical. There’ll be more of a difference between two randomly selected US-built models than the difference between a randomly selected US-built model and a Chinese-built model. Great high gain amps on the whole when it comes to price and reliability.
I appreciate this effort. It's difficult to get access to Diezel amps and in particular the Hagen (as you've said). Also the differences are hard to discern as youtube compresses sound. Which one did you end up preferring? I've read that Diezel amps stiff in feel? Does the EVH feel stiff? I recently purchased a BE100D and I love the way that amp feels under the fingers - it has a natural feeling compression (squishy) and hence it's easy to play, not stiff at all. To off-set the high gain rock amp purchase, I'm after a modern sounding amp for death-metal and I was considering a Hagen, EVH Stealth or KSR Gemini 100 (if for nothing else than all the tone shaping options). Cheers Edit: The Hagen sounds very loose in the lows when compared to the EVH.
I also have a ksr juno and an orthos (pretty much gemini with no midi) i would go juno if u go ksr. The stealth sounds good tight focussed and crushing straight off the bat however after spending some time with the hagen I have got it to sounds not the same but as good just different. The hagen is looser feeling like the Einstein and Herbert. the dmoll and vh4 / vh2 are the stiff ones. If u like stiff get dmoll otherwise get hagen. If u like tight focussed and crushing get the stealth.
@@josephbutler148 Thanks for the detailed response. I think the stealth is more my flavour. How does the Juno differ to the Orthos? Are the difference nuanced or significant? Cheers.
i had the same problem with the zuul, just remove the power connector and put it back in. does it run on battery? change the battery. this removed the weird behaviour you showed here for me.
I have the G8, love the pedal, but when I was researching the pedals apparently the 2 pedals use the same chip for processing. Just found it odd is all.
@@josephbutler148 I also got the same and I think the pedal is definitely a faulty one. what's the use of having a gate knob then if it already cuts noise off at 0
Great demo man, what’s the top two jacks on the endless blockade? Since they are not labeled I can’t find that info anywhere.. much appreciated Thanks!
Been too long sold it ages ago cant remember other than they weren't labelled and there was no manual and the jerk builder is like if connect them wrong u void any warranty lol well label them u a hole lol. Get the klirrton schnauze or the revv g8 much better gates
The top two are input output, the bottom two are send and return. Or you can use the send as a key input. Hope that helps. Yeah, idk why they're not labeled it's fucking stupid.
@@rattlehead001 yeah that’s why i was asking him if it was a head or combo. I’ve never seen the head that low unless it’s a mini head. Those mini heads look good too though.
If they have the same valves and speakers, given they use the same schematics, they will always sound the same. The chinese one MIGHT end up being prone to repairings, maybe due to cheaper components, but it's not something you can compare side to side, like a chinese mass produced guitar vs a USA one.
@@LautaroGalanCid eso lo decis vos o realmente los componentes son otros? Que va a tener mas reparaciones? Estoy buscando esa info para saber cual comprar y no veo que nadie diga eso... por eso te pregunto.
@@NGS2410 si hno, los componentes de los chinos son mas baratos, y la mano de obra es otra, por eso sale menos. Igual quedate tranquilo, yo tengo el Chino hace años y anda joya. Siempre que lo cuides, no va a pasar a mayores.
I have there is no difference between the 5150 ii and the usa 6505+ however their was a difference in the Chinese 6505+ vs the 5150 ii / usa 6505+ which u can find here m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AZkQv8gunrs.html
Both sound great. I had two USA versions and they both sounded a tad different in an A/B demo. So many variables that even two identical amps can sound different.
