@@user-xp6dt6ck2p I gather it can be really bad, but I never did enough to have severe withdrawals. I did later abuse phenibut though and I think that coupled with years of casual ghb use fucked me up for a good year or so.
@@yungmentalproblems it's a shame that banning stuff like 5MAPB will push people towards much harder stuff like MDMA. I think we need to slowly work towards a model of selective legalisation, otherwise the black market will just get worse and worse.
Phenibut is nice in low doses . The big warning on the net is don't use it more than once a week. So far it seems to work without having withdrawal or compulsion to redose. The tolerance is insane
Honestly though, I think anything with such high abuse/addiction potential is better avoided, in case things spiral out of control. For example, you're pretty unlikely to end up in a crazy situation in over your head with shrooms, but with something like coke or phenibut it can easily happen, even if some people manage to avoid it.
Psychedelics changed me from a complete atheist to someone who believes in god or a positive higher power. A better power , I see the beauty of the Earth & the way we are all interconnected as the evidence of it. Panthiesm might be the best describer of my belief since encountering psychedelics Not to say psychedelics don't open you to negative spirits & and forces, though. DMT, although mostly magical and positive in most instances, it made me see there are also negative 'demons' out there
Bro, i know what kind of existential horror and pain you went through as result of realizing oneness. I went through exactly same thing. In my case, it was oneness, in addition to that, even sinister concepts that almost drove me to the brink of insanity was radical solipsism and the idea that Life is a dream. More and more i contemplated these concepts, i couldn't find the difference between reality and dream. In a lucid dream, everything seems so real to you that you completely forget you're dreaming. You interact with people, they talk back, laugh, cry and connect, yet, upon waking up, you realize they were just your dream characters and figment of your imagination, it was just all you. This was even worse than oneness for me, it brought me an indescribable amount of profound loneliness, and soul crashing existential terror. I really felt like i understood something that was never supposed to be understood. The suffering and loneliness it caused was literally infinitely deep. On top of that, i've suffered from severe anxiety and panic attack disorder along with OCD since i was thirteen. It was true hell!! I started my spiritual journey to end my suffering a decade ago but in the end, i ended up making it infinitely worse 😢. So, know that you're not alone in this endeavor. There are many others like us who want to know the secret of Life and going through very similar experiences.
Hey dude, thanks for reaching out! Sorry to hear you're going through that. Did you watch my second video on the subject? I think I've made some headway with this stuff, and I certainly feel a lot better about it currently. I think you can too. What we think we've seen or witnessed is not necessarily real.
In general, reflux with psychedelics and more widely, "stimulants" is very common, some people take natron to combat it, some ginger, whatever works I guess.For me almost nothing works, I learned to just accept it and breath it away...
Semen retention typically made my trips better, and less negative. Had an experience one time whereby i ejaculated minutes before i dosed - long story short, it was one of the worst trips of my life. Spent three hours repeatedly telling myself that ''everything will be ok''. Disclaimer: The drug was psilocybin.
@@suffynw8094 ha. Yeah, ending a streak can be an awful experience. But I find that sometimes, continuing it is quite difficult as well. At the moment I'm really struggling to sleep. What's the longest you've done?
@@BigDome1 Longest I've done is about 24 days. My sexual energy was jumping out of my body, i find that after 14 days or so - the desire for ejaculation and sexuality in general is unfathomably strong. It gets to a point where i am literally forced to go outside or completely change my setting. The desire is strong enough to completely usurp my will.
@@suffynw8094 yeah. For me the benefits peak around day 10-14 and then it gradually becomes more difficult. But I always feel a bit depressed at the idea of going back to normal.
@suffynw8094 there's a subreddit r/POIS that has some interesting theories about how faulty genetics might mess up certain people's neurochemistry post-orgasm. Never thought about it in relation to tripping... Planning on trying DMT for the first time soon, def gonna hold-it-in for a while leading up
The anxiety/not quite decent experience is either underdose or lost the magic area in my past abuse experience . (Did it in 90s without the Internets information disperal ability we have it now) Agree mdma is something that can be abused. Love the love of my first experiences but learnt the way it would draw me back over and over again made me step away from it (Eventually). Its a beautiful molecule The emotional havoc it created (depression) in my life just was not worth it. Low dose mescaline is very similar to mdma- Maybe 180 - 200mg. Without a come down. So at times I wonder if 2cb (mescaline derivative) at very low doses might not be similar in its own way , say at +- 7mg They say you have to 'work' for the euphoria on traditional psychedelics which feels earned and much more rewarding for that reason
@@Happy_Spatula yeah, I reckon the experience can mostly be replicated elsewhere with less negative effects. But there is a kind of purity to a really good mdma experience that might be hard to ever fully replicate. Lots of drugs feel euphoric, but mdma has this serenity and sense of well being and empathy that's quite special.
@BigDome1 agree there & it'd ability to allow deep bonding with someone you already love is where it really shines. The bonding with a stranger can seem ick in retrospect once mdma wears off
Hey @BigDome1 I'm a relative new comer to 2cb. Had some in 90s and only recently have I encountered it again. I've had 20 mg which was OK, 50mg which was too much and have used 3mg as a work stimulant as one might use ritalin. I enjoyed the 50mg but it was too much. 20mg was OK but limbo land I think I'd prefer 10mg and keep it physical or 25mg and go a little deeper but not too deep. Idk. New to it
First time I took 2C-B I wasn't aware just how heavy the body load can be, decided to eat a meal shortly after the 2C-B which was definitely one of the worst ideas I've ever had. Ended up puking my guts out later on. I always fast now if I plan to take it then have a nice meal as I come down. Wonderful drug though, with a very clear head space. A little off topic but I've been binge watching your videos since I found your mephedrone ones recently which are absolutely hilarious, you're a great talker! I do wonder if what we get these days is the same as back then as I never got to try it, some people say it used to contain methylone too, but I dunno. Still love that stuff though, hard habit to break!
@@MeatyChunks Yeah, it's definitely better to eat whilst coming down, I've just rarely had the patience to wait. It's also better to eat healthy, digestible food on it but I always go for ridiculous stuff like chicken wings and waffle fries, or a sausage baguette. I think next time I'm gonna time the food a lot better, maybe just have a light snack midway through. Your username seems oddly appropriate here btw. Re: mephedrone, I have no idea. I considered getting some recently but decided it would just be too much for me, it's WAY too nice. But I've heard that it's quite good these days. Are you saying the lab made stuff from when it was legal had methylone in? That's interesting. I has methylone by itself a couple of times and found it quite nicely mild in comparison, but also a bit frustrating at times. One time I read a bluelight post about a guy who used to inject it, and it was MENTAL. He said he used to do it every thirty mins and it was the most psychotically addictive thing ever and ruined his life. I wish I could find the post again cause it was genuinely shocking to read. Thanks for watching and for the kind words btw! 🙏
@@Happy_Spatula Oh! The cakes 😂 yeah, my girlfriend suggested mentioning it in a Google review but I felt that was way too much. The past couple of weeks we've instead been buying whole cakes from the supermarket and giving ourselves huge slices instead
Hey dome, im starting to like youre videos a lot. Im going step by step with them. Im definitely learning things from you. The way you communicate is fantastic. By the way , did you pass the driving test??
Thanks dude! I really appreciate the kind words. Still not passed, no 😅 I've taken a few months off for the summer, and I'm starting again in a week or two in a much easier city with a much better school. I've also ordered one of those sim driving wheels so I'm gonna get a lot of practice in at home. Should hopefully pass it by the end of the year.
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Excellent story telling skills mate. Your stories from Bristol never get old. I enjoy listening to them every time. Sometimes I think it’s best to starve than to go to bed feeling bloated. But It’s probably easier for me to say because whenever I eat, I get depressed and fall asleep. So I really try not to. Unless it’s liquid bread. Cheers mate. Thanks for sharing 😊
Thanks man, and thanks for watching as always. I get knackered when I eat too, although a thing that's really helped me recently is vinegar before meals. A tablespoon of apple cider vinegar mixed in a bit of water and then I rinse it out of my mouth (to avoid teeth enamel damage)
@@russellbishop3873 I don't think it's anywhere near the same scale though, there's no evidence to suggest that it even comes close to MDMA in that regard.
I understand what you mean about using too much for a period & the way it can create depression over weeks. At the same time it did make my relationship with my wife better. Describing the comedowns is where I'd say my ptsd is at. As far I'm concerned I don't think I'm ever taking it again despite knowing it does have positives. Recently took low dose 2cb which was pleasant and didn't have (noticeable) negative after effects
@@Happy_Spatula yeah, after doing it again twice, I'm not sure I'll ever take it again either. In my subjective experience, 5-MAPB is way less neurotoxic, and the comedowns are infinitely easier. Unfortunately it's going to be banned soon.
My friend once killed a hedgehog with a fist, because someone offered him a "bullet" (how it was called in Ukrainian) of amphetamine to do it. He was a crazy guy. The other one i knew a little, he just died sleeping.
It’s like the ultimate gaslighting to make one believe that one is stoopid for believing one’s own reality and therefore should be punished for it. Yet, when one points out their (goV) stooopidity, they don’t care. They will label one as a radicule. But I think ppl are wising up to the game. But theLegCMedia will call it something else.
@@BigDome1 I can understand why they would want restrictions placed on speech. But it’s not for the reasons that they give. If they were honest about it they could start with an apology for the double U, em Dees and the mess in the Me for starters.
@@wilfred8724 we've had these restrictions on speech for years, and to me it's always been a source of shame and discomfort, but the way they're being applied now is just objectively bonkers in a way that I think is concerning even to Labour voters
Love that quote. You cannot possess happiness, it flows through you! That's such an incredibly profound statement. Hold on to that one ;) At least you can possess the statement.
Truly insightful though isn't it. This is love, love is duality. Incredible to work through this, and this is what psychedelics help with. Ideally with a good guide.
This posting is spot on . Like most caught on way too late in life as we only have the now we cannot go back and approach our roads in life with allot more hast.
yep sitting there and doing nothing can be very helpful sometimes you get caught up with the game of life that you think you need to do more and more stuff. you dont take a break
Love your channel and i can relate to allot of what you discuss in your videos. I have been taking phenibut everyday. I began this habit around a year ago, took a month break when i experienced horrible withdrawal but got through it. Started taking it again 9 months ago and have been taking it everyday since. I got into crazy dosages/redosing etc but lately I've settled for 5.5 grams once a day with no discomfort. I don't want to take it forever. I have overcome other addictions, heroin some years ago. And have stepped away from street drugs. One thing I find so difficult about this substance is how it still allows me to function, while hardly raising any eyebrows. In fact my ability to function is reliant upon it. It only becomes suspect once it starts leaving my system.
Thanks dude! I really, really recommend getting off that stuff. I think it's absolutely imperative that you do so. Whether it's now or in a year from now, it will become harder and harder to maintain this habit. 5.5 grams a day is a LOT over the long term. I know that when you're in the midst of it, it can be really difficult to think about being off it, because it kind of takes over your body, and the thought of not being on it just seems cold and depressing. But the thing is, once you're off it, it's actually the thought of being back on it that's depressing! Being free from the grip of substances like that is truly an amazing feeling. You just have to take that leap of faith and trust that it's the right thing to do, because it honestly is. The long-term effects of it can be pretty severe, and the longer you use it for the longer it will take to recover. If you're going to get off it (which again, you definitely should), you have to make sure you taper though. There's more information about that online, but it's pretty essential. A slow, gradual taper with lots of other precautions. You'll have to come off it sooner or later, so the sooner you start the taper the better.
I appreciate your reply. I have began my taper today. Have to get off of it sooner or later. Many thanks to you for your channel, I vibe with your content allot.
@@MrOrgongorgo amazing man! Great stuff 👍 let me know how it goes. The discomfort is temporary but the awesome feeling of success and clear headedness is permanent. Stay strong 💪
As a 25 year old who is still very impatient, this is what I needed to hear today. I'm so caught up living in the future, never in the present moment. Cheers for these types of uploads man. I have implemented some of the advice you give in my life, it's genuinely made me a happier and healthier person.
That same joy of separation you mention, about the even maybe cosmic importance of individuality was first introduced to western philosophy by Johann Gottfried Herder, in his very influential but now forgotten book "God: Some conversations"; maybe it interests you.
Tbh I agree with the resistance hypothesis that you posited in the last part of the video; our minds are finite by nature, and can only attempt to grasp the infinite (or God, as it may be) by bringing it down to our level, because that's how our minds are made to understand things, by delimiting them, by saying "no, this thing is not this other thing because it has different properties, a different form, etc." That's what empiricism is about, what science is about, but these objects cannot be fully understood by our mind, because we are not like them and cannot be like them, even though we carry bits of the infinite within us, being part of this world and everything else. Well, even if so, the resistance hypothesis wouldn't even make much sense, would it? Maybe we're just trying to piece something that is inherently unable to be pieced by us, because that's our nature, and that's okay; we can't change that. Nevertheless, I still find these experiences... maybe useful, in a sense, but it kinda goes beyond usefulness; it's about keeping us humble, and reminding us that we are as much a part of this Universe, that we are as much a cutout of the infinite essence of God as everything else. Sorry, this was one of my recent topics of interest as well; I'm finishing up my postgrad in history of philosophy
Yeah, it does feel like something that we fight. A bit like a trip in itself: often our natural inclination is to fight it, which makes it so much harder. And yeah I like the idea that it's something that keeps us humble. And as you say, "beyond usefulness", it's more like it's just something there for us to see but not really be involved with. Something to remind us that we are human and limited by that. But some people seem to take it the wrong way, and take it to mean that they are all powerful.
@@Jariikkk thanks dude! Yeah, I absolutely will make more videos about those things soon, particularly fitness I think. Ideally I'd like them to be more put together, with footage filmed outside etc
